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Another horror story

 

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I recently received this horror story from a reader, it demonstrates the lengths ATOS will go to to meet their targets and what their alleged Doctors will do to ensure they get paid! I have removed some ( 2 sentences) of the text to protect the sender, otherwise the missive is as it was first written.
Ive been reading and taking advice from your web page and would like to give an overview of my recent medical.
Basic background of my case – diagnosed with breast cancer in mid 08,  lots of surgery late 08 which included lymph node removal.  Chemo and radiotherapy treatment, now hormone tablets and anti depressants.
I had my medical yesterday – what a nightmare. Arrived on time, kept in waiting room for 1 hr 15 mins, very busy! We were last in, I thought they had forgotten me as one guy had been there 3 hrs as they had forgotten to book him in !!
The questions are unreal – she checked all my medication, checked what treatment I had. Asked how I felt about returning to work, asked how I felt. I explained since filling in the form I am now on anti depressants and had a fall due to dizzy spell – this has caused cracked or broken ribs and severe pain and lymphoma in my right shoulder, arm and breast Surgery side. I can hardly lift my arm and live on painkillers at the mo. Also explained I have not even been given the all clear by my Oncologist since finishing rads in April. She then had me moving arms, head, legs, bending, grasping etc a lot of this I could not do due to pain or stiffness. Then the trick questions which I had been warned about!! They ask in a manner of conversation, as if they really are interested – what do you do to keep occupied, any hobbies? of course you cant say yes as they deem you able to move about, bend, use arms etc!! Also did I have a garden?? to check if you are able to bend, lift etc Do I enjoy cooking?? to see if you cope at home – it is a bloody insult but you have to play along with this. Asked how I get up stairs, cope with housework, getting dressed, bathing and washing hair – explained I wear a wig lol you should have seen her face lol.
I am now waiting for result and she said I may be asked to go back – over my dead body!! I finally left the building at 5:45, they locked the doors at 5;30 !! What a nightmare and insult that we have to go through this. I have worked all my life, never claimed sick pay or unemployment, I have the nerve to get cancer and am treated like a fraud!! Hubby had a go at the doctor along the lines of ‘why is it that anyone claiming benefit is treated like idiots or cattle and made to feel like the lowest of the low” ie waiting conditions and treatment by staff.
I am now awaiting the results and will let you all know. If they deem me fit for work I really don’t know how bad you have to be to qualify?? but I can assure you all I will appeal!! Sorry to rant but it makes me sooo angry.
There is one thing that is really bothering me.  I took the advice from your site and asked to read or have read back to me her notes, so I could correct any misinterpretation!  She refused on the grounds that she was not allowed and I can request the report after their decision.  Is this allowed or even legal? Hope you can help me on this.
Sounds typical of ATOS alleged Doctors method of operation. I wonder if your examination can legally continue after closing? might be worth taking legal advicethere. as for hinting that you may have to return for a second visit, does this indicate that the alleged Doctor knew she was breaking the law? or was she more worried that she will not get her fee for your examination? also, is the alleged Doctor admitting that she can not reach a decision after your first visit? if she is entitled to a second opinion, so are you. So I suggest if you are called back you seek legal representation well before going and ask if they (or their nominated representative) are prepared to accompany you. You never know, you might just have a sympathetic lawyer who thinks he or she can win the case.  As for reading their findings back, none of them want to be challenged and will likely as not refuse, they also know you are under extreme pressure and want to get out of there fast, they know that they have the psychological advantage here and use that against you. Its amazing how well planned their operation is and you miss it unless you take along hard look at what they are doing.
Thanks for your input I am sure other readers will benefit from it. Please let me know how you get on and above all I wish you well. Dont forget our sister forum at

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229 Comments »

  1. i recentlly attended one of these interviews.to put you in the picture i was in a road accident,suffered bad whiplash.the road accident aggravated other injuries i already had.ie 2 fractures in pelvis,2 fractures in right ankle,fracture in left shoulderblade,fracture in right wrist.spondilitus.i also have serious skingrafts and muscle loss in my upper left arm due to severe lacerations and tissue loss.however the atos healthcare professional awarded me 6 points for the entire interview.even though i could not walk without a crutch and have not had full use of my left arm for the last 14 years.the healthcare professional claimed i could put both hands above my head(Even though the muscle loss prohibits this with my left arm)that i carried a bag(even though the bag was tied to the crutch)that i did not bring my medication(even though in the bag was the medication)and i could sit and bend and do a squat and kneel down with no problem(even though im having treatment right at this moment for cartlidge damage,hence the crutch)and that i could walk 60 meters without aid. isnt a crutch an aid?(even though the waitin room at 5 ways b’ham is no longer than 80 feet and the dirty office is opposite the door you come out of.my doctor allowed me to see what they sent.it said that i should not be given a sick note as there is nothing wrong with me.my doctor said these people do not know anything and how on earth can a person like me go to work?the reply the dwp has sent me just about caused me to call them a bunch of fuckin nazis.it is full of inconsistences and has allowed the atos healthcare proffesional to add other things that are nothing to do with me.one question.”can sit stand,bend squat and kneel with no problem”.no points.”can walk unaided for 60 metres” no points.every other single area was awarded 0 points.and i realise that the atos healthcare professional is a lieing bastard.will let you know progress of tribunal.

    Comment by bill — July 11, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

  2. I recently had my medical by an ATOS practitioner nurse, after being kept waiting for 1.5 hours, the medical itself took all of 15 minutes and most of that was due to his two finger typing. I did complain about the waiting time as i had arrived 20 minutes before my appointment time, only to receive a letterstating they could not provide a reason for the delay due the the Data Protection Act!!! What a cop out!!

    On recipt of the medical questionnaire, which i requested, the responses had been manipulates (the ones i answered) and some of the questions i had not even been asked but the nurse took it upon himself to answer on my behalf.

    Mine is a mental health issue, been diagnosed by a psychatrist but the nurse overuled his decision, making a mockery of the profession of my qualified practitioner.

    I have been advised (unofficially) that 80% of claimants fail their medical but surely if this was carried out correctly then DWP would not have mounting costs dealing with appeals.

    Talk about a dictatorial government!!!

    Comment by May — August 13, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

  3. Yet another dissapointed ATOS customer, complain to ATOS, the DWP and the BMA. Its time these fools were told they have neither the right or the necessary skills to overturn a specialists diagnoisis. In fact I dont see how they can overturn any decision as they obviously dont have enough time to get to know the patient in the first instance. Its time this shambles was brought to an end.

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 13, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

  4. I had my ESA stopped few weeks before major surgery and still weeks after the surgery I still was not paid. The Dr at the ATOS put in what she wanted to say rather than what I had said. She left out my conditions or stated in her opinion what they were …mild bladder loss-i had full baldder loss-mild depression-i have had it since i was a teenager and am 45yrs and crying everyday up through the night crying and lots moreIS NOT MILD- more lots of evil stuff- and then knowing I am due surgery to remove certain things and a part of a major organ, she(HCP)ATOS states at the back of my assesment form- a recemendation to return to work within three months????? i did ask if she was a DR? but who knows does anyone ask for idenfication of these people assessing us? I cannot take the word of ATOS after recieving my letter of response from my complaint WHAT A LOAD OF LONG WINDED WORDS AND AVOIDING CERTAIN SERIOUS COMPALINT POINTS OR SMOOTHING AROUND MY POINTS OF COMPLAINTand trying to turn it onto me!!!!!. Untill the goverment is bought to task over these evil people and that would mean a huge march in london to 10 downing street, with the thousands of poor sick people who have been wrongly treated/and their money taken from them by the actions of the ATOS HCP then they will continue.

    Comment by Sandy — October 24, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

  5. Thanks for that S, and youre right, the only way to change the system is by people power. As I have said before, the Government reckons that there are 1.6 million claimants of sickness benefits, if this is the case its pretty simple to me, just demonstrate with your vote at the next election by voting for whoever promises to do away with ATOS or supports disabled people. It doesnt matter if you cant walk, talk, hear, or even move, you have the right to vote so use it. I am going to….. Good luck and I hope you appeal.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 24, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

  6. Hi all, I recently attended the DWP “Medical” by ATOS in Manchester, this I must admit was my first ever after receiving I.S for around 13 months. I underwent an operation in Jan 09 to repair badly damaged tendons in my right arm and shoulder after a serious car accident 12 months ago. I have worked since leaving school 16 years ago, and otherwise was fit and healthy. After the op in Jan, my tendons have been shortened and replaced within the bone, I have severe pain in the right arm and shoulder and find it difficult to maintain “Normal” movement and live off a diet of Morphine, Codeine and other meds. I explained this to the “Medical expert” from ATOS, he did a physical examination (Hold your arms out in front of you, OUCH, Twist them, OUCH), and not to mention the mental side of it, and the addiction to codeine after taking them for 18 months, that was 4 weeks ago, I have just been informed by the DWP by chance on a telephone convo that i did not score enough points, LOL. I have yet to receive the full report (Due anytime now) on how, why, what, when’s. I have already drafted my appeal letter. My Question is: Can I use an Expert Medical Witness (Namely an Orthopaedic Surgeon) exerts from a report I have obtained for litigation purposes to defend the decision?. This clearly states my injuries, and recovery time and a future prognosis.

    Thanks

    Comment by Mark — November 3, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

  7. Hi M, No surprises there then eh? It’s an awful thing to say but you must have to be near death to fail a DWP medical…….When you get your Tribunal date contact the local CAB or your local Authority for assistance with your appeal. They can give you much better and legally correct advice than I can. All I can say is I took every piece of relevant supporting information with me to my Tribunal, I did not need it, but I am sure it would have been invaluable if I found I was in a complex question and answer situation. Tribunals are only interested in factual information and will not accept heresay or unsubstantiated claims. So if you can provide expert opinons relating directly to you I would do so. Good luck, keep us in the picture and how about a description of the “medical” centre you went to, i.e. parking, how far from ther to the office, seating, spy cameras etc. It can only help, dont give any names or dates though, dont want you getting into trouble!!!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 4, 2009 @ 10:04 am

  8. I recieved my “Personal Capability Assessment” form through the post today, what a shock? I actually scored 0 points out of a possible 15. The section which was mostly directed at me (as I have a Shoulder/Arm disability) included lifting, carrying, and other task’s which arms are required for, and for which I have the most trouble with, I scored A BIG FAT 0, this is despite me telling the “So called Doctor” I have trouble lifting a small pan of liquid. Now what I have done today is spoken to my solicitor who is dealing with my compensation claim for my injuries after the car accident, and he has advised me to request the full report from the ATOS medical (Which is being sent today), he also instructed me to request a copy of the Medical Examiners “QUALIFICATIONS”, this does not breach any confidentialality laws, nor does it effect either data protection acts, my IB 50 form mentioned a problem in a specific area, in my case Upper Limb(s), the dwp advisor said this was the first time this has been requested, but it is legal and can be scrutinised or used in a tribunal case. (DING DONG)
    The ATOS office I attended was the Bridge st in Manchester, and as described on this website, is 100% as that person described. I will post again soon to update what happens.

    M

    Comment by mark — November 4, 2009 @ 3:06 pm

  9. I left work in May 2009 as I was suffering badly from an ongoing depression ( I have suffered with it as long as I can remember and regularly take medication) I also have alcohol dependence and Anxiety problems, I had my medical about 2 weeks ago, The doctor could hardly speak english and asked stupid questions such as what program do i like to watch on television!!! It was appalling and my friend could not believe that the doctor asked me such personal questions when he didnt know me. I then recieved the report and found i only got 6 points out of 15 as ‘ I could keep to a daily routine even though I over react to minor events and criticism’ I was shocked and upset at this, there was no mention of the fact i sometimes drink over 40 units of alcohol a week, i have difficulty sleeping, i am sometimes so tired i sleep all day, he also said i had no problems going to familiar places even tho my heart rate hits about 120 bpm when i go outside!! I dont know what else to do but have been told to appeal.

