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Hello again, in the words of the pub landlord “It’s been a while”, however, I’m back. This time I am on the warpath! “What about?! I hear you ask, well, let me tell you. I am getting a bit sick of people emailing me and asking how they can tell if they are being watched by the DWP? The answer is simple, if you’re worried that you are under observation, then there must be a reason for it! i.e. you must have something to hide!!!!! As a person with a “real” disability I have no fear of the grey men with cameras, bring it on I say, it would make a great home movie when I get to my tribunal and show these bastards up for the fools they are.
Somebody's watching you
See, there I go again. I must say I despise the DWP and anyone who is employed by them. I know you will accuse me of tarring them with the same brush! but isn’t that what they are doing with us? Are the DWP (or are they not) making the assumption that all disability claimants are potential liars? Come on, yes or no? I think the answer is obvious so I am willing to stick my neck out and say quite categorically that all employees of the DWP are narcissistic, sociopathic twats who have a serious god complex. What do you think?
God complex
Anyway, back to my original point. To all you spongers out there who are worried that their scams will be discovered and thus their beer money stopped I say I hope they do catch you and put you in prison where you rightfully belong. To those of you who are worried but have a genuine disability I say don’t worry, you have nothing to hide and will likely as not be alright. Oh and by the way, if you are a scrounger and are on the lookout for some sympathetic support for your alleged case, don’t come looking for it here, you wont find it.
Bye bye beer money
Update: A reader brought a very important point to my attention today. The reader disagreed with the above statement and has quite rightly pointed out that there are disabled people who suffer from Paranoia, I believe that the above statement is quite clear on those the term scrounger refers to, however, the general term may be mistakenly applied to those who are suffering with this mental condition. Please take this into account when reading the above.
I’ll be back
Funny thing is, incapacity benefit fraud is not as high as the public think, a government commissioned report by a government welfare advisor David Freud (who is in reality an investment banker, with obviously no knowledge of the benefits system in my opinion (and he stated himself he does not know anything about the benefits system, just google him…) states that fewer than one third of incapacity claimaints are genuine!!!
It also states that its easy to stay on benefits, and that claimaints are only assessed by their own gp’s!
Pack of lies, yet we have to suffer at the hands of incompetant fools like him, and worse the idiots that hired him in the first place!
Even the OFFICIAL statistics for incapacity benefit fraud indicate levels of ZERO POINT FIVE percent fraud level, one even indicates ZERO POINT ONE percent for incapacity benefit fraud during 2005/2006.
That meant that the TOTAL fraud level was 10 million.
MP’s have already been caught out fiddling well over 500 million of taxpayers money on expenses, and not all mp’s have paid money back, who is on the fiddle when you think about it.
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd2/fem/fem_apr05_mar06.pdf#page=26 for the stats about fraud.
Benefit fraud is wrong. No doubt about that, but the levels are so low in incapacity benefits that they are almost negligble, the handful of people running this country fiddle than all incap claimaints combined!
But the public beleive reports like the one by Mr Freud, they watch the benefit fiddle programs, they watch the adverts targetting benefit thieves.
More money is lost to this country through tax avoidance than benefit fraud, where are the ‘we are closing in, we are coming to get you’ adverts targetting bent corporations and managing directors?
The Nazis targeted the ill, making them ‘lepers’ in the community, subject to public hatred, the DWP and the government seem to be doing the same, despite facts that prove its just not happening.
Also, I believe they actually spend MORE investigating benefit fraud than they save… 10 times more I think it was, but I cant find the link to that at the moment.
If I stumble across it I will post, I may be wrong on the exact amount, but Im sure I read it was noticed by some audit at some point.
Comment by thinkpad — June 20, 2009 @ 12:10 pm
Well said Thinkpad, Benefit fraud is wrong, that is an established fact. When you look at some of the more serious cases of fraud and see what has happened to the alleged fraudster i.e. prison, fines, ordered to pay back thousands, then compare that with the thieving M.P.’s who allegedly ‘made a mistake’ and then get off with being allowed to say sorry, one begins to see the unequality in the application of the law. Maybe we should all write to our local chief inspector asking them to investigate our local M.P. Better still, post a petition on the No 10 web site and see how many signatiures it generates.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 20, 2009 @ 1:59 pm
ps, 500 million should be 500 thousand, my apologies, not sure of the exact amount of mp expenses are in question, but the point still stands.
Comment by thinkpad — June 20, 2009 @ 3:32 pm
It doesnt matter if it was 50p it was still taKen by an MP who abused a system that allowed it to happen in the first place. THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY IT BACK AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED AND NOT BEFORE!!!!!
Comment by dwpexamination — June 21, 2009 @ 6:21 am
to all people who think that im a scrouger and that a person who is homless is evil yes iam and god my father told me to chop the publanlords head off amd then slauther his family ! hahahaha i like eating heads !
Comment by scitzo pu lanlord executuiioner — July 13, 2009 @ 12:10 pm
Wow! I am sorry if you are offended my friend, I have never made a single reference to homeless people being scroungers, and would never do so. The scroungers I am referring to are those people who deliberately and knowingly make a false claim for benefits. For example the man who was prosecuted last year for benifit fraud, he claimed to have back problems and was caught when he was filmed lifting a Mini Metro (he had £30+K before they caught him). Or that other guy who ran a marathon when he said he couldnt walk, (he had £72+k before they caught him) . People who make fraudulent claims make it more difficult for others, and according to a recent documentary particularly those who are homless to make a legitimate and deserving claim. Glad I am not a pub landlord, oh and by the way I wish you well.
Comment by dwpexamination — July 13, 2009 @ 1:45 pm
If you’re too ill to work a real job, why not come up with some hare-brained scheme for victimising genuinely ill people? The Department for Work and Pensions will happily hand you millions of pounds of taxpayers money. You know, that money that the government is supposedly short of after the rich fuckers running our banks stole it all. Apparently there is still a huge pot of gold for anyone who can think of new and unique ways of destroying the health of already sick people and denying them the benefits that their tax & NI contributions have paid for.
Comment by Mike — October 26, 2009 @ 7:29 pm
I think its pretty obvious we are a target at present. If in doubt take the easiest route eh? I wonder how these politicians would feel if one of thier own came under the scruitiny of ATOS?
Comment by dwpexamination — October 27, 2009 @ 4:48 pm
I have to agree the number of times i have had benefit stopped is unbelievable i worked for 29 year’s became ill with M.E. the doctors called it yuppie flu many years ago. But it really worries me because it coincided so much with the overuse of antibiotics. this government also blamed the public for going to the doctors and asking for antibiotics (I suppose we can all write our own prescriptions) this was spin to take the pressure off the medical professionals, we need to ask why doctors were, and still are in many instances in denial about this illness and why they try to make the illness insignificant by calling it chronic fatigue syndrome perhaps they believe that if we are made to look like scroungers they will get away with there mistakes. (They tried to with thalidomide for 30 years) anyway i digress sorry, I have had a medical with ATOS before and yes the doctor lied and i can prove this I SCORED ZERO fortunatley the tribunal has seen things very differently but i am due another medical in the next week or so i am taking a witness this time. i would like to know if we can get enough people together to take some of these doctors to court as i believe by telling lies on the medical forms it amounts to defrauding people of benefits. there must be enough people to put a contribution in so that a solicitor can be approached to do this then we could collectively perhaps sue ATOS. I would like to hear peoples views on this.
