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A taste of thier own medicine

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Oh how the world turns eh? Its time for the politicians to squirm under the glare of publicity surrounding their illegal, fraudulent, thieving, two faced, lying cheating behaviour. It makes me wonder how much they have shaved off our benefits and human rights just to ensure their moats get cleaned, their ducks have somewhere to live and they can provide illegal homes for their offspring and jobs for their lazy wives and family. These good for nothing, useless, self serving twats deserve all they have coming to them and I urge you, as I have done to make a complaint to your local constabulary requesting an investigation into the activities of our members of parliament. Don’t be afraid, its our chance to get some of our own back and have these bastards dreading the next brown envelope to hit the doormat.

Its strange how they expect us, the people who put them into their present position of power, to accept that they have “made mistakes”? It is strange how they expect us, the people with the real power to forgive them because they have said sorry? It is strange how they expect us to conveniently forget that they have abused our trust for years and now genuinely want to see change?

Lets take a close look then shall we? one M.P.  useless, lying twat who said he made a mistake by putting the wrong address on a claim form, then proceeded to do it a further 23 times when claiming mortgage interest. His excuse, no one in the claims office told him he had made the mistake in the first place? How bizarre! surely a well educated man like this thieving bastard knows where he lives? Which mortgage he is claiming interest payments on, after all there didn’t appear to be a problem with the amount he claimed? was there? Oh and by the way, it wasnt his fault and he blamed someone else so that makes it perfectly allright then? If you did that tyo the DWP you would be hung…

What do you think would happen to you if you claimed your benefits and put the wrong address on the form eh? Would the DWP accept you made a mistake? I fear not, your benefits would be suspended, you would be investigated and if anything untoward was found you would be prosecuted. Come on, someone prove me wrong?

Then they expect us to accept that they have made a mistake and forgive their transgressions. Look at that Tory rogueM.P.and his good lady, both of the greedy lying bastards have fleeced us of thousands of pounds claiming for two homes? Two homes I ask you, most of us on benefits can barely afford to run one.

What about the Labour thief M.P. who says, and I quote “Let’s clean up the system as possible and then let’s start talking about the issues people really want to be talking about – their jobs, education, the health service, and all those issues.” Of course he wants us to stop whingeing and is desperately trying to divert attention away from the years of abuse of public money. He should take a look at his brothers claims for gardening expenses and try to say that again with a straight face.

Just this morning an ex Liberal Democrat alcoholic vagabond M.P. said and I quote “We are all being tarred with the same brush”
? Welcome to my world you idiot, isnt that what the DWP are doing to us!
Maybe its time for us to unite and change the benefits system using the evidence of years of abuse and fraud as  both a catalyst and as examples of fraudulent behaviour as the basis of our argument for reform. What do you think, I’ll be back.   Join our sister forum at   http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/index.php

43 Comments »

  1. Did you know that you can get a home visit? Well I rang and was told yes you can. No cameras or spies, your in control, giving a true picture of your condition.

    Comment by Anne — July 15, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

  2. Yes, I do, and have mentioned it before. I agree this is the ideal situation and you can either record or make a video of the visit. I know I would, I’d do it covertly too.

    Comment by dwpexamination — July 15, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

  3. Unless you can follow the DWP procedure (pro twin deck recording machine, dual copies, pro-calibration by professional immediately before starting recording etc) then it is *VITAL* if you are going to record the medical that it is done COVERTLY without the examiner knowing.

    If you can meet the DWP procedure (lets face it, who can, not anyone on benefits it would be *very* expensive for the equipment and hire of trained professionals) then fine, let them know your going to record.

    If not though, and your taping it with your own equipment, then DO NOT TELL THEM, DO NOT LET THEM KNOW ITS BEING RECORDED.

    If you do tell them, the examiner (as instructed in their guidance) will halt the medical, explain you cant, and tell the DWP you refused the medical.

    Your benefits will then be stopped, and YOU WILL NOT WIN AT APPEAL as someone else was already in that position and lost the appeal.