    Comment by Phil Stockill — November 26, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

  10. Thanks for that P, I think I would appeal on principle too. These alleged “Doctors” tend to ignore the obvious and focus on the things they can percieve you can do, rather then what your illness/disability prevents you from doing. Call your local jobcentre, ask for a copy of the report, read it carefully over a few days so your appeal is not a knee jerk reaction to it and then write your appeal. If you cant mnage this get someone you trust to help you or do it for you. Seek assistance from your loacl authority or the CAB. I wonder if they are following a strict administration process to “standardise” the “examination” and treat each case ” equally” how and why they can ask suplimentary questions (questions which do not appear in thier report at all or are not on the official administrative list of questions) so fluidly and yet are bound to select an answer from a drop down list to complete the form? We seem to have no chance…… time for a change I think.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 27, 2009 @ 8:26 am

  11. Any chance of everyone writing to the PM about all this, I hope GBrown does not get sick but then he will be covered unlike his poor sick people he is supposed to be looking out for.
    I have been made more ill since being put on ESA, with my children and them EVILS stopping my money few weeks before my sugery and weeks after it too, put me and the children into poverty- did the PM not set a policy to get children out of poverty? done the opposite to me.
    My children were worried sick about my surgery and i was worried sick about the money and running the home and would i survive the op.
    EVIL that is all i can say about ATOS and DWP they nearly pushed me over the edge and still on it.

    Comment by Sandy — December 7, 2009 @ 3:13 am

  12. We should, and be sure to demand an individual reply, not one of the standard letters they aend out. If anyone does write how about publishing the resulting reply on this blog?

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 7, 2009 @ 7:51 am

  13. Had a DWP medical over 2 months ago and failed. I got 10 points. I have COPD and on the day of the medical I was extremely ill. COPD means I struggle to breathe.
    My Incapacity Benefit was stopped just over a week after the medical and I have just received a copy of the medical report as I have appealed. I sent a letter from my Doctor with the appeal and a letter detailing the incosistencies with the points awarded and the information I have actually given.
    I have skimmed the medical report and had to put it down as I was getting more angry by the minute. I really do not know why they need us to go along to these so called medicals as they obviously put whatever answer they decide on without taking any notice of what is being said.
    Apparently my condition will improve within 6 months, COPD can only be controlled, there is no cure.
    As I said before I was having a particularly bad day on the day of the medical and was coughing a lot while I was trying to answer the questions being fired at me. The Doctor has stated that I coughed throughout the medical but stopped as soon as I left the room.How would he know what was happening when I left the room as he did not leave with me.
    He did not mention that I was reduced to tears or that I repeatedly told him that I was having difficulty coping because I felt so ill.
    I have spoken to Welfare Rights who will be representing me at my tribunal and was advised not to take things personally when I read the medical report. I was even told by a member of the job centre staff that the system was unfair and that the medicals were a farce.
    I cannot claim income support because my husband works and am not eligible to claim job seekers benefit as it is means tested but I would be uneasy claiming anyway because it is surely fraud to claim you are fit to work when you are not.
    I have spoken to several people who have given up and are not appealing because thay cannot cope with the stress and I understand totally why but I am determined to fight back.
    I would like someone to explain to me how being able to stand on one leg means I am fit to work a 40 hour week or am I just being dim!!!!!!!!
    I will be writing to my MP and asking for a written reply.
    My mam used to be a civil servant and she often talked about MP cases having to be given prority so maybe if MPs are inundated with complaints someone might eventually listen.

    Comment by carole — January 11, 2010 @ 12:17 am

  14. Excellent, please appeal, the more we highlight thier mistakes the more difficult it will become for them to be taken seriously. I think this sort of decision is dangerous and has an obviously disasterous effect on the lives of benefit claimants. As for inconsistancies, well, dont get me going there, I was given points which amounted to a begrudged single figure, at my appeal some months later this figure was increased tenfold, yes, magnified by ten. A huge victory and a slap in the face for the fool who allegedly “examined” me. Dont give up hope, go through your report one item at a time, mark those you see as downright lies first, then do assumptions then anything remaining. Take your time, ensure you challenge everything you need to (I had loads of items) and be precise, for example, provide any evidence you can confirming your condition, do as I do and keep a diary of your visits to hospital or your GP, provide a list of the medication and the amounts you take daily. Where the alleged “Doctor” has made an assumption or lied say you do not know how the “Doctor” arrived at this conclusion when your answer was completely different, dont call him a liar (This lowers your own standards) simply cast doubt upon his perception of the severity of your condition. Contact your M.P. and again keep a record of this, set a deadline for a reply and demand you are dealt with as an individual, refuse to accept a standard letter as a reply, question any obviously bland or grey answer. If you dont recieve a reply make sure you have a reminder ready to send on the day of your deadline. Remember, our M.P.’s allowed this to happen, they also need to know we are unhappy with the job they are doing and that this will be reflected at the next local or general election. Hit these fools in the pocket and they will jump, mark my words. Please let us know how you get on and a description of your local medical centre would be useful. Bear in mind when posting descriptoions of medical centres distance form parkingease of access etc I protect the anonimity of the sender.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 12, 2010 @ 9:16 am

  15. Thank you for your advice. Have just started to go through the medical report and highlight inconsistencies. Trying very hard to stay detached and not take it too personally.
    My medical was at Vinovium House Bishop Auckland County Durham. When I phoned to make the appointment I asked about parking as I knew that there is no public car park for the building. I parked in a shop car park which is about 200 metres from the building . There are 3/4 steps up to the building and a ramp. The doorman told me which floor to go to and the lift is just inside the entrance. I was extremely out of breath and coughing a lot when I went in. The receptionist was abrupt and when I apologised because I was coughing when I was trying to answer her questions she told me she had a bad cough as well!!! I was told in appointment letter to be there 10 minutes early. I waited for about 25 minutes for my appointment. Did look as I had been told there were cameras in waiting rooms but did not really know what to look for. The receptionist was not sat at the reception desk but at the back of the office. The person conducting my medical came out and called my name and walked me to the room. He repositioned my chair very carefully before I sat down and after had asked me to stand up to do “examination” very carefully moved the chair again. Big mistake I made was not taking someone with me as I have no witness to what was said. Receptionist sat in room while he did exam which I assume is standard practice. She was slouched in a chair straight in front of me with her cardigan wrapped round her staring at me. I have spent years employing and training staff and her manner was totally unprofessional. Was asked to leave the room with the receptionist who did an eye test in the corridor and then the Dr came out and asked me to go back to ther exam room as he had forgotten to ask some questions. As all the questions are on a computer how could he have forgotten to ask. Can only assume this was to watch me walk around. By this time I was totally exhausted. Best bit has to be when he finally said I could go he actually said he was sorry I was so ill and was glad I was getting treatment.

    Comment by carole — January 12, 2010 @ 3:30 pm

  16. Thanks for that C, First, remember, do not take this personally, they are doing this to everyone they see. Next did they ask you if the receptionost could be present during your “examination”? I would never allow that to happen, as far as I am concerned the “examination” is private and should be attended only by others by prearrangement. Do you know you can ask to be seen by a “Doctor” of the same gender? this prevents them having biased witnesses present at your examination and will eliminate those feelings of intimidation you had, if they have not offered this facility, raise the matter and challenge it. Make sure you ask for an adjustable chair, without wheels, ask for a Dr of the samer gender, ask them to remove the steps they have you climb to get onto the examination table as they are unnecessary and you know examination tables can be adjusted to suite the individual. No self respecting NHS Dr would ask a patient to climb 2 steps onto an examination table. If they trot out the excuse that the table is broken tell them it is unsafe and refuse to climb onto a piece of damaged equipment, this practice could be potentially dangerous especially if your balance or co-ordination is poor or you suffer vertigo. Make your requests in writing and staple it to your IB50 (top and bottom of the page so they cant say it got lost), by doing this you guarantee reciept and it makes it difficult for them to ignore your requests as they will want to ring you as soon as possible to get you in. Next time you go take someoone with you to make notes, they hate that especially if you ask about thier qualifications before the “examination” The DWP know you will be expecting the worst, and will panic so take your time, if you become frustrated whilst checking the report stop! and come back to it later, you will get ther in the end. Never attend another “examination” alone, I’m not. This is the first time I have heard of an eye test being performed let alone by a receptionist of all people, what gives them the right to do that, surely eye tests should be carried out by qualified opticians? how on earth would the average receptionist be able to interprate the results? That in itself is questionable. Also had the alleged “Doctor” informed you the “examination” was complete before calling you back in for further questions. if so I would challenge any comments he made during that time. Contact your local authority welfare rights team and seek thier assistance, I have found my welfare rights team really helpful. Remember ATOS are on the ropes, they can not get qualified real doctors to work for them and are training unqualified people to carry out “examinations” ask if the person you are dealing with is a qualified doctor, it comes in useful during any appeal you may have to go through as real Doctors are appalled by this practice. Thanks for the description of your torture medical centre I will add it to the medical centre page if you dont mind. Good luck, stay calm and focussed and let us know how you get on.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 13, 2010 @ 9:22 am

  17. Hi again, please feel free to add my description to the medical page.
    I was told he was going to get the receptionist. I was not asked permission. I was never offered a Dr of the same sex. I was not examined on a table. I was asked to stand up, bend over, stand on one leg and then sit back on the chair while he listened to my chest. I refused to do a peak flow test because I was coughing so much.
    I had made a mistake on my IB50 form when I filled in the part about the eye test which I pointed out to the Dr. (I am assuming he was qualified as he was using DR. as his title). He said that lots of people made the same mistake. Am assuming this is why I had the test but I was a bit confused as to why a receptionist did the test. I honestly cannot remember whether he told me the examination was over before I had to have the eye test but he must have turned the computer off because he called me back in telling me he had forgotten to ask a couple of questions and he scribbled notes on a piece of paper.
    I have just got paperwork from the tribunal today I can expect the case to be heard in APRIL.
    I have spoken to welfare rights and filled in the paperwork for them to represent me.
    I will never attend another examination without someone with me again.

    Comment by carole — January 13, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

  18. Well done C and thanks for supporting us by telling us your story. It sounds like you have been through hell with these idiots, make sure your representative knows every detail you can remember. Carry a scrap of paper and pen with you in case you remember anything you have previously forgotten about and write it down. The more information you can give to those assisting you including the Tribunal the better. Also be sure to tell the tribunal you were not offered the option of being examined by a “Doctor” of the same gender and the unprofessional way in which you entire “examination” was carried out. A receptionist!!!!!! indeed? Keep us informed, remember, the more first hand information we have, the better off we will be. The DWP hate blogs and web sites like this one as they highlight the inappropriate, inaccurate, irrisponsible, illegal and downright underhanded way in which they operate. The stress caused by the cessation of benefit payments to lone claimants and those who have families is cruel and uncalled for, this should not be allowed to continue. Spread the word about this and the other sites listed here, also ask your friends and relatives to think carefully where they put thier x at the next election, remember both the major parties want our heads, lets take thiers?

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 14, 2010 @ 8:26 am

  19. Thoroughly disgusting what I have read above I have asked for assessment at home as have post traumatic stress, depression, panick attacks and vertigo also a serious head injury with balance problems and hearing loss they told me to send in letter from GP to be seen at home, I did, and recieved date to attend an office, I been trying to ring now for 2 days every hour, get the automated voice and music cant get through to anyone to sort out this appt. We should all write to parliament we need someone to write this to,

    Comment by Rose — March 25, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

  20. You could start by writing to your M.P. telling him/her about the way in which you have been treated and the stress this whole epixode is causing you.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 25, 2010 @ 11:35 pm

  21. The same company Atos decide on DLA so now i realise why my youngest son who is autistic was after 11yrs taken from higher rate dla to lower rate, they said he was streetwise and only needed one hrs care a day and to stop his sleepwalking out on to the street to put extra locks on door this is a child who is totally distressed it his mother isnt around and by the way i have waited 5 mths for appeal date i think they should spy around the pubs clubs bingo halls and betting shops for the ones they should be taking off benefits not genuine cases what happened to human rights

    Comment by Rose — March 25, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

  22. Yeaterday i recieved a letter saying that i did not qualify for esa ??? i am having open heart surgery in two weeks time. these medical officers pushed me in the room asked what they deemed relevant and as quick as i entered i was exited. I have a condition that effects less than 1% of the population. I do not think the tick sheet asked whether i could swallow properly one of my syptoms of my congenital abnormality. the assesor said that my problem of feeling faint and having numbness of my arm when elevated could be resolved by not elevating it. ok i will start a job and when they ask me to lift something i have to refuse incase i pass out. who would employ me. ********* idiots, she might aswell as told me not to eat as this causes pain. they are a bunch of looneys i could do a better job by actually finding out the actual cause and not basing it on weather i can fully wipe my own back side. next time for us people who are genuinly in need of esa crawl in the office and say we need to burden the country with our need for 24 hour care based support. say everything hurts. they like ticking boxes i think. it has cause more stress on me now. no money for the kids when i go in hospital boucing bills etc. the esa are the cause of most peoples onset of depression.