Comment by 7 tribunals later — January 10, 2010 @ 8:44 pm
Hear, hear, I agree, however, there are issues as to who will manage the collection of funds, which solicitor should be approached and which cases would he / she then take to court among other things. A similar and less technical approach may be to organise as many disabled people as possible in the UK and colectively warn the Government of our intentions to cast our votes for the party shpwing the best support policies for the disabled? This would show these idiots that we mean business, anyone interested? I will be commenting soon on a new DWPexaminatin campeign project keep your eyes peeled. Remember, both the main parties tory and labour are in trouble and are attacking the soft target i.e. the disabled to fund thier proposed policies, also both plan massive public spending cuts! Look out I say, they are coming and we are all inthier sights.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 10, 2010 @ 11:50 pm
To all genuine poorly claimants …you have nothing to worry about we aren’t out to get you. We can tell the scroungers from the genuine one’s. We just want to make sure the one’s that need the support get it quickly and easily. Scroungers you are giving the genuine one’s a bad name.!
Comment by Civil Servant — March 5, 2010 @ 2:44 pm
Myself and another contact of mine who had to go to Tribunal as well, will gladly support any campaign you instigate.
Comment by Lynne — March 14, 2010 @ 12:11 pm
i disagree with you that all those who think they are being watched are spongers.
those with mental health issues can feel they are being watched, by neighbours, by ralatives etc. and yes by the dwp its called parnoia, i believe it is medically recongnise condition.
dont condemn all those concerned about being watched as sponger please!!! those with mental health issues are suffer terribly under the welfare reforms.
Comment by joe — March 15, 2010 @ 11:27 am
Point taken and I stand corrected, I must say muy comment was aimed at those poeople who are “fiddling” and thus making life harder for those who are genuinely diabled. I am aware that there are people suffering from paranoia and in no way include them in that generalisation. Thank you for bringing that to my attention, I will make an ammendment to the statement, more of a disclaimer if that helps.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 16, 2010 @ 8:11 am
To begin with I would urge everybody to check the statue of the ATOS doctor who examined them with the General Medical Council, if they have not carried their job out correctly and they are registered with the GMC make a complaint against them. If the GMC get many complaints about ATOS doctor’s they will have to take them seriously and investigate thoroughly. Their so called ‘Medical Professionals’ will be more careful to do their jobs thoroughly if more of they come under scrutiny of the GMC.
Comment by Kate — April 19, 2010 @ 5:19 pm
To all genuine poorly claimants …you have nothing to worry about we aren’t out to get you. We can tell the scroungers from the genuine one’s. We just want to make sure the one’s that need the support get it quickly and easily. Scroungers you are giving the genuine one’s a bad name.!
Comment by Civil Servant — March 5, 2010 @ 2:44 pm
Total BULLS*** you are in many cases reading a falsified report by an ATOS interrogator who in the majority of cases IMO as no idea of the illness or any related conditions and can legally interpret the claimants answer to make the report sound totally different from what the claimant has said I have a copy of my first interrogation and it read nothing like the answers given even the tribunal staff would not answer questions 2 questions, well 2 question but put as 1, I asked one was why was I cut off in my reply to your questions after 1 word, YES, that is why in other posts I have said those been interrogated should forget the word YES exists
the second question was why are the interrogators allowed to alter what you say, I doubt I called them interrogators, (my daughter just said I phoned her while leaving the tribunal and said to her that they refused to answer my questions just asking me to wait in the other room to be called back in.)
Comment by Dean — May 1, 2010 @ 2:11 pm
hmm, however some of us have genuine, extremely debilitating, but fluctuating conditions. the problem is that 99 days out of 100 we may struggle to walk & 1 day feel ok. would you trust the dwp not to only consider that 1 day? i wouldn’t!
Comment by wizwaz — May 1, 2010 @ 9:23 pm
ATOS IMO try to get claimants to say their condition will improve, and for those with fluctuating conditions ATOS will use the best day rather than a worst day. Those with a condition that can’t be seen without the use of an MRI, CT, X-RAY machine or other equipment that can take images of the inside of the body are in the worst position because ATOS interrogators think like some of the public, they look like there is nothing wrong with them so the report reflects that they are fit for work. My interrogation is on polling day and unlike the last time, when I thought the report was filled with exactly what I gave as an answer to the questions, how wrong I was, when my first flick through sat in the waiting room at the tribunal, I thought I had the wrong report.
After the 6th May the government will want 1 million at least off disability benefits and back into work, I read that as on JSA and running round from course to course where they are not registered as jobless when on a course(as far as I am aware), and those that will be hit are the disabled with fluctuating conditions or hidden conditions. No wonder the government bought in a third party company to do medicals, they can write a report on you after seeing you for, sometimes, no more than 20 minutes and a few questions as well as looking at you topless for conditions that can not and never will be visible just by looking using their eyes
wizwas my total bulls*** reply was directed at civil servant but was not meant to be insulting, even though on a second glance with the first 2 words there it seems that way.
Comment by Dean — May 2, 2010 @ 2:26 am
Thats why it pays to have a witness, they know it makes your life difficult especially if you are easily embarrassed, but if you take someone you can trust, this barrier is removed and you start taking the battle to them. It also makes it difficult for them to misinterpret your answers, though they will try. Oh and by the way, if they ask to have anyone oresent, the answer is NO.
Comment by dwpexamination — May 2, 2010 @ 7:30 am
Whenever you deal with the DWP always describe how you feel on your worst day. Whats good for the goose eh?
Comment by dwpexamination — May 2, 2010 @ 7:32 am
Make it as difficult for them as they are making it for you. Take someone with you to take notes, you may need to jog your memory if you need to go to a tribunal. Use the form on the assessing ATOS page, some readers have and said it not only helped but made taking notes easier too. Also keep a record of any communications you have with ATOS afterall, they record your conversations on the phone and probably in the examination room. The more we put these fools under pressure, the more likely it is they will feel like not going to work and that can only benefit us. Lets take the battle to them for once.
Comment by dwpexamination — May 2, 2010 @ 7:39 am
I am getting a bit sick of people emailing me and asking how they can tell if they are being watched by the DWP? The answer is simple, if you’re worried that you are under observation, then there must be a reason for it! i.e. you must have something to hide!!!!!
OOOHHHH!!!!! dwp does that mean you think I am a benefit scrounger because I keep my curtains shut because every time I try and open or shut them the track falls down and it takes me over an hour to get the 2 rawl plugs and the curtains back up, so it is easier to leave them shut or if a family member opens them ask then to shut them before they leave, no matter what time of day it is.
I am only joking about you thinking I am a scrounger dwp, but keeping the curtains shut for whatever reason will get people talking and I would love the interrogator to ask why are my curtains shut all the time, that’s if they could ever find the place.