    So NEVER tell them if you are going to secretly record, do it secretly…

    Comment by ukbix — July 15, 2009 @ 7:13 pm

  4. What’s the best/most affordable method of doing this?

    Comment by corin — March 4, 2010 @ 11:23 am

  5. By using your vote tactically at local and general elections. Remember, both of the major parties ie labour and the tories have the disabled benefit claimant in thier sights. Vote with your feet and put someone into power who cares about those who through no faut of thier own are too il to work and who is willing to prosecute fraudsters to the full extent of the law. Its the only way to protect our rights.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 4, 2010 @ 11:58 pm

  6. Since i haven’t got any past present or future and nobody loves me,in this cruel heartless world, a love it when the government spies on me,makes me feel very impotent,hey a mean important..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by David — March 21, 2010 @ 6:49 pm

  7. Looked up Atos medical and just look up how many different businesses they into aparently they from france originally, the things some people had to go through at medical examination is against human rights… they also so DLA and my autistic child has been taken from higher rate dla to lower rate and thats to take me off carers allowance , but im ill myself but going back to my son, they told me he is streetwise, needs one hour care a day, and to stop his sleepwalking outside, to put extra than 2 dead locks on my door to get a key i can put under my pillow now i have to go got medical got letter saying if i didnt reply within 2 days of letter benefit stopped can you get through on phone have you read the complaints on the net about these people they cant be doctors ive waited 5months for appeal for my son 10 mths since they said he entitled to lower rate

    Comment by Rose — March 26, 2010 @ 12:03 am

  8. What party can you trust arent they all as bad as each other the country gone mad and against the british rights

    Comment by Rose — March 26, 2010 @ 12:10 am

  9. Streetwise? do they consider themselves to be social workers too now, how do they know what your son is capable of, and the idea of putting extra locka on the door! bloody proposterous? Our Human rights, and those of our children are being eroded on a daily basis by the likes of ATOS. Our present Government and the Tories intend to keep the pressure up whoever wins, so dont vote for either of them. Spread the word, tell your friends and family about your plight, we cant do anything except to vote with our feet, maybe when we take away thier toys and fiddles they may realise who actually has the power here. As I have said, write to your M.P. tell them every morbid detail of the degradation you and your son have gone through at the hands of ATOS and the DWP. Demand an investigation and then write every week if you do not receive a reply, its dead easy just write out one standard letter, save it on your computer and print it off every friday and post it to them. They will get sick before you do because they have to reply, make them work for thier money, I do.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 26, 2010 @ 12:20 am

  10. Just the other day I heard an interesting story. A friend of mine said a national organisation had moved onto his housing estate, thier remit is to provide advice and guidance to the indeginous poulation which is the equivalent of that offered to immigrants to the UK by our own social services. I forget what the organisation was called but will try to find out, anyway, the gist of the story is that anyone coming into the UK and who was not born here qualifies for help from Social Services immediately on gaining entry legal or otherwise. The Social Services then provide assistance with language via an interpretor, assistance with benefit claim forms and housing etc. The support continues beyond that untill the immigrant can support themselves. The arguement here is that this level of one to one help does not exist for the indiginous population of the UK. Now I am proud to be British, I was raised to be tolerant of other cultures and religions and to have resect for my fellow man. I am equally proud to say that I fight racism wherever it rears its ugly head and am more than willing to extend the hand of friendship to those who’s needs are greater than mine. What I am hearing here has undertones of something I call “refined racism” and I am worried about it, however, there is a point here which bears watching. That is, because the system is so bogged down by giving information and guidance to immigrants, the local British population is suffering. I dont know what to make of this and wil wait untill I have observed the situation before commenting further. As I say, its just an interesting story at present.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 26, 2010 @ 12:32 am

  11. They were slated in the American courts for bad practice!

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 26, 2010 @ 12:34 am

  12. Howdy all…And it was all started,by that twit Freud along with his sidekick Purnell….Haven’t seen a mugshot of Freudy yet…But av had a right good look at purnell’s…And by god…One wouldn’t get tired kicking that face of his..!!

    Comment by David — April 1, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

  13. I have been refused the names of DWP staff recently as they class this as “person information”. Surely there’s a public interest here? I asked under the FOI Act, but have been refused under the DPA200. What are my rights? Should I contact the FOI Commissioner?

    Comment by Pete — May 3, 2010 @ 5:44 pm

  14. I would persue the DWP and thier minions like ATOS to the very bitter end, as usual, they simply think you will give up at the first fence and go away. No retreat, no surrender.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 3, 2010 @ 10:17 pm

  15. Hmmm, not really helpful but thanks!

    Comment by Pete — May 3, 2010 @ 10:47 pm

  16. I have also learned that the so-called doctor who did the ATOS non-medical and lied about me, cannot be investigated by the General Medical Council! Why are the rights of benefit claimants trampled into the ground so mercilessly?