    Comment by angry — March 31, 2010 @ 11:07 am

  23. Hello angry…Just a quick message,as far as am aware,according to the governments own guidelines,they MUST find you unfit for work,if you are going to have a MAJOR hospital operation within three months,it’s difficult to see how OPEN HEART SURGERY doesn’t fall in to that category,I also cant figure out any way they can get round that,thought I would mention it…..Good luck from David.

    Comment by David — March 31, 2010 @ 1:54 pm

  24. Hello Angry…Am away to make a cup of tea,because the more i think about what these bastards are doing to you…the more angrier im getting……………From David.

    Comment by David — March 31, 2010 @ 2:00 pm

  25. I think they are at thier worst when you dont fit the ticky boxes? the trouble is they are limited to a choice of 4 or 5 possible answers, this can not possibly work in the reral world and thus most peole who come into contact with ATOS find thier benefits suspended. The problem is that the information you give them is misinterprated by the cardboard cutout and twisted to meet the needs of thier academic process rather than reflecting the patients true state of health. Vote with your feet at the next election and help to keep both the present Government and the Tories out of No 10, its the only way we have of telling them they are wrong.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 31, 2010 @ 10:23 pm

  26. I think the political debates on TV have given the game away, ATOS is a government puppet, when the government want unemployment down stick everyone on ESA when they want ESA claimants down (help 1 million disabled & sick back to work) they get ATOS, who will be only too willing to obey their paymaster, to alter the assessment so you have no chance of getting ESA. The HCP normally has no idea about the illness you have, I think in 2008 at my assessment the HCP asked me what my illness was and immediately turned to the PC screen, possibly because she had no idea what it was. If asked what my conditions are this time I may after telling the HCP ask and if the HCP skips straight to the next question, I will say you haven’t answered my question and as I will have at least 1 person with me or 2 if they are not called in to work.

    ANGRY I feel sorry for you as 1 of my illnesses that is present from birth and quite often doesn’t show itself until your mid to late 20’s and in some cases is only found after death at an autopsy. Any rare illness that affects people in different ways from not at all to very severe the HCP will choose to say that the condition hardly affects you.
    I sometimes wonder if a coroner wheeled in a corpse that the HCP would write a report so the decision maker would find it fit for work even if the coroner slapped a death certificate on the table.

    Comment by Dean — April 27, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

  27. ATOS have got it wrong, of that there is little doubt. They are clearly working to achieve a Government target so they can reap the profit from thier actions. It would not be so bad if they actually carried out an assessment which considered the level of disability most claimants have. It is likely that it would be in thier own interest to do it this way as there would be less complaints, lower numbers going to appeal then to Tribunal and so on. The issue is that ATOS is populated by retired has beens, “Doctors” who have had thier authority to practice remoced and the dregs of the medical profession who have jumped before they were pushed. The vast majority of thier so called “Doctors” are arrogant, ignorant fools who are simply in it for money or revenge, what more do I need to say.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 28, 2010 @ 6:55 am

  28. The system is heavily weighted against the claimant, wheelchair users could be declared fit for work because they can answer a telephone, so can work in a call centre cold calling people at all hours of the day or night. Atos the DWP and tribunal staff (include the government in that, they are the head honcho) would and will say people are fit for work at any and every opportunity, it makes me wonder when the government will make prostitution legal so those confined to a bed with say M E will be declared fit for work because they can prostitute themselves, that way they get some more people off ESA onto JSA. Why do claimants have to apply to the DWP for a copy of the work of fiction, if the report is done while the claimant is there then why don’t ATOS just print a copy off for the claimant to take away with them if they want to? Maybe because the report the claimant receives is actually completed long after the claimant has left the building and maybe at home by the Gestapo agent, I mean HCP. My opinion on why they do not give you a copy while there is that someone who says they have a mental illness may attack the Gestapo agent if they were given the report and it contained lies, by making claimants apply to the DWP then by the time you get the report they hope you will have forgotten your replies or lost the written info you took at the interrogation.

    Comment by Dean — April 28, 2010 @ 10:52 am

  29. I suppose the real reason is a little more sinister! I believe that “examinations” are recorded and these recordings used later by the HCP to derive thier report safe in the knowledge you are out of the building. This is hinted at by the fact that the HCP will not go through the report at the end of the “examination” to check for inconsistancies, the main reason is, they dont exist at that time and have to be made up later, when you are gone. I too worry about the impact of the new work capability assessment and how that will affect people who are currently on benefits. Maybe there is scope for an argument in law, afterall, if someone is judged to be unfit for work by the Government in 2010, then in 2012, with the same disability they are declared fit! Maybe the decision can be overturned as it would appear that the Government lap dogs at ATOS are contradicting thier original prognosis and by doing so may well endanger the lives of disabled people by forcing them, prematurely back into work whilst still unfit under the previous PCA.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 28, 2010 @ 11:19 am

  30. That is one thing I wouldn’t put past them, as in my 2008 assessment it looked to me like the assessor was just hitting any old key and she was very keen to keep my sight of the keyboard obscured, plus she hit the keys with the speed of a touch typist, how many medically qualified people have the skills to touch type at a very fast pace? None that I know of, so your opinion that ATOS either record the audio or use video with sound is probably correct, I would go with video recording as they will be looking for anything they can to get a fit for work diagnosis. The WCA I cannot wait for just let them put a pen or pencil on the floor and ask me to pick it up, they will be told in no uncertain terms where to go, I wouldn’t be surprised if you told them that it caused you severe pain to do it so won’t do it they write refused to do whatever they asked you to do. I believe there maybe something in the human rights laws about it maybe ARTICLE 3 THE PROHIBITION OF TORTURE?

    http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-human-rights-act/the-convention-rights/article-3-prohibition-on-torture.html

    After all even asking you to do something that will cause you pain, I don’t know how to put this, they ask you to do something , you know it causes you severe pain and want to refuse telling them it will cause severe pain, but do what is asked putting up with the pain and it clearly shows on your face and because you put up with the pain they write can pick up a pen/pencil from floor. So ATOS torture claimants by making them feel or think that refusing to do what they are been asked to do will get the ESA stopped. IMO I think many who falsely claim disability benefits do so by saying that it causes them severe pain to do what is been asked of them. Are those conducting the WCA taught to scare claimants into doing, or trying to do, things that causes them severe pain IN MY OPINION I THINK THEY ARE.

    Comment by Dean — April 28, 2010 @ 2:17 pm

  31. Interesting point, and something I am keen to explore further. I believe they are bound by the same rules other Doctors are and even though they may not have taken the hypocratic oath, they must first do no harm as that is accepted in law.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 28, 2010 @ 10:47 pm

  32. i went to one of these medical exams 4 months ago at five ways in b,ham. it was the third time that i had been called in in 9 years.i have depression and spinal injuries which make it hard to walk and move about most of the time.the dr asked all sorts of questons about my history.i dont no what happened in there but after asking me a list of questons for about half a hour,he looked at me and said why r u here i can c that u are in pain and that u havent understood half the questons that i have asked u at all.he went on to say that i was in a world of my own and that i made him feel uneasy.because i kept stairing at him all the time.2 weeks later i got a pass of 15 points.all i did was tell the truth about myself.

    Comment by dave — May 13, 2010 @ 11:58 am

  33. I just found this http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatosmedicalreport.html it is an ATOS medical report NOTICE NEAR THE TOP THERE IS NEARLY 15 MINUTES BETWEEN THE END OF THE EXAMINATION AND THE REPORT BEEN COMPLETED. What needed to be added to the report after the person had left that took nearly 15 minutes to complete?

    Comment by Dean — May 17, 2010 @ 1:26 pm

  34. Yes, its common prcatice, I am sure our won G.P.’s do the same after we leave the surgery.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 18, 2010 @ 7:08 am

  35. Remember after submitting your ESA50 form you can and should ask for the medical justification in writing that a face to face assessment is necessary. Point out that you may want to ask the GMC to review the medical justification. The contract between the DWP and Atos is clear in respect of medical conditions that mean a face to face assessment is not necessary. An Atos appointment clerk will hound you. Be polite and just email Atos asking for the name of the medical advisor and the medical justification. Avoid the phone use email. You have a full record of your correspondence.

    Even if a face to face assessment is deemed necessary there are certain medical conditions listed in the contract for which the assessment must be carried out by a specialist in the particular medical condition or the medical advisor MUST contact your GP and or Consultant. If travel to the assessment centre is adding to your stress point this out in an email and insist on a domicillary visit (Atos will visit you at home). When they arrive check they have specialist knowledge in your medical condition. I have heard of a number of instances where the health care professional has backed off at this point because if carried out the assessment this would constitute an assult. You report them to the GMC and they would be in danger of being struck off. After the assessment make sure you get a copy and that it was carried out by a “qualified” as defined by the contract.

    I amd terminally ill and have published my on going experience in full on http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatos.html, when I have the strength. Feel free to copy and use the information there in any way that is helpful to you. I include the important parts of the contract. I know you are ill and there is a lot there maybe a friend or carer or citizens advice can use the information here. I do not know why the DWP does not enforce the contract withe Atos.

    I just received another 100 GBP for Atos the first part of the compensation I am expecting from them for being in breach of the contract between the DWP and Atos. When you have sufficient evidence this may be a NAO or Police matter. Is there undue influence between Atos and certain individuals in the DWP?

    Comment by Mike Bach — May 25, 2010 @ 11:48 am

  36. I forgot to say that if you are denied an allowance, the stress of this can make your medical condition get worse. Ask for a reassessment? If like me you can’t write anymore the DWP will complete your ESA50 for you and send you a copy for you to approve. Remember they do not have access to your medical history and they are believed to be rewarded when they reduce the allowances that are paid out. Insist that the allowance is paid while investigations or reassessment is ongoing.

    Comment by Mike Bach — May 25, 2010 @ 12:36 pm

  37. I have medical assessment nxt week and after reading all the comments and experiences on this blog has freaked me out….I am not looking forward to it at all.I had worked for the past 36 years up until 3 years ago when I was made redundant through no fault of mine, my life has been rock bottom since.I was claiming JSA up until few months ago as the jobcentre made my life unbearable ( made me feel like a scrounger ) having contributed all my life to give me benefit that I had paid into unlike some. I became very ill with depression, suffer with anxiety too, any jobs I applied for were rejected due to my age I also suffer with IBS which effects my everyday life. Since been on ESA all I have had is more worries and stress and now the medical examination.Worry causes my IBS to be worse I just wish someone at DWP would assess claimant on their work history too and not tarr genuine people with the same brush as people who are cheating the benefit system.