Comment by Dean — May 23, 2010 @ 11:18 am
I am glad you see my point. I am aware that my comment has raised concern amongst the disabled community and understand why some people will get upset about it, and in many cases quite rightly so, however, I will not withdraw it. The reasoning behind my statement is, if the question has to be asked, what is the reason for doing so? I am aware that there are people out there who suffer from paranoia and similar mental conditions which, by thier nature cause feelings of being watched and an allowance must be made for them by those of us who are not in that awful and very stressful situation.
Comment by dwpexamination — May 24, 2010 @ 7:45 am
My curtains are shut all the time too, Dean. I wake up early Around 3 – 4am and nap throughout the day. Medication and my illness make me very tired.
I try to go to sleep at night, around 10pm – so there’s no point opening them, innit?
I owe money to Gas, Electric, Water, Phone, companies… and if they send debt collectors round, I’m not in!
I’d pay my debts, if I had an income. No income for over a year, and I’ve had to sell my table + chairs, my double bed, some clothes – which ain’t gonna fit me now I’m obese, and my car! Just to buy food for me and my 2 kids!
Waited a year for the DWP to reach a conclusion… they awarded me ESA, but said they’d overpaid me Income Support – which I wasn’t entitled to last year… before the ESA claim, and took all the money they owed off me! They said they can do that, and don’t have to ask. Guess who’s appealing against that decision?!
It’s true that the men who work for the DWP have thin willys – tight fisted ba**ards… but the women there are as wide as the Watford Gap – lose yourself in there if you’re not careful! LOL!
My medical examiners (2) were of the female species. The chap who examined me the first time was a real wa*ker… rubbed his hands throughout the whole process, stopping to type shite on @puter in between. UGH! Where the Hell do these people crawl out from?
*£100 for each medical examination, and an extra £300 if they fail you! Greedy ATOSsers!
They deemed my neighbours disabled though. Both are slobs. Never worked a day in their entire lives. Contributed a fat fanny adams towards taxes & NI, but managed to have 6 or 7 kids! ~ And they’re depressed! Depressed when the DLA and Income Support runs out and can’t afford beers, so come scrounging round to mine with scabby kids in tow!
I’m fed up of this pathetic system the fools at the DWP are running.
More fed up with the government.
It’s as if no one learns a damn thing from the past!
Circle gets bigger, and bigger as does the nation debt and my anger. GRRR!
Comment by Franka — June 16, 2010 @ 5:37 pm
I work for the DWP
so Franka go fuck ya self you fuckin bitter crippled cow ,
Hitler had it right, bring on the final solution
you over paid moaning spastic.
Comment by pissed off with moaning dead heads — June 20, 2010 @ 7:23 pm
Mmmm, It will be interesting to hear what the DWP actually have t say about this comment. Never mind, I said free speech and no censorship and that is how it will remain. I hope someone from the DWP will read this and look through thier email records for the ISP 82.19.179.245. Maybe its a DWP workstation computer? maybe they recognise the ISP as one of thier employees. I dont knw free speech rules here, unlike the DWP offices throughout the UK.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 21, 2010 @ 6:19 am
Look out Pissed off with moaning dead heads ISP 82.19.179.245 (IHOPE THIS WAS A DWP WORKSTATION COMPUTER) He’ll be back…….
Comment by dwpexamination — June 21, 2010 @ 6:24 am
Oh in addition, this site has had over 40,000 hits, of which 1,178 comments have been posted, of which 4 were negative (and one of those is in doubt) so the score is 1174 positive 4 negative 40,000 readers cant be wrong?
Comment by dwpexamination — June 21, 2010 @ 6:29 am
Now now, lets play nice, there are young people reading this and we dont want to stoop to the level of our critics, do we?
Comment by dwpexamination — June 21, 2010 @ 1:56 pm
Thats OK Franka, I feel your anger and frustration. Keep on commenting though, we dont want to lose you.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 22, 2010 @ 6:35 am
Glad you reported him, as you are aware all cals are recorded for “training purposes” so go get him. Speak to a solicitor, I am sure personal attacks on clients and thier families are not allowed under any circumstances. Also write to your MP demanding an investigation. Its time that people like this obnoxious man were brought to book.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 23, 2010 @ 6:09 am
They say all calls are recorded for training purposes but when I made reference to certain telephone conversations I had with several different ‘telephony agents’ I was told that the taped conversations could not be found. Do you think this was a deliberate obstruction?
Comment by Anonymous — June 23, 2010 @ 8:07 pm
Definately, and the norm for the DWP and ATOS. They usually cant (conveniently) find evidence that proves they are at fault.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 24, 2010 @ 7:22 am
Hey, DWPexam… please, pretty please try to delete my awful comments here as the DWP are conducting an investigation into pencil dicks comment.
oh:
Other than the missing recorded phone call, I’m polite and very pleasant.
> I am though. x x x
Comment by Franka — June 28, 2010 @ 1:41 am
Hi, i went for a dwp axamination by atos, this was my second one in 2 years. My first one was fine and id got myself alworked up for nothing. So when the second one come along because i had 3 new conditions and the previous one had become worse, i thought to myself ill be ok. I WAS WRONG!!!! I have never been so humilated in my life ( and i was headgirl at school), the doctor was horrible and never did a full examination.When i recieved a copy of the report it was full of lies, false quotes and riddled with contraditions.I dont know whhat to do, the saparone that he sent for could easily see how distressed i was and i thought would i be able to get a satement of her to say what she saw. Also i would like them to check their cctv to prove that i did not open the door in and out of the room. My doctor, my specalist and my psycoligist all stae im ill in reports and 3 of my conditions have no cure.He can not denie i am ill but why can he lie and say he did thing he never did.he never even asked me all the questions. Can anyone help i have my tribunal soon. Atos health care phone me on the Monday and said i had to attend on the wednesday, because of this my support worker never had enough notice and neither did my mum so i had to be droped of on my own, but like i said i thought i would be fine becuase id been before
Comment by zoe — June 28, 2010 @ 12:42 pm
Zoe your experience sounds pretty similar to mine. You should report the doctor to the GMC because he has not put your health first as he should do by the terms and conditions of the Fitness to Practice rules. You must also put in a complaint to the Jobcentre Plus and to Atos Healthcare, they both have complaints forms that you must fill out. My MP was very helpful and got my complaint excalated to the Area Manager for Jobcentre Plus. Don’t be bullied, don’t let them get away with this. The benefit system is hugely damaging to people like us and there needs to be change but change will only happen if we all fight together. They will take your complaint seriously if you involve the General Medical Council. The doctor who did my medical also lied and said he had carried out the full examination when he had not. Be strong and fight, go to the Citizen’s Advice Bureau they will help.
Good luck and remember we are here to give you support, we’re all in the same boat.
Comment by Anonymous — June 28, 2010 @ 5:00 pm
One thing I will ask you to remember in future. Please do not put anything you may later regret into words. I do not operate comment moderation or censor comments.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 30, 2010 @ 6:45 am
Hey Franka, was reading that commment by the hitler lover, there’s no way that bozo works for the DWP, no way…that is just a 69 IQ moron, and i would love to meet him, he would be elegible for the support group after i had done with him.