    Comment by Pete — May 3, 2010 @ 10:49 pm

  17. Unfortunately, we allowed this to happen. The only way to change the system is to get rid of the Government who put it in place on behalf of the electorate. Remember, the disabled community in the UK is in the minority, we are targeted and hounded by the press and T.V. where we are portrayed as scroungers, what chance are we expected to have? When politicians talk about benefits, they mean every benefit including pensions paid to people who have worked and paid for the over thier life time. They include every type of benefit in thier generalisation and attack the sick as they are the softest target. Let me say this, if we singled out the amount of sickness and disability benefits paid out at present it would pale into insignficance against the cost of unemployment, housing benefit and pensions. When you vote tomorrow, put your cross next to the representative you think best serves you as a disabled person/carer, its the only way. Forgive me for getting on my high horse, but the rights of the innocent victims of our own Government and thier enforcement arm ATOS are very close to my heart and I can no longer stand by and watch the basic human rights of disabled people being eroded then trampled into the dust. The reason the cardboard cut out “Doctor” can not be prosecuted is simple, he/she will be retired, will have had thier authorisation to practice revoked, resigned (jumped befoere they were pushed) and if you check on the GMC web site, they will not be sitting G.P.’s or on the registered G.P.’s list. ATOS know this and thus use it to thier advantage, however, take your complaint to the highest level you can, this costs ATOS money and time and above all eats into thier precious profit margin. The more we do this and the more ATOS see the same “Doctors” names coming up, with complaints against them time and time again, the more likely it is they will be dismissed as a liability and for costing ATOS more than the medical is worth.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 5, 2010 @ 7:13 am

  18. Maybe we should all complain to watchdog about the treatment ATOS hands out? Forcing you to do something that causes you pain when the leaflet they send you says they won’t. I say for what a GP is paid they should have to retire and be taken off the GMC register no later than their 70th birthday, those who quit to avoid been struck off by an investigation should have their name removed from the GMC register and if there is mystery in why they quit then that should be freely available for people to see on the relevant site.

    Comment by Dean — May 24, 2010 @ 10:35 pm

  19. I am shocked. I have lost my appeal and £1200 in the process. They barely gave me chance to explain my health and hardly mentioned how I was at the time of the decision but were obsessed with how I was now. The medical person on the panel, Dr Ford, was dead set against me from the start and said that obesity wasn’t even a medical condition! I checked in the welfare case law and apparently it is. She also was very dismissive about my depression and flippantly remarked that people still work with it. I have asked for a review of the decision before probably having to go to the upper tribunal. This means I have to learn benefit case law pretty damn fast. I’m at my wits end with it but I know that I was too ill to work and should be backdated. The tribunal didn’t award me one single point of the 6 I needed. This has been going on since late September 2009.

    Comment by pete — May 25, 2010 @ 1:09 am

  20. Were you represented at the Tribunal?

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 25, 2010 @ 7:04 am

  21. No I wasn’t represented.

    Comment by pete — May 25, 2010 @ 9:00 am

  22. How can I prove that I was unfit to work 7, 8 months ago? Do I just elaborate on how I remember I felt? And why is it that the facts of the case were wrong [the atos dr's lies] yet I’m not allowed to question these to the upper tribunal. It seems that the word of the claimant is disbeleived and the word of atos/dwp is seen as absolute truth. I’m not giving up though and will take the matter to the European Courts of Human Rights if necessary.

    Comment by pete — May 25, 2010 @ 9:04 am

  23. You need to be next time, contact your Local Authority Welfare Rights Team or the CAB.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 25, 2010 @ 5:13 pm

  24. That would be very interesting indeed.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 25, 2010 @ 5:14 pm

  25. I have been handing out a taste of their own medicine since I made the claim for ESA, every time I have to see ATOS the DWP, or if needs must a Tribunal then if I have to act as if it is my worst day then that is what I will do, so far very little acting as been needed as the medication is doing it for me, but ATOS need to be taken down a peg or two, assuming that you don’t fit into the category because they decide to write that in the report when any internet search for the side effects of your medication when you suspect it to be the cause can be quite revealing and getting an ATOS HCP to say that your medication doesn’t cause that side effect and make the mistake of putting it in their report can help a claimant greatly when at a tribunal all you may need is 3 points of suspicion to basically wipe out the whole or just about the whole report.