    Comment by Aruna — October 19, 2010 @ 9:43 am

  38. Welcome to our rapidly growing community of ATOS victims, If you take a look at the other pages on the blog you will see you are not alone, this is the most important thing to remember. Atos and the DWP are not attacking you, though that’s whet they want you to think, they tar everyone with the same brush. Take someone with you, someone you can trust. Ask them to take notes of the proceedings, the ATOS cardboard cut out will not like it and will try to put you off by saying you cant use your notes at any tribunal or in any court. Don’t worry, just carry on regardless, its your right to take notes, take a close look at the alleged “Doctor” though, those little tell tale beads of sweat on his upper lip and his figiting will conform you have hit a major nerve. They hate it when you have a witness who is taking notes. To make your life a little easier I have produced an assessment form on the assessing ATOS page, this form will allow your companion to score the building, “Doctor” receptionist, parking etc and will serve as an aid to your memory when you are writing out your appeal. The DWP usually wait a month or so before they stop your benefits and the letter usually arrives the day before or on the day your benefits are due, for maximum impact. This is a terror tactic they use, they know that the majority of benefit claimants rely on their payments being in the bank or on their doorstep on time, they also know that the worry of not being able to pay rent, council tax and to buy food is a great motivator to get you to reclaim on jobseekers allowance. On the assessing ATOS page you will also find a useful contact form, print some of these off and keep them near the phone. It is essential that you gather the information the form asks you to and that you make a written record of your conversation, it helps throw them if you tell them you will be making a record of the conversation, they hate that. No doubt you are aware of the help available from your Local Authority Welfare Rights Office and the C.A.B. It is essential that you seek assistance from one or the other and particularly as a representative at your tribunal. ATOS and the DWP see themselves as judge, jury and executioner untill you take the upper hand. Fight them all the way, when you are at your tribunal come across as a credible witness, don’t shout, swear or act aggressively toward them, they are in a position to help you. Why not register with our sister forum, its free and is available to you at http://dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org where you will find loads of people in the same boat, loads of good advice and support and above all a feeling of belonging, rather than that the DWP try to create.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 20, 2010 @ 6:45 am

  39. Today is my assessment, taking a friend with me but have been very worried,stressed all week. My IBS is bad today don’t like unknown places or people because of my condition so haven’t been able to eat incase it makes my tummy worse.
    Can’t wait to be over.Going to Highgate centre don’t know what to expect.

    Comment by Aruna — October 28, 2010 @ 11:47 am

  40. Try to remain calm, print off the assessment form on the assessing ATOS page of this blog, get your friend to make notes about your visit. They will tell you your notes will not be accepted as evidence in court or at a tribunal, tell them thats fine and continue. From now on make notes of any conversations you have with ATOS or the DWP, there is also a contact form on the assessing ATOS page, print a few off and keep them by the phone. Remember its your right to make notes. Call your local JC+ tomorrowe and demand a copy of your report, you are also entitled to a copy, they will try to put you off, be polite but firm and ask to speak to someone who can help you. There are loads of people in the same position here and at ur sister forum http://www.dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org we are here to listemn and learn from your experience, any nformation on the location, parking, access to and details of the building woulfd be welcmed. The more information we have the better, good luck and keep us informed of your progress.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 29, 2010 @ 9:18 am

  41. What a nightmare!!! I got there 10 mins before my appointment,Rang the bell to be let in by a recorded msg, had to go up the stairs, it felt very eerie, cold and unwelcoming.
    At the reception there was a man who seemed pleasant enough, so I said I had appt, asked me to fill in a form with my details and asked for my ID….I had taken 3 as suggested in the letter as I didn’t want to carry my passport to unknown area.I took one out and that’s all he asked for and told me to take a seat, the waiting area was big and empty by this stag my nervous were really bad.After about 15 mins the receptionist said the practioner has my file and will be seen shortly.
    About 20 mins later a young girl called me, I said this is my friend so she said to my friend if she would like to wait in the waiting room to which I said I rather she came in with me, the look on her face said it all that she wasn’t happy.She introduced herself as a qualified physiotherapist….my thoughts were maybe she was assessing me on my physical incapability due to back and knees problems and than will see a dr about my severe IBS and depression, but she did it all in half hour typing eveything I said and few bending movements as an examination.
    I was upset talking about my IBS and depression and she even gave me a tissue and said she understood how I felt.I told her I have councilling appointment and offered to show her the letter to which she said she don’t need to see it, as she believes me obviously not doing her job properly.I am on anti-depressant which I took she just had a quick look at them and other medication I am on for severe IBS attack.
    After the few mins examination was told that’s it, She said she was going to e-mail DWP what I have said and they will decide, I asked her if I can have a copy of the report to which she said I have to ask my Jobcentre.
    Yesterday (2/11/10) received ESA65 saying my score out of 15 was 0 and I am no longer entiled to ESA no other letter to as and when or how to appeal.
    The boxes ticked on how they arrived at the decision was
    The questionnaire I filled recently and the reportof my medical assessment.
    Medical information from my GP not ticked so I assume they did not contact my GP.
    I am seeing my GP in a while to find out if they had contacted him.
    How can a physiotherapist assess someone with depression and IBS??
    I am going to appeal as I still have 2 more weeks on the medical certificate and am having councilling through my GP….how do I go about it any help would be appreciated.
    I am so stressed.

    Comment by Aruna — November 4, 2010 @ 9:24 am

  42. Oh the form says If I am unemployed I should go on Jobseekers, don’t know what to do.
    I am more stressed on what to do now which doesn’t help my IBS,anxiety and depression.

    Comment by Aruna — November 4, 2010 @ 9:42 am

  43. To obtain a copy of my medical assessment report it says on the ESA65 form I have to write to them, but no address on this form….I had a councilling session yesterday and took the form with me as was very upset, and taking with me to show my GP.

    Comment by Aruna — November 4, 2010 @ 9:49 am

  44. I have had sever deppression for years i wached my dad beat my mum she turnd to alcohal then left my dad and got into drugs i am menely scard by the things i have seen. if the dwp would just leve me alone and let me get better but thay dont with the constent forms and interviews and sick lines.
    with the stress of my medical comeing up i forgot to get a sick line now i have no money for food gas ect i dont know how much more i can take

    Comment by stacey — November 4, 2010 @ 11:52 am

  45. Welcome to our growing community, first thing to remember is that you are not alone. From what you say you have your medical report, contact your local Jobcentreplus and ask for a GL24 appeal form, also tell them you want to claim the assessment rate as you are appealing thier decision. Please note, you must follow JC+ procedures, you will not be allowed to short circuit thier academic system and will have to jump through the hoops. While you are waiting for this to arrive go through your report with a fine tooth comb, identify any inconsistencies, assumptions, fabrications and lies, mark them and once you have completed that task, check it again. You must word your challenge carefully and use the terminology they have in thier descriptors. Challenge each of the comments you have identified individually and say why you think the HCP is mistaken in thier opinion. Anything you challenge should ideally be backed up by evidence from your GP, Specialist, Physiotherapist, Psychiatrist etc. Make your appeal directly to the Decision Maker. When the Decision Maker replies then you must decide on what action to take, if all is well and he finds for you then your Benefits will be restored. If he doesnt, then you need help. Contact your Local Authority Welfare Rights Officer or the CAB, you must decide which you will work with as they can not work together, they will guide you through the appeal maze and support you along the way. Be aware, the process is long and drawn out. Good luck and keep us posted, also why not join our sister forum at http://www.dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org where you will find other like minded people in similar situations, loads of support and information on the tactics used by ATOS and the DWP.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 4, 2010 @ 1:46 pm

  46. Welcome to our world “S” as I have said many times, remember, you are not alone. Check out the blog and our sister forum http://www.dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org where you will findother people in similar situations to your own, loads of support and information on the tactics used by ATOS and the DWP.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 4, 2010 @ 1:48 pm

  47. I still haven’t rec’d official letter from DWP on when my ESA has stopped from or if I am entitled to appealand the procedure (only form ESA65), I saw my GP after receiving this form, they had not had any contact from DWP or ATOS regarding my health issues prior to my medical assessment and ATOS have made the decision based on half hour assessment without a dr’s ( only a physiotherapist).The only notification my GP has rec’d was to say I was fit for work.I still have 2 weeks sick note and have 6 other councelling appointments so really confused now on how am I suppose to live without any benefits and cannot go on JSA,Haven’t started the appeal process,what can I do until the appeal process is going through for money.I have to write for the medical assessment report as well….so stressed out as all this is not helping my health.

    Comment by Aruna — November 7, 2010 @ 11:23 am

  48. Try ringing your local jobcentreplus and demanding a copy, be polite but firm and be prepared to be put off. This is standard practice, just stay with it, be polite and ask to be ut through to someone who can provide a copy of your report. Remember its your right to have access to it. Whilst you are on the phone ask them what you are expected to claim if you can not claim the “assessment” rate.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 7, 2010 @ 3:38 pm

  49. I still haven’t rec’d a letter from them as stated on ESA65 form which was dated 2/11/10 about the decision or appeal procedure.
    I went to my local advice centre,they have written a letter requesting medical assessment report and that I wish to appealing agaist their decision.I have been advised to get a letter from my GP, and councillor to back up my appeal and go back to them where they will help me with filling in the form GL24 i think…..so stressed out today, have one month to send my appeal, so have to try an get appointment again to see my GP.

    Comment by Aruna — November 8, 2010 @ 6:39 pm

  50. I have just read the papers ( Wagner who is on Xfactor is on Incapacity Benefit getting £97.40 despite informing DWP still getting it ) I am absolutly fuming that DWP and ATOS put genuine ppl who are on incapacity benefit hard time and stop their benefits immediatly after the ATOS assessment.How comes he hasn’t been to one of those assessments, don’t blame him but the benefit system.I am appealing and going through stress and worry on top of my illness, of how I am going to survive in the mean time as the only amount I was getting of £65.45 nothing else at all after working for 36 years of my life and paid my taxes and NI contributions have been stopped……where is the justice for ppl like us? very unfair.

    Comment by Aruna — November 17, 2010 @ 12:54 pm

  51. Its people like him who give honest, decent disabled people a bad rep. I bet the press make a meal of it.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 18, 2010 @ 12:57 pm

  52. I managed to send off my appeal last week tue 23/11 after waiting for 2 weeks for my medical assessment report from DWP as I had only few days left for the appeal,since than I have rec’d the report what can I do now although I have mentioned all the points which were overlooked on the ESA65 score points (5 pages), dr’s report,medical note,counsellers report, copies of ESA 50 for etc.

    Comment by Anonymous — November 29, 2010 @ 10:01 am

  53. I have two broken legs. I have had a rod put in one and screws in the other. I am fit for work apparently!….. I am a builder by trade, how can they think i will be able to work like this? In my medical they gave me 6 points, this was given because i can only stand/walk for less than 30 mins before i need to rest. In my medical report it says i can walk over 200 meters unaided?! How? I was in a wheel chair for three weeks and can just about walk using crutches now, but not very far before i need to stop from the pain. I have no source of income and they have just stopped my ESA outright, no warning, no valid reasons. Even the doctors have given me a sick note for at least another month and have said I cant work. Dont get me wrong I WANT to work, ive been a hard worker all my life but this is ridiculous! How can they say that i am able to earn a living when i would be laughed off a building site if i tried to go back to work??! So angry, the system seems to be aimed at helping people not willing to work not those who want to but physically cant.

    Comment by Anonymous — December 15, 2010 @ 7:52 pm

  54. Welcome to our world anon, this is why this blog and ur sister forum at ://www.dwexamination.myfreeforum.org exists. The general public are being fed misleading information about the disabled, we are labeled as being welfare benefit scroungers and other derogatory terms by the press, who in turn are fed the information by the Government. Unless you have been in the system, you dont understand what it is like and how difficuklt it is to get Benefits whilst you are too sick to work. I suggest you take a look at our forul for information on the appeals process, you must appeal or ATOS gain credence and declare you a scrounger. There is a wealth of information here and on the forum. Dont give in, its a long drawn out process but dont stress yourself too much if you can. You will find everyone here is in a similar situation to yourself and more than willing to help you with your appeal.

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 16, 2010 @ 8:11 am

  55. I was an Australian disabled pensioner prior to returning to the UK permenantly in nov 2008. in feb 2009 i applide for and was granted ESA at the assessment rate abt mid 2009, this was cut off numerous times by various DWP personel ( i have some lovely fiction written abt me on official letters) and finally by ATOS. I suffer from chronic back pain, IBS a hiatus hernia and am totally deaf all caused by work related accidents during my 35 yr working life. i appealed and was granted the 15 points needed with the help of CAB on the basis of my hearing problem alone, i did query the tribunal abt why no points for my other injuries and was told 15 is what you need and 15 is what we gave. On the 2 oct DWP again cut my benifit citing late return of a self assesment which is incorrect and there is only their word but they did put me back on at the reduced rate. Atos then carried out another medical assesment late oct and yesterday (4/01/2011) i received a letter that i no longer qualify as i only have 9 points on the basis of my hearing problem. so it seems Altos can overide any tribunal findings even though they know you have the points awarded legally and yes i showed the so called doctor as i did try to show him my swollen leg caused by agrivation of my back by travelling to the examination. none of which was taken any notice of. Atos are a proffesional NO orginisation and the DWP are struggling to keep up with the appeals generated and this is exactly what they want so you give up, unfortunately for most of us theres only one thing to give up isnt there

    Comment by Eric — January 5, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  56. ive gone through 2 years of tormement from these people, the terroist dont have to bomb us. they work for and are sanctioned by the DWP and ATOS. give us all sticks and we’ll detect IUD’s. we will be appreciated and have respect then

    Comment by Eric — January 5, 2011 @ 4:14 pm

  57. Remember you are not alone, check out our sister forum http://www.dwexamination.myfreeforum.org its free to join and you will find many people in a similar situation to yourself. We need your support to change the system

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 5, 2011 @ 5:53 pm

  58. After I read post #55 I became livid due to the A’TOSsers apparent sour grapes ‘war of attrition’ being utilised in their ongoing persecution of the ill and disabled i.e.