Comment by David — July 2, 2010 @ 1:05 pm
Hi David,
I just wanted my comments deleted as I got really nasty with that w***er and wrote some things in his favour… all true. LOL! But not something the DWP want to read about – a w****er online who may/may not work for them.
You see, I had a very impolite phone conversation a few days before that post with a male at the DWP Debt Management who was too coarse, to say the least.
I don’t give two figs who or where he works, the fact is he got personal.
Stating he works for the DWP is like admitting he’s a w***ker, innit?
I doubt the DWP are going to do much, if anything about my complaint. I made a complaint and would like them to inform me about what actions they took to prevent such a person ever doing this to anyone again.
Well, he seems to have been scared off the group… but like flies to shit, he’ll return and thrive on it.
Makes you wonder how sick some people are (DWP employees or not), and if they actually just seek attention because they’re thinking their sickness entitles them to some sort of benefit. Ha!
Comment by Franka — July 3, 2010 @ 8:56 am
I doubt very much if the coversation was recorded, because if it was he’s for it, because bad as though the DWP are, they dont tolerate twits like that, especially using crude personal language.
So perhaps it was a coincedence, that the Hitler lover appeared just right after the talk with the DWP worker, and you must remember it’s just talk and seems annoying and unbearable at the time, but not long into the future you will have basically forgotten all about it.
As you can see dee dub has advertised his IPS number, and if he works for the DWP they will be on to that straight away, but i suspect it’s just a drifter without a life to lead, scouring the net looking for folk to upset, there’s thousands of them all over the world, there was even a few on the Sack ATOS petition, one twit said and i paraphrase with spelling mistakes ” A want free muney, it’s my write, how can a pay fore ma sky pakige” this is the nonsense we are up against, imagine what it must be like working for the DWP, with all the crackpots of the day phoning up with idiotic and impossible demands, dont get me wrong i have had more than my fair share of problems with thE DWP but i dont take it personaly any longer, and just go with the flow, i found my life became a hell of a lot easier.
CHEERS from DAVID.
Comment by David — July 3, 2010 @ 1:05 pm
Hmm… the verdict is as follows: “We take each compliast against out employees very seriosly. However, we have no proven details to further our search, although you have provided us with an ISP identity, we cannot violate privacy.
The person you say is called “Anderson” is not employed or known to us.
I’m calling Debt Management in the morning, insisting I speak to Anderson…
Let it not be allowed, for we have fucking rights!
Comment by Franka — July 8, 2010 @ 6:33 pm
They wont tell you if it’s one of their employees, it will be dealt with internally, obviously revealing to you there’s a problem with an employee thats caused you harm, could give you possible grounds to sue them.
I dont believe anyone would be stupid enough to use a works computer, so whoever it was has almost certainly used a personal device at home or an internet-cafe.
Anyway keep in touch and let us know of any interesting developments.
As i said you get these twits all the time, i remember one on another page on this blog, who said something along the lines of ”ATOS are best, go get job you scroungers want to lie in bed all day, while i work etc”
So then, if he/she works, why was he/she getting a medical with ATOS,who obviously passed him/her fit for work, so what was the point of going for the assessment then, if he/she already believes they are fit for work.
So then it doesn’t take a veritable einstein to work out, that that particular person is just a troublemaker.
Comment by David — July 10, 2010 @ 10:38 am
Just out of curiousity (and pointing fingers)… But has anyone read about the former Somalian assylum seekers and their new pad? A 2.1 million pound property he demanded to rent and gets £8,000 a month rent for!
Now that’s what I call a sponger!!
Our own homeless can’t afford £12 a night to stay in a shelter… yet the government bend rules for foreigners.
ARRGGGHHHH!!!
Comment by Franka — July 12, 2010 @ 4:34 am
Is there a link to the story?
Comment by dwpexamination — July 12, 2010 @ 6:23 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293730
Comment by Franka — July 12, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
The world has gone mad. Bet he’s in for an interview shortly though
Comment by dwpexamination — July 13, 2010 @ 5:50 pm
Naah. What interview? he’s “special circumstances”.
Made the news last year too… with another home he rented for full whack!
The council have decided to look into his renewal next year, so he’s safe till April, then will find a bigger and more expensive pace to abide. LOL!
Comment by Franka — July 13, 2010 @ 7:17 pm
Sadly, youre right. He’s an asylum seeker, which appears at first glance to allow him access to a “superior” support mechanism to which the general population of the UK dont have. Isnt our (the disabled) case at least as strong or important as his is? Isnt it time that the support groups started practicing what they preach and treat every case with the same care and attention, regardles of race, colour, creed, sexual orientation, status etc?
Comment by dwpexamination — July 14, 2010 @ 7:26 am
I really think it’s time I moved to Kensington!
I know I joke about living there, I don’t… but should. Year after year I read about some Somali asylum seeker robbing the government of thousands of our taxes, and even when they’re brought to “justice” they’re treated with sympathy and never go to prison, let alone pay back what they’ve stolen!
I live worse than “below the poverty” line.
I’m having to pay back nearly £20 a fortnight out of my ESA a fortnight – which was due to an overpayment the DWP made up as I kept them informed of my circumstances and any changes on a regular basis.
Surely the Somali’s – being refugges n’all ought to grateful for a roof over their heads, and food… but oh no, they have great advisers who tell them to go for the best, and get it!
We, the disabled are advised to go through a tonne of red tape and stress, for a pittance to get by on, and when we get it, we’re so grateful!
It’s time for this government to realise that a population is made up of various kinds of people, who all have equal rights, regardless of their circumstances and all should be treated as special… afterall, it’s us, the people who elect the one’s in power. > Not even sure a (former) asylum seeker has a right to vote.
GRRR! Things that make me go ARGH!
Comment by Franka — July 14, 2010 @ 4:02 pm
Youre right, its like I said. We have a 2 tier system here whicvh puts the rights of those who have contributed less to our society above those who have contributed all thier working lives. Its a disgrace, but if the chancellor had said we are going to crack down on asylum seeking welfare benefit scroungers he would have been jailed? The mind boggles
Comment by dwpexamination — July 15, 2010 @ 7:04 am
Nope. Asylum seekers have no right to vote.
They have special rights though, that allow them to soak up thousands of tax payers money.
They have rights and lawyers who’ll defend their fraudulant claims – at a cost to us again.
Here’s food for thought… you know the former asylum seekers that were in the news didn’t even have to pay a deposit or administration fees for their new home? Someone tells me the council paid it!
Oh, and even with neighbours complaining to have this family moved… the council say they don’t want to upset the family and kids by moving them out of the area as the kids are settled in a school.
> They moved in last month. The kids are not even in school. They’re at the top of the list for entry in September! Ooh, ooh… and they’ve claimed for another set of new uniforms and free school meals!!!
Next year the council will look into renewing their claim for rent, and according to the new rules their Housing Allowance will be cut to £400 a week, yeah right! I’m already seeing a long court case with human rights lawyers fannying around like flies making millions out of these circumstances… while we just get used to being harassed by the DWP for our rightful benefits.
Makes me sick!