    I have just seen a sleep specialist today and he thinks although I have a minor problem most of my excessive sleep is down to medication. ANY BETS MY REPORT SAYS MY MEDICATION SHOULD BE CHANGED OR THEY WRITE TO THE GP ASKING HIM TO CHANGE IT WITHOUT THE SLEEPINESS SIDE EFFECT

    Comment by Dean — June 9, 2010 @ 2:01 pm

  26. can we not ask for a reporter/minutes taker to go in to the room instead of the recording stuff?
    in my eyes the sick note is the entitlement, so to send us here, there and every where is just harassment.(we the added value to their system)lol.
    if you got a sick note then atos say your ok, then your doctor should be struck off the register for malpractice surely ?

    atos is forcing people sorry humans in to slavery!

    in my claim i crossed out the bit that says I AGREE TO ANY COMPANY/DOCTOR and wrote i consent to my doctor only and then made them send a copy of my declaration back to clarify .

    i am still in dispute with them and have wrote and told them… i think they are in breach of contract and unlawful.

    we will see how it goes:-))

    Comment by helpmebefree — July 29, 2010 @ 3:49 pm

  27. You can take someone with you who can take notes, ATOS would probably stop the medical if they knew the person was a reported or legal rep cos they dont like fair play.

    Comment by dwpexamination — July 30, 2010 @ 11:06 am

  28. My doc requested a home visit, my mother and husband were here. We also gave the doc my formal diagnosis, which was ignored by the ATOS doctor.

    ATOS customer services advised me that I have to request my score sheet and written medical evidence from the DWP. I was advised that although the ATOS doc does the medical it is the DWP decision maker to decides ones fate.

    In receipt of the docs which I am awaiting, once received… if the ATOS doc has lied then it is possible to make a formal complaint to ATOS whereby the doc will be investigated.

    Comment by LJ — August 8, 2010 @ 10:09 am

  29. this is my letter im sending…………………… i will post the reply ……………………..

    Dear Mr Burke
    Thank you for the appointment you made for me on my behalf, however i have posted a 6 week sick note to the dwp. which, by law gives me my entitlement to benifit and i can not attend the appointment dated for 3.00pm on monday xxth xxx 2010 because im sick (for 6 weeks)
    if you want to insist on forcing me to attend this appointment and not recognising my sick note or the fact i’m sick, then i shall be holding my own doctor fully commercially liable for his mis diagnosing of me.
    i will also be pursuing mal practice, gross mis-conduct, mal administration, miss-diagnosal, corruption and getting a medical professional struck off .

    I have been with my own doctor from birth and i stand under his title and recognise him and him only as the man i consent to listen to my illness.

    i do not consent to any atos employees hearing of, or reading my personal data.

    when my sick note runs out i will be able to come see / contract with your company….but until then PLEASE LET ME LIVE IN PEACE and remember our basic human rights.(there yours also)

    what do you lot think??? might it work ??? well if it does or does not it’s better than bending over yet again and been bullied by the xxxxxxxxx

    Comment by helpmebefree — August 8, 2010 @ 10:22 am

  30. You must ring your local Jobcentre and request a copy of your medical report. They will try to fob you off by saying they have no access to the reports, this is true as you are likely to be dealing with a front line operative, be persistant and firm without being rude or shouting, insist you are put through to someone who does have accessto medical reports and demand a copy be sent to you. It is your right to have this and they can not deny you access to it. Once you have the report you should go through it with a fine tooth comb and highlight any inconsistancies, assumptions, fabrications and lies in that order. Take your time, do this over a number of days, if you get frustrated stop and come back to it later, more importantly, get in touch with your lLocal Authority Welfare Rights Officer or the C.A.B. Either will assist you but you must decide which organisation you want to work with. Wait for the DM to give you thier opinion and if it is a denial of benefits then follow the appeals process, request a gl24 or the ESA equivalent and write out your appeal. Remember you must only focus on the facts and when challenging the ATOS cardboard cut outs report you must have evidence to support what you are saying. Tribunals do not accept evidence from friends, families etc your evidence must be from your own GP or specialist. You can complain to ATOS about the “Doctor” or the examination. ATOS must investigate your complaint and will reply informing you it will take at least 20 days to do so. Do not give all of your reasons for complaining in the first letter, this will no doubt be ignored by ATOS, keep the pressure on by going into detail with your second letter, remember keep the pressure on both the DWP and ATOS. Check out the assessing atos page on this blog for an assessment form and above all a contacct form. It is essential that you keep accurate details of any contact with the DWP or ATOS for your tribunal. Visit our sister forum http://dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org where you will also find like minded people you can discuss your issues with and some useful letter temlates. Good luck and keep us posted