    “in feb 2009 i applide for and was granted ESA at the assessment rate abt mid 2009,…”
    “i appealed and was granted the 15 points needed with the help of CAB on the basis of my hearing problem alone,…”
    “Atos then carried out another medical assesment late oct and yesterday (4/01/2011) i received a letter that i no longer qualify as i only have 9 points on the basis of my hearing problem. so it seems Altos can overide any tribunal findings even though they know you have the points awarded legally and yes i showed the so called doctor…”

    I’d heard about the imaginary wheelchair which the “HCP” can visualise to assess whether someone can “mobilise” for 50 metres, could they be also imagining hearing aids and cochlear implants as well now! If this be the case then where will it end, imaginary Hawkins-mobiles for paraplegics to use to go and sign on for their JSA?

    Comment by Loan Ranger — February 2, 2011 @ 2:54 pm

  59. Oops, no edits allowed. Hawkins-mobiles should be “Hawking-mobile”

    Comment by Loan Ranger — February 2, 2011 @ 3:00 pm

  60. I’lll look into that, you should be ableto edit before you post?

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 3, 2011 @ 10:03 am

  61. I hope you are appealing, if you are on esa ask to be paid at the lower rate when you do. Also check out our sister forum at http://www.dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org its free and you will find many people like yourself there. The members have also posted some useful information on appealing and templates for letters of complaint. Good luck and keep us posted.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 3, 2011 @ 10:05 am

  62. Re: Point 52.

    RE my appeal I had a letter from DWP Attached to it was (Secretary of state’s response 12 pages) agreeing with ATOS and given 0 point and copies of all my appeal paperwork I had forwarded to them.
    I am totally confused to what happens now…..the letter says they have sent a copy of the information and my appeal letter to the Tribunal Service, they will get in touch with me to explain what happens next with my appeal.My medical certificare runs out on the 21/2/11, my GP has given me another one do I forward it to DWP as not sure what happens now……will try and get some advice fron the local advice centre but there times are so limited due to cut backs so cannot always get to see anyone.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 20, 2011 @ 9:56 am

  63. The Tribunals service will contact you, you will be asked if you can take a short notice appointment, dont as this may prevent your case being supported by your welfare rights officer (ring your local council office, they will put you through or provide a contact no)who may not be able to attend at short notice. if you havnt engaged a wro please do so immediately, they will assist you with the process and support you on the day providing they have a rep free. Next call your local JC+ and ask to be put on the assessment rate whilst you are in the appeals process. It is highy unlikely you will get any money if you dont. You need to act quickly now, do this on Monday, do not wait. Keep us posted on your progress. check ut our sister forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/index.php where you will find loads of imformation and meet other people in a similar position.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 20, 2011 @ 4:45 pm

  64. Thank you for the information,I will act on Mon.
    I have further 2 months certificate from my GP do I need to forward it to DWP also my GP has agreed to write me another letter to support my appeal….which I am able to pick it up on Wed but don’t know if it will help my case.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 20, 2011 @ 10:40 pm

  65. I have been referred by my local advice centre to Law centre and someone is going to get in touch with me I guess ( WRO )If someone is available to accompany me they would do so. I am not looking forward to Tribunal on my own as I suffer from anxiety which triggers off my IBS and am already worried about it on what to expect, I have been told that I can opt out and let them decide with my case history due to my anxiety and IBS so will have to decide.Also Tribunal will be sending me a questionnaire to fill which has to be returned within 14 days on which I can say if I can attend.Just have to wait and see……will keep you posted, Its so awful that genuine ppl have to go through to get benefit that they are entitled to and have payed into all their life,when unable to work due to no fault of theirs, I have worked all my life (36 years) until last few years ago due to redundancy which has caused me the worry, stress ans anxiety of trying to survive, as there are no jobs lot of employers are ageist and lot of ppl unemployed.

    Comment by Anonymous — February 22, 2011 @ 10:07 am

  66. Keep us posted

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 24, 2011 @ 8:43 pm

  67. Re update on my tribunal hearing no 65.
    I was referred to by my local advice centre to law centre (WRO) they have sent my GP a questionnair asking about my medical condition pending on the report they would decide whether they could represent me or not.In the meantime my GP has told them there would be a charge of £70.50 to complete which I would have to pay as law centre has not got any funds to cover the cost.
    Can this be right? I get £65.45 a week ESA only whilst I am appealing, where is the justice in this?……without his report I won’t have a case, it seems like I will be giving him my weeks ESA+£5.Can anyone advice me on what to do? I have left a note for my GP as won’t be able to get an appointment for few weeks.
    To me rich are getting richer ( dr’s earn a good salary ) and poorer gets poorer like myself when being ill and struggling to survive.

    Comment by Anonymous — March 18, 2011 @ 11:33 am

  68. Re. Comment by Anonymous — March 18, 2011 @ 11:33 am

    Sadly, this kind of work (e.g. writing a letter or answering a questionnaire) falls outside of the Doctors’ NHS remuneration, therefore it’s considered as being chargeable “private work” when a patient requests their Dr to do it.
    Sometimes the charges problem can be circumvented e.g. an alcoholic friend wanting their HB to be paid direct to the landlord was asked by the council to get a Doctor’s letter as supporting evidence. I wrote back to the council explaining the prohibitive cost (£30 or more) and said that they should contact the GP themselves for the evidence. I don’t know if the council actually did ask my friend’s GP, but the HB direct to landlord was accepted. This is not any help to you or I if the Tribunal can’t be persuaded to seek medical info themselves re. cases.
    I’ll have my transfer from IB to ESA sometime in the future to contend with and probably find myself in the situation of fighting the A’tos’sers disability denial factory sham WCA report. Sometimes this prospect depresses me so much that I can’t function and have suicidal ideation.

    I wish I could come up with a better answer – sorry for your (our) plight. Regards, LR.

    Comment by Loan Ranger — March 18, 2011 @ 2:22 pm

  69. Thanks for your msg!!! Please Please Please don’t even have that thought on your mind, there is someone out there who will be on our side if you believe in it and stay positive and don’t let them make you weak.
    I left a note for my GP regarding the charge yesterday morning re my circumstances as he is well aware of it and to my surprise I had a call from his secretary lunch time saying he said to pay £10.00, so I felt someone has listened to my plea and sure there are many out there who would if we try and ask.
    Try and stay positive, I know its difficult as I feel up and down too but feel when I think positive thoughts things seem to get better.Take care and good luck and keep posted on here you are not alone.

    Comment by Anonymous — March 19, 2011 @ 10:05 am

  70. My GP has given me a very basic medical report which doesn’t cover even fraction of my day to day problems ( which he is aware of )as he reduced the charge for the report I have no backup of my medical evidence……don’t know what to do, also I have opted for paper hearing as oral hearing can take for ever, don’t know how long can I take all this stress.what is the right decision I don’t know as my WRO is pressing me to attend.I suffer with anxiety and severe IBS which triggers off when I am anxious.

    Comment by Anonymous — March 23, 2011 @ 1:19 pm

  71. Hello Anonymous.

    You say your WRO is pressing you to attend ? does that mean he/she wants you to re-apply for an oral hearing ?
    If that’s the case then agree, because you need to try and stall for time, and that time will be well spent in arranging an appointment with your GP again for the purpose of a proper medical report.

    A reduced charge from your GP in return for an inadequate medical report to present to the tribunal especially a paper hearing is out of the question.

    If money is tight (and if on benefits, what else could it be) then you could apply for legal aid via your nearest money advice or law centre.

    The monetery help from the state via the legal aid system is obviously to pay the GP etc.
    I was wondering why your WRO isn’t telling you this information, this is all basic stuff ?.

    Yes the welfare rights, ATOS, your GP, all those little DWP workers and Decision makers…the whole lot, they all want paid !!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 23, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

  72. I had to keave my job at a school in December I was suffering from Anxiety and depressing because of traumatics events involving special needs children. I made a claim for ESA I knew that I probably would not be entitled to payments because if a small shortfall in my NI contributions in 2008, but no one could tell me whether my NI would be creditted. It took 2 e-mailsto Ministers office in London and 3 letters to my DWP office to attain this information.
    I was went to a medical as I could not asceratin whether I should or shouldnt go-(because I wasnt not getting payments)- I paid £10 for a doctors letter and attached to the therapists letter- The “nurse” deemed me fit for work- Totally ignored the therapists comments and gave me 6 points.Its absolutely scandalous. I was knocked back that it knocked me back weeks and Therapist has bad to built me back up again.
    Im lucky that my husband is working and is supporting me, but I feel very sorry that the are doing this to people who are very ill and have no support.
    The money that my husband and I have paid in taxes and NI has done nothing when we need.
    I really find it breathtaking that the government get away with this- There seems nothing that can be done to highlight the plight of people.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 10, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

  73. You paid your taxes and national insurance contributions, and therefore entitled to ESA without problems, and deserve better than that, what happened to you is a scandal, sadly all to common all over Britain, we report ATOS/DWP malpractice, whilst unbelievably the truth is being covered up by the so called democratic media.
    We are fighting these people daily on our sister site http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/index.php We will never give in to this corruption, click on the link, pick a user name and join the fight against these miscreants.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 10, 2011 @ 7:29 pm

  74. I’M not going to give you a long statement as to my ill health, just to say that if you don’t tell them every thing about your health and even if you do they do as they please
    The person who gave me an assement ignored every thing.I got no points alotted to me from the nurse
    just stated that I was fit to work
    I have a blue badge issued to me after an examination from the local Authority not just my doctor
    I was attending pathways to work but not alocated any V/work due to the way I am.
    For the appeal,I got all my medical records from the doctor ( cost me £50)and sorted them in order. I showed all the revelant stuff to the triburnal.I went to the tribunal and won my case .
    so please dont give up, Appeal even if your suffer from word blindness ( as you can tell by the mistakes in this letter I do )
    I have won compensation and They the D.W.P.got their monies back.
    Hope this helps some one out there who thinks dont bother and let them get away with not giving you what we are intitled to

    Comment by I got it with hard work — June 3, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

  75. Good work, everyone should appeal, so make that small effort and get help http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/index.php and appeal and let them away with nothing.
    The DWP decision makers and ATOS are criminals, they know what they are doing is not just morally wrong but actual criminal acts, just because they have the backing and go ahead from this crooked Government doesn’t make what they have been doing to disabled and ill people right.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 3, 2011 @ 6:27 pm

  76. Its a disgusting country we live in. Not right that we the sufferers should have to be put on trial like this and try to prove our inocence to these so called doctors arrgh makes me so angry. Yes, wouldnt life would be lovely if we were all free from pain, mentally or phiscally but instead we are made to feel like we are guilty !!! Guity of what??? Being ill???? oh yeah thats right . SICK SICK SICK!! The government are scum and we should fight against them!!!! start a protest outside downing street….why the fuck not

    Comment by Laura — August 27, 2011 @ 3:23 am

  77. A protest outside Downing street sounds just the thing Laura, with thousands of anti-Government expletives thrown in for good measure, one problem though is the logistics of such an operation and the cost, then there’s the little matter of the journey time to go there.
    Perhaps you were meaning let’s get something done instead of burying our heads in the sand and hope they might go away on their own initiative ?.
    We have started a while back with the forum, ATOS tried to shut it down, by using their legal department, but we just came right back with a new site which is not under British law Laura, the new forum is under Icelandic law, and in case you don’t know that means the Government can go eat jack shit.
    So click on later when it’s fully operational and let’s whack these barbarians http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 27, 2011 @ 8:11 am

  78. There is something very wrong with our country when people who have worked here, paid their dues and then have to fight for benefits when genuinely very ill,whilst others new to our country get benefits thrown at them, you should not have to ‘,jump through hoops,’ to get what you are entitled to for such as cancer and other illnesses which will only get worse,it is to be deplored that you should not automatically be given disability payments and that the authorities are not more help.