~ BLEH ~
Comment by Franka — July 15, 2010 @ 3:21 pm
omg i mite be a bit late on the information but has anybody herd of these vouchers the asilum seekers get for there shopping.My friend works for asda and she says they come in with a big massive book of vouchers from the goverment to by for there food.She says the majority of them dont get food thet get beer with it all they pull out 50pound notes to pay for the rest. its a joke and there more
Comment by zoe — July 20, 2010 @ 10:15 am
I am in NO way a scrounger, nor am I clinically or even just colloquially paranoid, but I am suffering from severe & debilitating depression, with regular suicidal “ideation” following a series of personal tragedies.
Some days I can pull my s4*t together though, and go out looking and feeling semi-OK, and try to act like a normal person – the days I dont go out, I’m often as not inside vomiting because Ive been crying so long, and considering ending it all.
The idea that someone with a camera and the same kind of selective reporting as the ATOS crew is going to use the days I do sort my stuff out against me as ‘proof’ of fraud is worrying, and I only risked posting this here and long after this thread quitened down because I feel that there are people who are neither scroungers nor paranoid who might worry about this. I hope to get back into work soon, Im getting treatment, but I have an ATOs assessment next week and that’s why I’m here because I don’t trust them, and that’s not paranoia either.
Comment by Reader — January 19, 2011 @ 6:53 pm
Welcome to our community, first thanks for having the courage to post, its difficult t go through life with what can only be described as an unseen disability. Depression affects many of our readers and commentators and is as debilitating as any physical disability. I hope you find the information in the blog useful, please feel free to join our sister forum at http://dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org/index.php?component=indexpage where you will find others in a similar position to your own.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 20, 2011 @ 1:26 am
Funny how the welfare fiddlers in these programs on TV are always white aint it
Comment by Jeff — May 10, 2011 @ 5:47 pm
Iv completly give up, I have an incurable diease and they woount give me dla so im not going to keep fighting it when all they say is no, they want me to wait a few years untill im really bad they then will help. I carnt see this being the only way but its certainly becomung the “norm” for DLA.
Comment by zo — May 11, 2011 @ 12:23 pm
They are trying to sicken you by making it as difficult as possible, and that applies to all benefits, ESA/IB, DLA the lot, if you think your entitled you should keep fighting and make it as difficult as possible for them as well.
For everyone who drops out is just an excuse for them to say AH HA another one of the books, so for that alone you shouldn’t give up, show them you refuse to bend to their will and becoming another one of their statistics..!!
http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/index.php And fight them.
Comment by dwpexamination — May 11, 2011 @ 12:43 pm
Thankyou for the comment and i know i shouldnt give up im even thinking of saving up and going private to see if that helps. They want me to attend psyio and other appointments to try and ease my symtoms yet they are unwilling to help with the travel cost. Psyio is miles away and iv not got a carer so i carnt go and thats a remember iv got appoinments because of my memory. They really do make me laugh they moan about money this money that, if they helped you in the first place you wouldnt need more resources of them in the future. If i was to recieve help now i would have time to find medication that suits me and then even maybe return to education just to refresh and go back into work. But they dont want to do that. They carnt take my dissablity premium off because because i will aways be lky this but with the right medication my bad days can become somewhat easier. I dont want to do nothing for the rest of my life and i dont understand why a job carnt accomadate my needs. Im not uneducated and i worked for 4 years before i became ill but im only 23 and i dont want this to be it for me. We can have so much to offer this world but they wont let us because there is no inbetween for them.
Comment by zo — May 11, 2011 @ 5:19 pm
Please excuse my spelling its one thing im really bad at.
Comment by zo — May 11, 2011 @ 5:21 pm
They want everyone to go private, that’s one of their dream goals, the NHS is staying and that’s that, Cameron can go and take a running jump and he can take his idiotic work for nothing big society with him, nobodies interested in his deluded ideas.
Their plan is to stop welfare, get us all on food stamps (Like in the USA) and sleeping rough, they are not interested in anyones needs or helping them to find work.
It’s all a con and that’s why we must fight them, that’s why we must keep posting and commenting on blogs and forums like this and http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/
Doing and saying nothing is not an option, one day they will buckle and we will win, the demonstration today in London is a start !!
Comment by dwpexamination — May 11, 2011 @ 6:24 pm
Further to my earlier comment regarding my functional assessment, as expected the Dr was a nice chap, shook my hand and wished me all the best, as I have already stated I could have written the assessment and what was going to happen in there before I even went in the door.
It’s hard to believe that human beings can be so nice to your face, but silently and ruthlessly plot your downfall, no wonder some people prefer the company of animals.
Imagine this for a moment, just imagine you were whisked of to another planet, a thousand light years away, and after landing there and admired the scenery, you noticed that one particular life form on that planet was totally dominant towards the other species on the planet.
Hunting the other species, catching them and hanging them upside down and slitting their throats, catching them on hooks bashing their heads in with clubs burning them and eating them, catching others and keeping them as pets, keeping them in cages and teaching them to do tricks for their own amusment.
And moreover the more dominant of that species were even cruel and ruthless towards members of their own kind.
What would you think of that planet ? what would you think of that particular species ?.
THINK NO MORE BECAUSE THAT IS US, AND A CIVILISED FORM OF LIFE FROM ANOTHER PLANET VISITING HERE WOULDN’T GET OF THIS EARTH FAST ENOUGH TO GET AWAY FROM US.
Some say that there is no life on other planets, or at least no advanced intelligent life, i say there is plenty of life out there, and i wouldn’t be surprised if they have seen us, and they know about us, they have seen enough and they sure as fuck don’t want to have anything to do with us..!!
Someone said that the surest proof that other advanced life forms exist, is the fact that we don’t know about them and/or have even bothered themselves to visit us.
Well if you came from another planet, would you bother yourself to come all the way to this shithole !!
Comment by dwpexamination — May 12, 2011 @ 6:27 am
i agree with your core argument, but as the dwp exam is for disability not sickness, it is an unfair test, My gf is recovering from breast cancer complicated by just before being diagnosed had cepticemia /peritonitus, the after effects of the cancer treatment is lymphodemia, the after effects of the herceptin treatment, leaves her exhausted after a 4 to 500yd walk (dwp say your fit if you can walk 200yds??) but has failed to gain any points on her medical?? but the alcoholic across the road has been awarded full incapacity and mobility!! i think they should target those who self inflict there problems :- alcoholics, junkies, the obese etc not those with genuine illness or disabilities!
Comment by chip — June 24, 2011 @ 2:17 pm
Hi Chip.
ESA is for anyone with genuine health problems, therefore the DWP examination should be identifying the genuine with health problems like your Girlfriend, zero points is ridiculous and she should appeal immediately.
You can get help here at http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ and get great advice.