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 9, 2010 @ 9:52 am

  31. hi there,

    i’m currently in receipt of esa, after being dismissed from my post at jobcentre plus, for having 2 episodes of 6 kidney stones inside an 18 month period. I was referred to an examination/assesment by atos origin so they could assess my capability for work. i do not drive, and was forced to use the bus, which, having 3 kidney stones, one of which was pushing itself out at that time, and for the whole journey i was in extreme pain, which i have been for over 2 years now, anyone who has had kidney stones will know how this feels. the 100 yard walk from the bus stop to the medical centre took me nearly 2 hours of agony. I got to the medical centre and was in such pain the polish ‘doctor’ had to help me to my seat, and gave me anti spasmodic medication to help deal with the pain while we got through the interview. there was no examination, i was asked a series of questions about my kidney stones and how they were affecting me, which i answered truthfully. i was then free to leave and make my way back to the bus stop, where i had to be helped onto the bus by some passers by. i received a letter through my door from the benefits agency 2 days later saying i was fit for work, there was nothing wrong with me and that my benefits had been terminated.

    it took a 19 week appeal, with letters and phone calls from my doctor to have my claim for esa finally approved, with the appeal calling into question the methods used by atos and the whole examination/assessment process as being cursory and unfair. 8 weeks ago i was taken to hospital in severe pain with the last batch of kidney stones (numbered 10, 11 and 12), my right kidney sealed itself off, swelled to 3 times the size and was beginning to rupture. i nearly died. the traumatic experience has left me very weak, my body is still shedding the debris from where they had to cut away the blockage in my kidney, plus the pieces of the stones that were broken up by lasertripsy, my kidneys are chaining infection after infection, causing me strong pain in my arms, legs and lower back, it is affecting my sleep, my family life, my entire life. added to which, to deal with the pain of this i have been on dihydrocodeine for the last 2 and a half years to help deal with the pain, which my body has become very very used to, and does not like when i do not take it.

    imagine my joy when yesterday another esa50 form with its accompanying letter from atos origin telling me i am to go through their process again, and i do not doubt for a second that it is going to take another appeal, along with having my benefits suspended, and getting into even more debt and putting more strain on my marriage before it gets sorted out, and to be honest i’m not sure i have the strength to deal with it.

    i just thought i should share this, thank you for taking the time to read

    Comment by John McCullough — October 5, 2010 @ 10:43 am

  32. I’ve had a response from Atos about my complaint about their so-called doctor. I had my benefit stopped for almost a year in 2007 and 2009, and won both appeals. I have been made ill by Atos and DWP and Atos have now patronised me and said how they don’t make the decision to stop ebnefit. Erm, like I don’t already know that? I asked for some compensation to make up for the pain and suffering I endured and they accept that the “medical” was below their standards. However, they have said it’s not appropriate for them to give me any compensation, as their libelous report is not the only thing DWP use to make their decision. In other words, don’t blame us, blame them {DWP}, we’re just a profit-driven company with no interest in the harm we cause. Can anybody on this site help me take these bastards to task? Of course I have replied and told them I won’t rest until they take me seriously. Surely their must be some redress other than a feeble apology?
    http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by Pete — November 23, 2010 @ 2:43 am

  33. Take a look at your report or the DM’s decision, either should contain information on the evidence they used to reach thier decieion. If the only evidence the DM took into account is from ATOS then you could persue that with ATOS. Never give in, keep at them, the more work you get them to do the lower thier profit margin on your case is. Make F.O.I. requests for any information they and the DWP hold on you etc. Lets hit them where it hurts, in the pocket.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 23, 2010 @ 8:37 am

  34. Did anyone see that MP Grayling on the news? He said that the current system was working but needed improvement. This was in response to a report which criticised the Atos procedures. I think if we all refused to have these so-called medicals then the government would have to scrap it. Given that they want to make substantial cuts to public spending, I doubt it would be too hard for them to end their contract with Atos, worth billions. Especially as 40% of all appeals are won by claimants. Come on, everyone join with me and show them that they can’t get away with trampling all over us.