    Comment by wendy — August 28, 2011 @ 7:11 am

  79. Hi Wendy.

    You are correct, but nothing will change unless we demand they change and not ask, that’s just one of the reasons why we are fighting them here on the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ we demand this dreadful Government stop persecuting people who are ill.

    They (ATOS) tried to ban the forum by using British law, the forum is now under the jurisdiction of Iceland law, which means the British Government (Let’s face it that’s what it means) can go eat chop suey.

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 28, 2011 @ 11:03 am

  80. Thinking back to Callous Camerons Big Society Speech,the penny has finaly dropped he meant perfect….whats happening now to GENUINE ill/disabled people is almost like an ethnic cleansing…He is inhuman!!! to think he had a disabled child himself you would think he might have some compassion….people are dying ,because of these unacceptable cruel rules.He and his henchmen know that and its obviously being swept under the red carpet…….

    Comment by Anonymous — September 20, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

  81. Happening now ? it’s been happening for years, have you just heard about it now ? there’s some web-sites who are making an effort to do something about it, like this one http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ and there’s others out there, have a look and take your pick, so which one are you going to support..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 21, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  82. been for medical today due to having c o p d dr was nice and polite but didnt know what fevs were even though written in my medical from lung specalist makes you think im waiting now for results

    Comment by Anonymous — September 21, 2011 @ 11:08 pm

  83. He didn’t know what fevs were because he’s a diddy, he wont know anything about anything, like 99% of ATOS Drs, these so called Drs are nothing but a joke, what Dr would take a job ticking boxes ? one becomes a Dr to help people and try to improve their health, not take a job to make their health worse.

    I’m afraid you are almost certainly going to receive bad news, but hey that’s what they are there for, to deny you your legal rights and therefore deny you your right to benefits, they will tell you don’t worry…because you can sign on for Job seekers allowance now that their Dr has found you fit for work.

    So get prepared to appeal now, and get advice here at the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ how to appeal. what form to get to submit the appeal, what money you can apply for while waiting for the appeal to be heard and so on, forewarned is forearmed. (PS) They are all nice and polite now, because they have been warned that ATOS healthcare do not want to hear complaints etc).

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 22, 2011 @ 9:03 am

  84. [...] has been to discover just how long it has been going on. A fairly recent example at DWP Examination ‘Another Horror Story’ has comments spanning over two years from July 2009 to September 2011. Each time the story is [...]

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  85. Hello all, I,m so sorry for you all its bad enough being ill & in pain/distress,& then to have this hanging over your heads, I expect to be called soon.I have 8 diagnosed health problems .basically i,m up s creek without a paddle. of course i,ll be passed as fit for work by one of thses nazi like morons , but I,ve read all through & I know what to do .I will definately appeal..& find a way to take legal action against the ones that have caused all this ter.rible stress.To be honest I did feel suicidal ,but i,ve decided to give myself one more chance because you know why..its not my poxy fault that i,m unwell!!!.Just want to finish with some important advice as it might help someone..long story cut very short..man with cancer ,diabetic.too ill to attend so after a fraught couple of weeks Atos agreed a home visit. first thing, the ill man asked the :doctor :if he,d like to sit down on the sofa..the :doctor: said no..have you got a stool because I prefer to be above the person i,m talking to…second…:doctor : says i need to do a lung function test .but he had left it in his car. he went to get it …tried it once but it wasnt working & then chucked it on the chair…both major no no,s…he was passed as fit for work . benefits were stopped without warning…they then recieved a very stiff letter outlining everything…mnot only was his benefit reinstated he also got a letter of apology….its true ,i,ve seen it…Blast em out! dont let them do it to you…love to everyone…be strong ..I found my strengths from reading all your letters…..I,m not frightened anymore..they are just ill informed stuffed shirts…camerons boot lickers. does anyone know about the new cruel benefit rules for those with cancer? it sems well hidden?wonder why?

    Comment by anna — September 24, 2011 @ 11:45 pm

  86. If you are found fit for work as you say Anna you can appeal, it’s grim but not the end of the world, at least the assessment rate is available while you wait for the appeal to be heard, and all the help you need is available here on the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ your story about the man with cancer is typical of ATOS healthcare, and they will stoop to any level to get their bonus.
    Yes it’s true they get a bonus for every person they find fit for work, although they and the DWP have been denying it for years, absolutely despicable…!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 25, 2011 @ 3:58 am

  87. Thankyou,..I was just thinking & getting quite upset really.because of the way society is,I know there are some good people out there but lets face it , its mostly a i,m alright jack society, so really its like disabled/ill,people are having to fight this disgusting governments plans for us single handed & being taken advantage of the fact that we are most likely too ill/weak to fight back most of the time , so would,nt it be great & hold much more needed power if able bodied well people really got to grips and spoke up for us..I see bits here & there in papers but it soon gets swallowed up by another story ,I,m getting wise to that one also though, its like the new cruel rules on cancer sufferers,I,m hard pressed to find that item now?its like theres another story to take the spotlight off whats really going on…what nasty old cameron is really up to…this is why i asked if anyone had heard anything about it……life is full of shocks & surprises…not always good..someones life can change for the worse in the blink of an eye,.with that in mind , please can able bodied people help us.,..the consequences of this heartless government will be dreadful if they are allowed to go ahead with their horrific plans.pease please help.

    Comment by anna — September 25, 2011 @ 4:48 pm

  88. Unfortunately people are not interested unless it’s happening to them, and that’s why the Government can get away with introducing these sly rules and laws.
    The only people then as far as welfare reform is concerned and who will make a difference is us, and that’s why the forums exist, we need every person to join us on the forum and become aware of where the country is heading with regard to welfare reform, who and what UNUM is and what this horrible company is going to do to us if we don’t stop them.

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 25, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

  89. Just re read my posts on here starting Jan 2010. In January this year I was referred back to a specialist after a fight with my Dr. I wanted more medical evidence after my appeal was refused as my benefits advice officer had appealed to the high court to have the tribunals case overturned. The Dr was not happy but referred me. Turns out that I have lung cancer. Had half of my left lung removed in March. This should have been diagnosed over 4 years ago when a scan showed a shadow on my lung but the specialist decided it was nothing sinister! My case has finally been heard in the high court and the tribunals decision overturned. I now have to go through another tribunal but guess what. WE CAN NOT ADMIT NEW EVIDENCE. I fully intend to send in copies of my medical reports anyway as I can not see how it is not relevant that I had undiagnosed cancer at the time of the first tribunal and when I had my ATOS “medical.” If this appeal is successful I will get back payments of incapacity benefit. I am now on ESA which was granted without the need for medical. Of course this will not last. No doubt I will be hauled in by ATOS again and we will start the fight again.

    Comment by Anonymous — September 25, 2011 @ 8:57 pm

  90. Obviously you will win the appeal, and you may wonder why they go to all that trouble with someone who is so incapable of work ? well it’s hard to believe but they actually hope you will give up and go away and leave them alone, and sign on for job seekers because you can’t stand the stress any more.
    Well that’s one thing you should never even consider under any circumstances, hang on win the appeal and beat them you can get all the help with the appeal here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 25, 2011 @ 9:29 pm

  91. Dear Anonymous, I think the way you,ve been treated is absolutely terrible.,I admire that you are still going to submit medical evidence,even though some twit somewhere says you can,t…its like they are saying you dont count & its not important , but it is very important & you certainly do count. I wonder did you ever receive an apology off of the as so called specialist? I wish you well,..& I agree with dwpexamination…I think you will suceed this time,but nothing will ever make up for the stress they,ve all put you through….you,ve been very brave in spite of how you,ve been treated & its to your credit that theres not an ounce of bitterness in your message.

    Comment by anna — September 25, 2011 @ 10:09 pm

  92. Thank you for the link. will be useful as I am going to sort all the paperwork today and make an appointment with my GP and ask him for a supporting letter for the tribunal.
    Anna, the specialist who finally diagnosed me told me that the original specialist has retired. My new specialist asks me every time I see him if I am going to sue the NHS. I can not see the point in spending years fighting with them. If I had not failed at my tribunal I would never have insisted on seeing another specialist and I would probably be dead now so I just hang on to the thought that they may have put me through hell with ATOS medicals and tribunals but at least I am still here and fighting.
    Hopefully my next tribunal will be successful. It is quite interesting that the judge in the high court ripped the original ATOS report to pieces in his judgement and that I was given a date for new tribunal the same day that I received the High Court papers.
    One interesting point about ESA for the lady who had not paid enough NI contributions, if you pay the shortfall you are entitled to ESA. They omit to tell you this when they refuse your claim. Just ask the befits office how many payments you are short, phone your tax office and pay them and you can get your benefit. They pay you from 6 weeks after you have paid your back contributions.

    Comment by Carole — September 26, 2011 @ 9:32 am

  93. That’s right Carole, a DWP dirty trick, they send you a letter stating you are not entitled to contributory ESA because you haven’t paid enough stamps, but deliberately omit to tell you that you can claim for income related ESA.
    The way they word the letter is to give the impression that you are not entitled to anything other than Job seekers allowance.

    DIRTY SWINE.

    Anyway on that link to the forum is the gateway to all the information you need to appeal and win. http://www.dwpexamination.org

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 26, 2011 @ 10:19 am

  94. No if you pay your back contributions ie the amount of stamp payments you have missed you can claim CONTRIBUTARY ESA from 6 weeks after your payments are up to date.

    Comment by Carole — September 26, 2011 @ 10:32 am

  95. Is it just me? or does anyone else feel like this country is being run by Nazi,s???/ They had no heart , no soul , no feelings for any human being that was,nt quite perfect…same kind of thing isnt it., sorry i,m a deep thinker.but i cannot find other words suitable for such a bunch of morons that have lied like theres no tomorrow ,then created a sense of false security,then use extreme intimidation & bullying..,while constantly questionly the integrity of genuinely ill/disabled people,.questioning consultants,specialists[incidently why dont these proffessionals speak up for themselves ? dont they care that all their hard work ,tests , scans , diagnosis,some taking years . now means sweet F all?.are they happy to be discredited like that?what was the point of them then?…wasnt that a waste of money?why dont they speak up for us?.why dont they defend themselves? I,m so sorry i,m having a really bad day today more than usual,everytime the post arrives ,i cry,..I feel like,as i,m sure everyone whos unwell does,that its a nice day, i can see people walking past,they look happy ..i,m glad about that,a lot of them are very young they have no idea whats in store for them from this DISGUSTING government…no jobs , no nhs.no care , no nothing,,simply because they didnt come from stock like cameron & crew…nothing will ever make these cruel morons nice people though , nothing at all.,I think the new rules on cancer patients was the last straw….even if that were turned around ,its the most despicable thing that anyone in government has ever done…..hope it goes back on them….

    Comment by anna — September 29, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

  96. No it’s not just you there’s thousands of us, problem is co-ordination, that’s right getting all those thousands upon thousands to speak as one, we are doing it here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org more will join us shortly, once they get it in to their skulls that this hell is never going to end and that these people are seriously trying to hurt us.
    If we say nothing, we can only look forward to that hell, but you and others can stand up for yourselves and help by visiting the forum.

    By the way…Baroness Murphy (who has never been hungry in her life, or ever been homeless) says she sees nothing wrong with repeated assessments, assessments are good for you she says. BARONESS MURPHY IS A JOKER AND A SERIOUS WASTE OF OXYGEN AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED.