As for the fakers, well they will be found out soon enough when they come to get tested, so don’t worry about them, theyr’e in for a surprise.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 24, 2011 @ 2:45 pm
already in appeal had a prelim notice the decision will not be over ruled!! even with letters from her gp and Cristies consultant!! as Atos are using unqualified people, it is not a fair test as it is only a disability test not a sickness test, so those who are not disabled, will not get points, as the test alows for alcoholics, junkies and obese to be classified as disabled, it needs to be rethought, as i say i agree there are a lot of spongers but it seems a lot of genuine people are being punished, i am currently advising anyone in the same situation to report the doctor or nurse to either the GMC or nursing and midwifery council, with a view to having any doctor or nurse, to have there licence reviewed. As the dwp have decided to use an american co that has been banned in a few american states from dealing in health issues, why are we using them?? at a greater cost than the gp’s the old dhss used, which did work, if they gave the GP’s who where doing previos examinations the updated criteria, it would have saved a goood few million pounds a year, but as Atos are on contract to fail a high percentage to enable them to keep the contract, this makes it unjust and unfair!!
Comment by chip — June 24, 2011 @ 4:59 pm
RE post[s] 43+
A viral email claims that “illegal immigrants/refugees living in Britain” receive significantly more financial assistance from the Government than UK pensioners. The email originates from abroad and the figures quoted do not reflect the true situation in the United Kingdom.
http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05621
Comment by Anonymous — August 24, 2011 @ 4:43 pm
Cheers Anonymous…Does look like a hoax, but will pass it around.
Don’t forget to visit the new forum.
http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/
Comment by dwpexamination — August 24, 2011 @ 6:05 pm
Quite right chip, I agree, ATOS and the DWP are definetely a law on to themselves, that’s going to change some day though.
(PS) The new unhackable forum is now available.
http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/
Comment by dwpexamination — August 24, 2011 @ 6:07 pm
I suffer from severe mental illness Depression, social anxiety and I have been out today all day. I get paranoia too and everywhere I turn I feel I am being followed yet it is a struggle for me to leave my home. when I have achieved it I feel people are out to get me! I called my mum constantly during the time I’m out to put it into perspective logically. I have suffered with this for nearly 3 and a half years and I have two children who get frustrated at home. Everytime I have a good moment and go to the park with my son I feel people are following and taking photos. What to do????
Comment by Gemma — October 11, 2011 @ 9:36 pm
I don’t know Gemma because I do not suffer from that condition, may I ask what does your Doctor say ?.
Comment by dwpexamination — October 11, 2011 @ 9:52 pm
Yes of course I have been under a community mental health team for over a year however my care has come to an end… They are referring me to mindfulness as my condition hasn’t helped with meds and psychotherapy. They do want to try another drug for epilepsy but I am feeding a 5 month old at the moment so I cannot take anything till I stop as it is not safe. In which case my condition is worse. I meet up with someone from rethink once a week and yesterday when I met her I felt people were following in vans and observing me. I know about surveillance etc.. As my cusion use to do the job so I know how real it is… Even though I have nothing to hide if they are checking it doesn’t help my problem.
Comment by Gemma — October 12, 2011 @ 2:17 pm
As you say, if you have nothing to hide they are on to plums and just wasting their time…!!
Comment by dwpexamination — October 12, 2011 @ 6:01 pm
Absolutely. It is terriable how people who r really ill who can’t get the help they need awful. I get ESA. I am entitled to other help but only claim the basic even though I have always paid my stamp. I feel you should only claim enough to get by so that is what I do.
It is terrible how people can get thousands and thousands it is just abuse to the DWP absolutely awful….
Comment by Gemma — October 12, 2011 @ 6:40 pm
I believe in claiming what I’m due, which at the moment is not much just the assessment rate, but if I’m entitled to more I will claim it, and I advise anyone else to do the same, it’s everyone’s right to claim what’s rightfully theirs.
Did our fathers go through two world wars for this shower of bastards to just take it off us ? this Government without a mandate to just ride roughshod over us with their draconian welfare reform along with their evil intention to destroy the National health service, I don’t think so.
Claim what you are due then and no more is what I say !! because they will give you nothing if you don’t.
Comment by dwpexamination — October 12, 2011 @ 9:55 pm
Iain Duncan Smith will be wringing his hands with worry when he reads this blog. Talk about damning evidence. Who is he to judge anothers disability? and based on what, his own prejudices? If you don’t look disabled then you aren’t disabled is what he seems to think? Dont forget we are all scroungers in the eyes of the press and the government particularly those who have disabilities that cant be seen. So whenever you see disability hate crime in the newspapers, on TV or witness it first hand make sure you repoort it immediately you can do this by contacting Crimestoppers.
Comment by Arbeitsscheu_UK — December 15, 2011 @ 4:18 pm
I suffer from two chronic conditions that my specialist says won’t get better because the NHS failed to treat the initial injury properly, whilst on benefits I’ve done voluntary work and a permitted work trial. Both aggravated my conditions with the work trial lasting two days doing 3 hours for a fortnight before it was obvious it was having an effect on my condition, I’ve had several appeals and won them yet ATOS continue to lie and put me into vulnerable positions for months at a time, I was unwell for days after my last successful appeal and it too the DWP about six weeks to reinstate what the panel said I was entitled too.
I would love to work but my ill health soon effects me, I have however created a disabled aid that has been given to thousands of people in the UK just to prove that despite my illness I have something to offer. Whilst ill I have created work for about twelve UK businesses some was a one off and several get repeat work, some of them would like to employ me but my chronic conditions undermine what I’d like to do.
Against my advisers advice I told the Appeal Panel what I’d done, what I wanted to do and how it affected me, also told them that I followed my specialists instructions to not let the pain stop me from getting out because he said stopping because of pain would make my condition worse just as would overdoing things. It’s a fine line between moving and not overdoing things but I am ill enough and want to try and stop getting worse.
Comment by Ian M Davies — December 15, 2011 @ 4:48 pm
I was listening to a video on YouTube the other day, uploaded by one of a group of disability attorneys. In it he reminded his clients of the standard advice that they should always think that they are being videotaped, but the real focus of this chat was the question of facebook (and other social media).
Firstly, he said, remember that the investigators from the insurance companies will check up on Facebook to see if you are on there. If you do something silly like posting photos of yourself skiing, then perhaps you deserve to have a letter saying that if you can manage a skiing holiday, then perhaps you can work.
He went on to say, however, that you have to be rather more careful than that. If someone takes a picture of you looking happy at a family christening party, then the insurance company will use that as evidence that you are not in constant pain, as you claim. In fact if you can GET to a family party, then clearly travel is not a problem for you.
Now our own DWP does do surveillance to prove people are working when they say they unemployed, or able to work when they say they are sick. They have been listening to Unum’s advice on “claim management”, so I guess they will now be looking you up on facebook too.
And they are probably reading all these blog posts by people who say they can’t work. But, as someone pointed out on one disability blog – “If you can write all this stuff then you could manage to earn at home – look at J K Rowling.”
The ability to protest is going to be used against us.
Comment by Vicki — December 15, 2011 @ 11:54 pm
Thanks for that, its great to know our readers are taking notice of what is happening to sick and disabled people, keep up the good work.
Comment by dwpexamination — December 16, 2011 @ 1:41 pm
This blog is pathetic my post has been completely changed because I dared to criticise the author of this ridiculous childish post. I will take that up with wordpress, the evidence, copied below, is a complete misrepresentation of the comment I made, a total lie.