    Comment by Pete — November 25, 2010 @ 11:46 am

  35. The sad point about that kind of protest is that only we would suffer, ATOS would gain the most kudos and the DWP would say see, I told you they were all scroungers. I saw Greyling on TV, he said the report said the system was sound and there were a few small changes which would make it better. The report says different, I quote. “I do not believe that the system is broken or beyond repair. I am proposing a substantial series of recommendations to improve the fairness and effectiveness of the WCA”. If that is the definition of a sound system, then Greyling wants his head looking at.
    http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 26, 2010 @ 8:00 am

  36. Had the following by email from this site [rather than a public post]:

    “The sad point about that kind of protest is that only we would suffer, ATOS would gain the most kudos and the DWP would say see, I told you they were all scroungers. I saw Greyling on TV, he said the report said the system was sound and there were a few small changes which would make it better. The report says different, I quote. “I do not believe that the system is broken or beyond repair. I am proposing a substantial series of recommendations to improve the fairness and effectiveness of the WCA”. If that is the definition of a sound system, then Greyling wants his head looking at”.

    To be honest, that kind of passive attitude is just what they want. And aren’t we already suffering? I’ve spent almost 2 of the past 3 years fighting at appeal, both of which I won. I have told them that I won’t have another medical unless they compensate on the grounds that it could harm my health.

    Comment by Pete — November 26, 2010 @ 3:35 pm

  37. Hi Pete, first I replied as I always do via the blog, its there for everyone to see. Second I am far from passive, if you read the blog you will see that, third if you do protest by refusing to attend a medical then only you will suffer. ATOS will gain kudos as they will claim you are a scrounger, the DWP will gain fianacially as they will not be paying you sickness Benefit. I prefer to be sensible about the action taken in protest, its far more damaging to both the aforementioned parties to appeal a poor decision as you appear to have proved twice. I am a supporter of action which causes ATOS and the DWP financial pain as I feel that is all they understand. There are ways of tasking ATOS to task and winning compansation, they are just long winded and deliberately drawn out academic systems designed to grind the complainant down so they will give up. Please dont get me wrong, I can feel your fruastration and see your point perfectly, but I dont want you to suffer at the hands of these fools. It will be no skin off thier nose if they rid themselves of your claim, you become just another statistic.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 26, 2010 @ 5:28 pm

  38. Well I will not be giving up anytime soon. I am prepared to fight to the bitter end. I have nothing to lose. I have already won twice, so in effect the law is on my side, not theirs. If more people had my approach, researched the matter and persevered, then Atos would’ve been long gone. However, as usual, the average British approach is one of subservience and they just allow these power-crazed pen-pushers to trample on their human rights. Well not me, not ever.

    Comment by Pete — November 26, 2010 @ 7:20 pm

  39. Well done, We just need to carry on using thier own rules against them, though the Harrington report says that appeals are high because the WCA isnt working properly, they also intend to reduce appeals by alleged improvements.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 27, 2010 @ 10:30 am

  40. Bringing this page up to date…..I agree with all those who say fight them as long as you are mentally/physically capable of doing so. If not get someone to act on your behalf. No good having a breakdown though, as they would have won. Just support in ways which get the message across, without the stress. We can all play our part.
    Those who can; yes, lets fight the bullies as high as it goes, play their word games, prove their lies, use their own rules against them etc. Like other people, Ive fought the authoriative bullies before, on my own and without legal representation because I could not afford it. I won, which goes to prove our point. They may win some battles, but they will not win them all. They may hide behind their own authority, but there are more of us than them. The only way to deal with a bully, is stand up to them. There is safety in numbers! There are still more decent people on the planet who want what is good for all, than there are abusers of the system. We may be down but we are not out!

    Comment by rebelliousstreak — May 17, 2011 @ 12:28 am

  41. What if you are to ill or weak to fight the appeal like me. i will have to live on fresh air and will be homeless. i have worked all my life. and got ill its awfull, this is going to kill me. i am so weak.

    Comment by den — December 30, 2011 @ 1:32 am

  42. Hello den.

    You need to find the strength to compose an appeal or you will be left on your own, contact your local welfare rights office or CAB for help, you can get help here as well http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ don’t give in that’s what they (DWP) want you to do.

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 30, 2011 @ 10:33 am

  43. i been on the same journey as most of you came onto esa jan2011 and have been hounded constantly my crime was getting work related injuries passed 1st 2 so called medicals the 3rd complete zero was treated with utter contempt and distain he refused to copy mri scan results consultants letter gp letters made it quite clear he did not want to hear anything about my condition i knew had failed as soon as walked in door applied for dla they used esa denial to refuse dla in the end went to see MP explained how i was treated at the hands of atos and the dwp to my surprise got phone call off dla stating after another look at my case they decided to give me dla without appeal another phone call off MP stating my esa appeal will be heard soon my moral is push hard enough high enough and you may be in with a chance and yes the MP who helped me was conservative

    Comment by head56 — April 10, 2012 @ 12:24 pm


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