Iain Duncan Smith will be wringing his hands with worry when he reads this blog. Talk about damning evidence. Who is he to judge anothers disability? and based on what, his own prejudices? If you don’t look disabled then you aren’t disabled is what he seems to think? Dont forget we are all scroungers in the eyes of the press and the government particularly those who have disabilities that cant be seen. So whenever you see disability hate crime in the newspapers, on TV or witness it first hand make sure you repoort it immediately you can do this by contacting Crimestoppers.
Comment by Arbeitsscheu_UK — December 15, 2011 @ 4:18 pm
Comment by Arbeitsscheu_UK — December 16, 2011 @ 6:07 pm
What posts are you critising ? and what posts are you talking about ? your comment doesn’t make sense, if you have something to say please say it rather than critising folk who are ill and just trying to find help.
Perhaps you have certain issues, sorry we can’t help you with that, please see a Dr, but if you are appealing against an unfair decision by ATOS or the DWP we may be able to help, in fact we will try our very best to make sure you are not deprived of your rights, and that’s any rights, your right to a fair tribunal, your right to certain benefits that may be due, and your human rights, of course if you don’t value your own or others human rights then this is not the Blog for you, please go somewhere else, I hear the BNP do a good Blog, haven’t actually seen it myself but that’s what I heard, maybe ah yes I’m sure it was the Daily mail what told me…
Comment by dwpexamination — December 16, 2011 @ 7:50 pm
The question of who is a scrounger or malingerer is an emotive one. Fluctuating and hidden conditions are difficult to assess and whenever I say I am disabled people always think they have the right to an opinion regardless of their medical training or knowledge ( or lack of!!!). I’m sick of having to justify myself to every single person. Being followed is also a horrible situation to be in. I was followed by private detectives working for an insurance company. Its true you don’t have anything to worry about if you are genuine but its also true most claimants try to paint themselves in a positive light when being assessed. I was advised years ago to always be my worst when in any assessment situation but IMO its human nature to try when someone is encouraging you to do your best.
Finally if you are being followed you can’t do anything about it. You won’t get any admission from anyone and trying is pointless.
I have had benefits stopped numerous times because someone has used the grass line to make up something about me.
Comment by neil — December 18, 2011 @ 1:55 pm
I’m in the process of appealing and going to tribunal as my DLA was stopped. It had previously been the highest level for care and lowest for mobility, gone to nothing in one go. The DWP made their decision based on one medical report where a Doctor said I had “improved”. I have letters written within a month before and within a month after that medical report where the same Doctor acknowledges how ill I am and how I need regular monitering, the medical report was just reporting ‘one particular good day’ for me as I do vary from day/week to day/week.
I’m just saying this as your post above berates people for being anxious about being watched by the DWP, and while I am not as I have far more serious things to worry about I do have a fear of having a good day/week which might get reported to the DWP and I might lose my ESA or whatever just based on that! I dare not have a good day! What if I get spotted??!!
Comment by Fiz — December 29, 2011 @ 2:48 pm
Hello Fiz.
It’s good to see you are appealing, and you can see their whole idea is to force you to appeal or drop out, the DMs decision is normal and the appeal panels know they try every trick in the book to deny you your right to benefits, so you don’t need to worry about that, you also don’t need to worry about the medical report that says you have improved because at the tribunal you just don’t show it (There’s no law that says you have to show it to anyone) because this is about you and your life and that means showing the appeal tribunal anything that helps you, and showing nothing that helps the DWP.
If you need help with the appeal you can get some here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ from like minded people who have seen it, done it and worn the tee shirt.
Comment by dwpexamination — December 29, 2011 @ 3:37 pm
I am a carer – personal assistant, 2 of my ‘service users’ gave up the fight, one went into a care home (they wanted to live at home but without care this was not possible) the other sold up and literally bribed their family with the proceeds of their sale (and guess what, the council are now funding some ‘care in the community’ ) -how is this saving the Government money??? any more of my clients tossed into the ‘no support required’ category I may as well sign-on – Carers will soon be redundant…..swelling the JSA queues, my ladies were genuine disabled & I was really stressed trying to help
I couldn’t convince them to fight any longer.
Comment by will be jobless — January 29, 2012 @ 7:41 pm
Hello WBJ. and everyone who is reading this.
Well the next time you can say that appealing is not a problem because there is help available, welfare rights can help, and we can help.
It’s only stressful if you make it stressful that’s their whole idea to create stress in fact so much stress that we just give up the fight, but once you realise what they are trying to do and with help combat it the stress disappears.
So why are they creating all this stress ? isn’t this counter productive ? not really because once you see what their whole point is then it all fits in to place, and their first point is that they want to reduce the sickness benefit figures whether they reduce the sickness or peoples health problems is irrelevant they don’t care because that’s not what its about, and as I said it’s all about reducing the figures even if it costs them money because you see it’s a Government propaganda lie that there is no money left, and that brings me to the next point, since they are not saving money but actually wasting money then you could ask well where is this money going and why are they wasting it ?, and I can tell you that it’s not really wasted as such, it’s just wasted because it’s not going to the rightful people but going to the Governments rich friends like Action for work, ATOS healthcare and other parasitical corporate companies.
So once this is accomplished and the majority of people have been deprived of their right to benefit and the NHS has been dealt with in a similar manner and we have all died off or killed ourselves with the stress then the next stage will appear, which is the insurance companies like the outlawed American company UNUM Provident http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/first_unum?ref=article step in and tell you (They are already doing it, advertising on the tele) that there is no point in trying to get sickness benefits in the future so why not get private work/health insurance with us, if you fall ill we will look after you, you will find our health insurance package is very reasonable and our hospitals top class, but after you pay their exorbitant monthly fees and one day you fall ill and cannot work then that’s when you get your first shock because you will get a letter that will say GO GET JOB YOU SCROUNGER does the reader understand what I am trying to say, are the people of this Country going to flippen wake up, because I am sick fed up explaining this to people week after week after week.
Sorry if I sound angry, it’s because I am angry and also because I am watching the people of this Country virtually giving up their rights that their parents fought for in the last war, we can do something about it, we can show this Government that we are aware and through sites like this http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ prepared to do something about it.
The alternative is to do nothing and GET STOOD ON AND SQUASHED..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — January 29, 2012 @ 8:45 pm
Very well said. That is exactly what this bunch if “glory boys want! reduce the spending for the sick and disabled, push them all onto the NHS and then when the NHS goes into overload Mr Davie boy says NHS not working we have not choice but to privatize Andy is affiliated to a private health company already so he is trying to break the NHS up already ..rubbing his greedy little hands in glee…
Fucking lot of wnakers! And as for the rest of the country when are they going to wake up and see that if you have to work for a living you are WORKING Class, not middle class,, not Upper Class BUT WORKING class, some may make more than other s b ut we are all WORKING CLASS! and with that we are also all human and susceptible to accidents health issues which make us disabled. WE all have a vested inteest to stop the We;fare reforms before it is too late
Comment by Eomunda — February 11, 2012 @ 9:44 pm
WHEN YOU GO FOR THE ESA EXAM, DRINK A BOTTLE OF SOMETHING STRONG, IE BRANDY, USE A WALKMAN/MOBILE PHONE, DONT SHAVE FOR A WEEK OR TWO, KEEP STUTTERING, TALKING ABOUT THE WAR, CETRA, CALL THE PERSON DOING THE EXAM A POMIE BASTARD, AND IF YOU CAN BRING YOUR SELF TO DO IT PEE YOUR SELF THERE AND THEN! ITS EXTREAM BUT YOU WILL GET A FULL PASS!!
Comment by Anonymous — February 16, 2012 @ 6:08 pm
Just got zero score and my benefit stopped. I hve appealed but almost gave up on my life because of their treatment of me. The doctor made me feel worthless and useless. Your site has gave me a little hope
Comment by deedee — February 23, 2012 @ 11:54 am
Hello deedee.
Everyone just about gets zero points there’s nothing unusual about that, glad to see you have appealed, show them some medical evidence and describe your inability to function regarding the descriptors and you will win.
There are thousands of us so you are not alone out there, if you need help or just want to see what’s happening then tune in to the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/index.php.
Comment by dwpexamination — February 23, 2012 @ 1:44 pm
In response to the original post, would like to respectfully make the point that while i agree its reasonable to conclude someone with a fear of being under observation by the DWP likely had something to hide, at the same time not everyone who has something about their private life they d prefer the DWP not to know is a scrounger. Plenty of claimants find out the hard way being too open with the truth works against them so naturally feel they cant trust the DWP with sharing too much information, but which might get found out under observation and used as a weapon to abuse them, and could easily be given some of the ways Welfare Benefit law is set up.
Comment by Emma286 — March 5, 2012 @ 6:51 pm
Hello Emma.
I must say I have to agree with you, it’s very difficult to argue with that Emma..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 5, 2012 @ 7:26 pm
Hey DWP Examination
I think, very sadly, this is what society is coming to.
The DWP and Atos are using such nasty cunning tactics, that they re in only too easy a position to succeed with, against people with genuine problems that disrupt their ability to work, it intimidates many people into feeling they have to hide certain things, because they learn if they don’t most likely the information will not be accepted or treated in a reasonable way. Sadly if they were caught out doing this, on the surface, it could easily look to an outsider like they d been making up they had an illness or disability and like they re the same as people who deliberately con the DWP because they get a pleasure kick out of it. It would be only too easy for the DWP to make out this was the case too. This is all thanks to the likes of those in Labour and The Conservatives who have got into power in recent decades, as far as i can personally anyway, who seem determined to screw as many
Comment by Emma286 — March 6, 2012 @ 12:51 pm
people out of benefits as they can, irrespective of whether they’re truly con artist s or not.
Sorry for the post split by the way! Im typing this from a smartphone and it can be a bit temperamental in letting me type long messages!
Comment by Emma286 — March 6, 2012 @ 12:56 pm
Hello Emma.
Your right and it’s been going on since at least 0CT 2008, that’s when all this nonsense really took off, it doesn’t matter what the health issue are with anyone. they have decided to hand out zero points to see if they will sign on or appeal, they hope we sign on of course that suits them best, and appealing ? well who really wants to wait up to a year to appeal and then go through the whole process again ? unless they had genuine health issues.
It’s a con and nothing but a complete shambles, I urge every person with health issues who has been turned down by ATOS to appeal, and keep appealing, they will give up before we do as long as we keep at it..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 6, 2012 @ 1:25 pm
Hey again DWP Examination
Completely agree with what you said. I didn’t realise this all started specifically around October 2008! Makes perfect sense to me though, as that’s was when i had to stop working in my last job. Id already had problems getting work, and retaining jobs, in large part because of anxiety and panic problems, for some time but had never claimed ESA before. That was my second attempt to try to be successful with holding a job down after a course of therapy which i hoped would enable me to manage my problems well enough so it wouldn’t interfere with work performance. It didn’t work out, both employers dismissed me within weeks. I knew most likely just the same thing would occur next time i tried working in a job, assuming i could even get one with my patchy work record. So though i was initially put back on JSA i felt so bad about it, knowing how my problems were affecting my ability to cope with being in a work environment, i felt it would be the right honest thing to tell the DWP and claim ESA early 2009. Looking back, after some of the appalling treatment ive been on the receiving end of since, i wonder why i even bothered caring about what was fair to them. Seems to me they just want to exploit people who are too honest with them.
Comment by Emma286 — March 7, 2012 @ 12:00 pm
Now as if things weren’t already bad enough, this Welfare Reform Bill has gone through meaning lots more sick and disabled people are going to lose out on benefits. Hopefully there will be something advice agencies can do to help at least some of them, im keeping my fingers crossed. And agreeing, where there s an appeal option available its definitely worth trying!
Comment by Emma286 — March 7, 2012 @ 12:11 pm
Your right Emma, it’s all going to get worse, they want to cut the funding to the advice agencies as well, they want everyone of sickness benefits, it was all sneakily planned by Tony Blair years ago, the tories are taking of where they left off, the only difference is the Tory boys want to do it quicker because they know that they are finished come the next election.
People will be flocking to Blogs and forums like this http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ in the future because there will be no CAB or Welfare rights left, and any that are left will be charging money, so learn all you can Emma and start learning now because we/you will be on your own someday.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 7, 2012 @ 4:20 pm
Many thanks for directing me to the forums DWP Examination, and will definitely be doing that!
Comment by Emma286 — March 7, 2012 @ 8:34 pm
Cheers EMA, and your welcome..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 7, 2012 @ 10:40 pm
I recently appealed against my atos medical and lost although I have limited mobility due to arthritis have suffered with diarrohea for several months due to food allergies. I dont go out and havent been for over a year (although I still go to my GPs my friends give me a lift) which as resulted in severe vitamin D deficiency. I am in extreme discomfort in bed and can barely sleep which leaves me tired all day. I dont have a social life but a couple of friends come around to help me out with shopping and cleaning. I am in constant pain. Yet my appeal failed. These people are not playing God they are actually Satanic and belong to a Satanic cult of the most evil species on earth. The meek shall inherit the earth bring it on I am sick of it all.Although I believe that this problem needs looking at by the Court of Human rights in Europe. We are one of the worst looked after nations in Europe.
Comment by Eva — March 31, 2012 @ 4:14 pm
Hello Eva.
It’s hard to believe and in normal circumstances I wouldn’t believe you, this is not a normal situation and I know what the systems all about, you need to re-apply for ESA and this time try and get help from the CAB or welfare rights.
Yes you can re-apply there’s nothing to stop you if your condition has worsened or you have a new health issue, even on your next appeal you can still win, the chances are you got a hanging judge I know it’s possible because I’ve had one.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 31, 2012 @ 6:30 pm
I am a mental health patient on very high medication, I sufferparnio schizophernia, deprissan, anxeity and stress on depo injections 100 mg of xenical, 20mg anti depressant and 20mg of high blood pressure.
But I sometimes go to the pub with my dad and have a pint of beer I am not allowed to drink too much and don’t.
but even my cpn and doctors say it ok to have the occasinal pint but your calling me a benefit scrounger/theif and bullying me.
Comment by Sarah Ure — May 20, 2012 @ 10:55 pm
No im not
Nelson
Comment by dwpexamination — May 21, 2012 @ 5:55 am