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 29, 2011 @ 4:40 pm

  97. I,M THRILLED TO HEAR BARONESS MURPHY SEE,S NOTHING WRONG WITH REPEATED ASSESSMENTS, BUT FEEL SAD AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THIS OBVIOUSLY WEALTHY PERSON IS PROBABLY UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT SHE IS INVINSIBLE,WRONG!!! NO ONE IS EXEMPT FROM WHAT LIFE HAS IS STORE FOR US,,,THATS WHERE WE ARE ALL DEFINATELY EQUAL.,ANYONES LIFE CAN CHANGE IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE,THROUGH ILLNESS,/,ACCIDENT.,MAYBE THIS COLD INDIVIDUAL IS RUNNING WITH THE PACK, TRYING TO IMPRESS THE OTHER SHEEP….ANOTHER FRIGHTENING EXAMPLE OF NAZI LIKE BEHAVIOUR……..COME ON DOCTORS,SPEAK UP FOR US,YOU ARE BEING DISCREDITED ON A DAILY BASIS………

    Comment by anna — September 29, 2011 @ 9:55 pm

  98. Hello, I claim IS for myself and my partner, I have bipolar effective disorder 1 and my partner has chronic pain syndrome, my partner has had her form, I filled it in as she can not and she has been for her interview with Atos, 9 weeks on she has not had a decision regarding her interview, this is the first part of our problem, the second part is 8 weeks ago the DWP phoned me to check my details, my name, NI number, and informed me that they would send a form out for me to fill myself, on Friday just gone I received the form from Atos, now here is the issue, I changed my name by change of name deed over three years ago, changed all my benefits over to my current name, passport, driving licence, disability, everything like the deed by law states I sent the DWP my change of name deed 3 years ago because it states on there that I have to use my new name in all corresponding public and private in any paperwork, they changed all my benefits over to my assumed name to which all my letters for the last three years have been in that name, my benefit claim is in my deed name, the letter the DWP sent me saying they were contacting me about the change in benefits was sent to my correct name, the letter Atos sent me with the form to fill in was in my previous name asking for that name to provide details on my disability, I do not receive any NHS treatment or benefits under the name atos have asked for, and my deed says I am not legally obliged to answer the DWP or anyone working for the DWP because of the deed, in my previous name at all, I am very confused and do not know who to contact, what do I do i could lose my benefits because of this massive mistake by them?

    Comment by jamesfinch01 — October 30, 2011 @ 7:28 am

  99. Re (65) Good news I won my paper tribunal hearing and have been awarded 18 points,don’t give up people…..still don’t know what happens from now on with ESA as not received anything from DWP, my GP has been supportive all through out the process.
    This forum has given me lots of support…its worth fighting for our rights, I did not choose to be made redundant after working 36 years and becoming ill with no prospects of finding any decent job at 57 when young people are struggling to find work.

    Comment by Anonymous — November 9, 2011 @ 10:28 am

  100. It won my appeal 3 weeks ago after welfare rights applied to the high court to overturn the first appeal decision. It has taken 2 years. I phoned the DWP yesterday because I had not heard anything. Nothing had been done. They asked me some questions over the phone. This is normally done by sending you a form in the post…which had not been sent yet. Phone them and ask them what happens next then your case will come off the bottom of the pile.

    My appeal was as awful as the first one. They had not received the new evidence that had been submitted. The Dr. was aggressive and insulting and I just cried. I was trying to tell him what had happened since the last appeal. He talked over me. I said that I had gone back to see a specialist and was told that day they were almost certain I had lung cancer. The Dr leaned across the table and sneered “but it wasn’t cancer was it” I said yes it was and he replied “so what kind of lung cancer was it then.” By this time I was totally confused because we had sent them all the medical reports plus a detailed Dr’s letter. I pulled the new evidence out of my papers and told him the exact diagnosis. At this point the Judge asked to see the papers and having read them she apologised and said that my appeal was being granted. I was asked to go outside while they dealt with the paperwork. On going back in the Judge apologised again but the Dr never even looked at me. I came home and sobbed for several hours.
    I only hope these Drs who sit in judgement on these panels treat their patients with more respect and understanding.

    Comment by Carole — November 9, 2011 @ 12:18 pm

  101. Good to see you have won your appeal Carole, and I understand what you mean regarding the Drs on these panels, some of them unfortunately work or have worked for private health firms and as you can see that’s a conflict of interest. What a creep HE was..!!
    Anyway, they are not going to go away, so be prepared for the next round and be better prepared the next time, we can help here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 9, 2011 @ 3:07 pm

  102. Hello Anon.

    It can take a while before you hear from the DWP if you win an appeal, so try and be patient (no pun intended) you will get whats owed in due time, they like to torture people you know.
    Anyway, be aware that they will call you back to ATOS for another test in the not to distant future, but that means you can be even better prepared (forewarned, forearmed) help is available here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 9, 2011 @ 3:12 pm

  103. An OVERDOSE, Suicidal Thoughts, Depression, Homelessness – and yes, then there’s the ’causes’ of all of this; the failure of my viable business by a ‘failed’ government scheme, and the loss of my homes as a direct result of the previous failings that led to my deep depression – leading to SUICIDAL thoughts.

    One would have thought that such a diverse range of complicated, and Serious conditions would of had the UNDERSTANDING and SUPPORT from JCP/DWP. But, following a Medical Examination at ATOS, DWP STOPPED my ESA Benefit – sending my thoughts much DEEPER into SUICIDE!!

    My Legal Aid Solicitor di NOTHING but said they will wait for 10-months to represent me at the Independant Tribunal. APPALLING!! I, in my VULNERABLE state, wrote a 5-page letter to Terry Moran, Chief Executive of JCP, and since my efforts, JCP have now OVERTURNED the decision. Their minimal compensation will not do. I am seeking Legal Advice on the matter!

    Comment by IAS — November 26, 2011 @ 3:16 pm

  104. Hello IAS.

    You have every right to be angry, what they are doing to genuinely ill people like yourself is appalling, we are trying to highlight this nonsense to everyone here at the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ this is our best way in hitting back as a group and not as a bunch of disjointed individuals.
    Well done on speaking up for yourself and not giving up, it’s amazing what we can do if we put our minds to it..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 26, 2011 @ 3:58 pm

  105. Wow, this is a massive list of unhappy people… which I’m going to add to. I have had in a claim for ESA since June when I finished University. While there I suffered badly with depression and anxiety but being stubborn I wanted to finish my degree, primarily because I was doing it with my best friend and the only reason I could attend lectures was because she picked me up from home and went in with me every day. I haven’t really been diagnosed with one disorder, my counsellor believes I have PTSD, my CBT Therapist seems to agree, the ‘nurse’ from my ESA assessment seems to think I have sod all wrong with me. I’ll give you a mini rundown, I was attacked when I was 15, then got involved with someone who turned out to be a psychopathic paedophile who blackmailed, severely abused, kidnapped and eventually tried to kill me… forgive me if I’m a bit on edge but looks like according to everyone I should be over this by now (even though he was still stalking up until a year ago and the whole ordeal has been going on now for nearly 8 years! I digress. The nurse at the assessment sounds similar to others’ again I got asked stupid questions like what TV programmes do you watch, in my notes it stated I owned a cockatiel what bearing that has is anyones guess. I also liked the fact that she noted I wasn’t sitting shaking, and that I looked like I could wash myself. Yes I can take care of myself, that doesn’t mean I’m not suffering.

    Then we have my GP… good old GP, or not as the case may be. Apparently, if I can do a degree I can work, I might be anxious but I have to just ‘take the bull by the horns’ and get a job because ‘everyones nervous on their first day I mean don’t you [me] think I [Dr] was nervous you just have to get over it’ Sound advice! So my Dr is now stopping my sick notes because he basically thinks I’m lazy/a fraud or however you want to put it and as of Jan I’m on JSA. I still can’t leave the house but my GP did suggest I find someone to take me to work every day (yes because it’s really that simple). I get panic attacks in a work situation, can’t breathe properly I get dizzy, sickness. The thought of going to work every day terrifies me. My Dr refuses to put me on long term sick, I’m not asking for that I’m just asking for some help while I get myself better. I’m totally mentally and physically drained from the last few years trying to hold it together while really wondering if I would be better off dead, and the treatment from the Dr and the DWP has only made these feelings worse. Maybe if I take an overdose they might actually understand? Though I tried that once before and the GP basically said ‘well what the hell did you do that for’ in a voice that made me feel like a total idiot. I spoke to Citizens Advice who are getting a tribunal sorted which my CBT therapist and counsellor are supporting but without the support from my Dr I see little point.

    Comment by Olivia — December 6, 2011 @ 10:41 am

  106. Hello Olivia.

    Can you change your GP ? I know it’s not so simple it just depends if you are in a city or the countryside. If you can change your GP do it and ask your new GP for a full medical examination, then get legal aid, they will contact the GP on your behalf and request a medical report, I know someone who has already done this due to the GPs biased attitude.
    You must appeal, it’s your right and will take at least six months or more to be heard so that gives plenty of time to get the report together, of course you do not have to mention to the tribunal you changed your GP, they will not know and will assume its the GP you always go too.
    You can get lots of help here at the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 6, 2011 @ 4:28 pm

  107. ATOS medical care told lies about me. I fell over a paving slab whilst going to work in 2008. broked 2 bones in my right thumb and ligament. had a repair done. to cut a long story short 2010 lost my job. had depression, ligament op un succesfull. MAY this year medcal ass which fail, appeal failed and trinbunl 24 th nov failed. Aug this year thumb fused also arthritis in both hands. cant write and before anyone says you can type. NO it takes me some time. could not do it 8 hours a day. taken medication which makes me sleepy because of pain anti depressants tablets. CANT GET JOBSEEKERS BECAUSE I AM STILL UNDER DOCTOR AND HOSPITAL. Have tried harming my self, which i know is stupid. but not getting any money and not been able to pay bills.

    Comment by trisha chambers — December 7, 2011 @ 2:58 pm

  108. Hello Trisha.

    You had the assessment in may, when did the DWP say you were fit for work ? because from that date until six months have passed then you can apply for ESA again stating the reason as a worsening of your condition.
    In other words you do not need to sign on, you can apply for ESA as long as six months have passed from the time the DWP informed you that you did not have limited capability for work. The only stipulation being you have to send in a sick note (fit note) you can get some information to help here as well. http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 7, 2011 @ 6:37 pm

  109. I did consider seeing another GP in the practice but I was scared they might go back to my current one and cause problems. I changed surgeries about 2-3 years ago from the one I had been with since birth because they had no female Drs so I’m not sure I can swap again. I’m a bit scared they might still think I’m fine, I don’t feel it but maybe they are right and I’m just wasting time or something I don’t know anymore. I’ll take a look at the forum thanks.

    Comment by Olivia — December 7, 2011 @ 7:55 pm

  110. You can go to any surgery you like, you don’t have to explain anything to anyone, if asked just say personal reasons etc.
    You can also ask any questions you like on the forum, and there is plenty of info on there..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 7, 2011 @ 9:05 pm

  111. My last post was in September when I had won my high court case for Incapacity benefit I had a new appeal where the Dr was so aggressive even the welfare rights person with me was shocked. I had submitted a letter from my Dr and relevant reports from my specialists, even my histology reports. I was quite shocked when I said I had been diagnosed with lung cancer and the Dr said I did not have cancer.I produced my copies of the new evidence we had submitted. There were red faces all round and lots of apologies when they realised that the evidence was not in their papers. I won my case but the stress made me really ill, I did not stop crying for weeks and still get tearful when I think about it.
    I am now receiving ESA and yes I have to stay on this benefit. I have finally been paid my back money from November 2009 when ATOS declared me fit for work. The Macmillan Welfare Rights officer came to fill in the forms today BECAUSE I AM BEING RE-ASSESSED. So here we go again.
    I refuse to give up if they declare me fit for work again because this is what they want.

    The news today is that they are going to make people who are undergoing intravenous chemotherapy be assessed. There is a petition on the Macmillan website to stop this. Please can I ask everyone to go on their website and sign it and to pass it along to their friends to sign.

    Comment by Carole — December 7, 2011 @ 11:32 pm

  112. Hello Carole.

    I have put the link on the forum http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ after signing it, and I’m sure the majority of readers will not need any kind of prompting to sign this petition.
    If you ever have the time, which is probably unlikely given that you are ill then you would see that we on this BLOG long before the last election warned everyone what was going to happen if this dreadful man gets in to power.

    WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS BASTARD AND HIS HIDEOUS FRIENDS BEFORE HE/THEY TOTALLY RUINS THE COUNTRY..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 8, 2011 @ 5:59 am

  113. I see that the proposal to cut the working hours to 20 hours a week is met by derision by the Daily mail reading retards, the same people who scream at the unemployed and the sick to ”GO GET JOB” don’t like it when a fair proposal to help the unemployed is put forward.
    The truth, judging by most of the I won’t be able to afford to live type comments is it’s not about helping the economy or to boost growth or even as they claim ”GO GET JOB” but more like I’ve already got job and I’m all right Jack.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083799/Cut-working-week-20-hours–BOOST-growth-say-economists.html

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 9, 2012 @ 8:35 am

  114. i had a medical in august 2011 i arrived 20 minutes early and was kept there for over an hour .i asked the receptionest what the hold up was. she told me they were running late so i asked her to find out how much longer i would be. when she came back and told me it would be another 20 minutes i flipped and demanded a bed to lie on .she then told me i could go home and she would send me a new appointment out
    whaaaat are you joking my husband was with me and said i was wasting my time i could barley keep my eyes open i had taken double my pain killers to get me through this farcical assessment how dare they treat us like this. criminals have more rights than us i have worked all my life and i am entitled to this benifit now i am not able to carry on working. i eventually get called in . by a nurse who asked me did i feel well enough to have this assessment i told her to just carry on she then told she did not think i looked well enough to carry on then informed me i would have to go back to the waiting room as she did not feel qualified to deal with me .i near threw up i refused point blank she then informed me that she had to seek advice and that she could not leave me in the medical examners room on my own so i told her to get one of the 4 receptionest who were sitting there doing nothing .in the end she just went out and left us on our own i was on the verge of breaking down and told my husband that i was not coping well with all what was going on. when she came back she had a spring in her step and said she was fine to carry on
    i have osteoarthritus in my neck spine and lower back plus slipped herniated disc middle back (which i have been informed that there is no surgen in the country that will operate on because i would end up paralised) i also have fibromyalgia the list is endless but just the ones i have mentioned are only to going to get worse .there are no cures for them .anyway the nurse carried out her assessment it took over a hour . i refused to get on the couch and do the squats she then told me i was all done and i could go home i wished i could have vidioed the whole thing so you could see the state the whole thing left me in .i was in bed for quite a few days after this so called assessment .
    i never heard anythink untill end of october were upon i recieved a phone call from someone from the dwp informing me that i was no longer entitled to benifits as i did not score 1 point point (sorry but they do take the piss) so i had scored all the points i needed from 2009 untill i had this assessment aug 2011 its a miracle i am cured .she then told me i could claim jsa . now i know once i claimed jsa that i have agreed with there decision (yeah whatever ) i told her i wanted to appeal and i also wanted a copy of the medical( you have to ask for a full copy) when i recieved the copy of the medical i was insensed with anger how dare they .it was full of lies and inconsistencies . i immeidately got in touch with my local mp who asked me to write down every question that i thought was not right .well i did and more sorry for being so long winded lol this is the short version and i also appealed through my local unemployed center and got my gp on side .i was told it could take up to a year for it to go to appeal and that i would have to start sending sick notes in again .i was then put on the lower appeal benifit untill my appeal .well at the end of november i recieved a copy of the letter from my mp that had been sent to him not me stating that i had won my appeal and been placed in the support group . i still today have not heard personaly from them( dwp ) moral of my story is get every one on board to help you especialy your local mp if every one wrote to there mps and inendated them they might look harder at what is happening to the sick and disabled hope this helps some one

    Comment by sheila blair — January 16, 2012 @ 1:20 pm

  115. Hello Sheila.

    A dreadful story, and I’m not being funny but if I had a pound for every time I heard………….you know what I mean.
    It’s good you got there in the end, and you are right the amount of people who just cave in and give up is horrendous and that’s what the DWP want, just everyone make their (DWP/ATOS) lives easy and do what they are told.
    That’s why this Blog and the sister site http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ was set up to help genuine claimants like yourself because the DWP and this ATOS mob don’t give a rats ass.
    This ATOS lot can’t get any people to work for them now and staff are leaving with the stress, how ironic is that ? the stress of working for ATOS Ha Ha. One of the Drs who assessed me was an old man with grey hair and decayed balls with one foot on a banana skin and the other in a pine box, honestly ATOS are so desperate they are reduced to taking retired Drs aged around 90, sad…….so very sad.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 16, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

  116. My friend’s grandson was summoned for an assessment at the job centre, not ATOS, but still a monumental balls-up….this guy is severely disabled, in a wheelchair, has the mental age of a toddler, can’t speak, my friend was so disgusted when she received the letter that she decided to actually take him. When his name was called, the member of staff gestured to his carer to come in, her face was an absolute picture when he pointed to the guy in the wheelchair, and said ‘Actually, this is Mr W’. They were swiftly ushered into a side room & profusely apologised to.
    Laura

    Comment by Anonymous — February 5, 2012 @ 7:23 pm

  117. Hello Anonymous.

    Nothing surprises me with this ATOS/DWP lot and I’m not joking, I’ve actually seen people at appeal tribunals (NB, NOT ATOS ASSESSMENTS) yes the actual tribunal a year later struggling in on crutches at 2 inches an hour, I actually felt embarrassed for the tribunal appeal.

    WONDER WHAT THE PANEL THOUGHT ?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 5, 2012 @ 8:00 pm

  118. More and more disabled people are being physically and mentally abused every day.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/05/benefit-cuts-fuelling-abuse-disabled-people

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 5, 2012 @ 9:37 pm

  119. I won my tribunal end of Oct 2011 still haven’t heard from DWP regarding my back payments, when called 10 days ago was told there is a note on the system and to call back in 2 weeks,( after working 36 years this is how I get treated )

    Comment by Anonymous — February 16, 2012 @ 1:32 pm

  120. Hello Anonymous.

    I won my tribunal in Nov 2011 and received backdate money 7 weeks later, that was long enough but your still waiting after three and a half months ? that’s an absolute disgrace, you should probably send a letter again and remind them.
    By the way the quicker your paid the quicker you receive a new ESA 50 to fill in, I know because I’ve just received one and now I have to go through the whole process again…!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 16, 2012 @ 1:58 pm

  121. Just wanted to say that a friends brother in law who has apparently worked for the dwp for 8 years plus , has left after no longer being able to cope with knowingly treating disabled people so unfairly,Cant say word for word because i dont know the actual person,only to say hello to.But this is what my friend told me and shes always honest..He has another job within the dwp but no longer does the mental cruelty processing thats how it was relayed to me…

    Comment by lyn — February 17, 2012 @ 2:33 am

  122. Hello Lyn.

    Everyone in the DWP know what’s going on, they all know it’s a sham and anyone in the DWP that says they don’t know is either thick as shit in the neck of a bottle or is in complete denial, there’s no excuse anymore, in fact there never was an excuse, and saying that I was just following orders is just not good enough, last I heard 31 people have died either directly or indirectly because of the erroneous actions of the DWP and they are going to take responsibility, and I for one is/are going to be shouting the loudest to get that rope round there necks, read my lips they are nothing but fucking scum, and one day there will be some old scores to settle.

    WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, AND WE WILL NEVER FORGET..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 17, 2012 @ 6:32 am

  123. Hello dwpexamination—- thanks for your comments I am already freaking out the thought of going through the whole process again with ESA50 form and ATOS, Really worried now on whats going to happen!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous — February 17, 2012 @ 11:55 am

  124. Readers…Do you care about your National health service, if so please sign Eoin Clarke’s petition (Will not vote for Lib-Dems again if they allow this Bill through), it’s on the right hand side of the page, and only takes a minute to sign and click your e-mail return as confirmation..

    http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2012/03/lansley-refuses-court-order-to-publish.html

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 10, 2012 @ 3:55 pm

  125. iv just attended a 3rd medical at atos,last time i had 15 points.but was refused esa.i was told to return to work.they left off copd(chronic obstructive pulmanary desease) angina,severe angziety and depresion.deaf in 1 ear.black outs and dizzy spells.asma,and renal failior.(kidney failure)and arthritus.so i was sent to work in the heart foundation.the next day i was sent to hospital,they diagnosed ostioarthritus in both shoulders,caused by carrying 1000,s of bags upstairs.i also severed my testicles.which i cant get an operation for,because i have COPD.iv just been told to go back to jca.ever though i cant move my arms

    Comment by keith smith — March 24, 2012 @ 3:59 pm

  126. there is no money.the hospitals and nursing homes have been kulling elderly people to save on care and pentions.i can prove that.(hint ,broken hip)20,000 elderly people,died of the cold weather 2 years ago.last year they told the energy providers to put it up by 25%.then put up the vat to 20%.just to improve on the death figure

    Comment by keith smith — March 24, 2012 @ 4:06 pm

  127. Hello Keith.

    Why did you go to work ? why did you even sign on ? now your health problems are even worse because of these idiots.

    I don’t know if you are aware or not, but you are/were entitled to appeal against their fallacious decision to find you fit for work.
    I hope you have protested with a complaint to ATOS and the DWP in the strongest possible terms ? if I were you I would be demanding compensation from them as well, more likely I would contact a solicitor who specialises in these types of claims, you should strongly word a letter of complaint to your Member of parliament, and don’t take or listen to any excuses from these people either. This is an absolute disgrace.

    Consider sending your story to Polly Toynbee (Journalist) from the Guardian newspaper, she is interested in stories concerning ATOS so called healthcare, you can send a letter to her here Kings Place, 90 York Way
    London N1 9GU http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/contact-us This nonsense has to stop before someone is worked to death..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 24, 2012 @ 4:26 pm

  128. got my reports from my medical assessment done by a nurse who has decided that i will be fit for work after just having surgery on my left hand a fortnight before and giving a statement that i will be fit for work in 6 to 8 weeks she has nod idea what the actual surgery entailed only that i had stitches if i had know would have got a sick note form specialist who did the op the recovery time for this op is 6 months as it includes cutting through nerve tissue and there is no guarantee it will work even in the short as it is a treatment not a cure but still she knows better than the specialists
    how on earth has this system been allowed as it costing more money than they are ever going to save
    been to solicitor to lodge appeal and even she cannot work out how i can get high rate mobility but suddenly score zero points on their sheet.
    the answers on the form when you read them sound yes i am okay
    the truth is that she has left things out like having to go next door if i want a bottle or can opening do not mean drink, mean milk and fool
    states that i can walk for half an hour to go to shop to pa\y bills
    does not state that before it would have taken five minutes
    said i get a bath but does not state that i stand up in bath do not sit down
    states that i can do my housework but not that it is does in bits not all at once
    thiis system is bizarre as have found out a person i know had to wait a year for an appeal
    regarding physical examanatiion that my left has normal strengh in it very strange as it is full of steel and my ankle moves normally strange when i try to do what she say she did i cannot do it
    also can clean bath but left out that i use spray mousse to do it do not bend to do it as you just rinse it off
    this joke of a medical would make sense if i had got some points as also have nerve damage to right thumb due a work accident and this is for life but that has somehow been magically cured
    now they have put our appeal court in the same building as the magistrates court so is this to make you feel more like a criminal?
    now the appeals courts have got such a backlog they are having to run these courts in different towns to try and clear up this unholy mess

    Comment by june — March 27, 2012 @ 4:13 pm

  129. Hi June.

    Well at least you know enough to appeal, you would be surprised how many people don’t even know that.
    If you only know one person that’s waited for a year for an appeal then you must be new to this ATOS business, if so welcome to your worst nightmare, you are now entering a world of hurt, and you are going to find out that you are not alone, there are literally thousands upon thousands all over Britain going through this hell.

    We are now in the world of a new Adolf Hitler, all news regarding ATOS through the media is ruthlessly squashed or at best hidden in the deep bowels of various newspapers, places where very few people visit, all claims of malpractice and fabricated medical assessments are denied on the spot by those horrible people in the new Nazi party, people like Iain Duncan Smith and Chris Grayling a pair of compulsive liars.

    The claims from people like yourself and others who come here with their stories about ATOS and the DWP are so fantastic that nobody believes them, and that is why you are just finding out about ATOS and the DWP even though it has been going on for over three years, yes over three years and if you asked the average Joe in the street if they knew who ATOS were ? the answer would be ATOS WHO ?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 27, 2012 @ 7:23 pm

  130. i think you guys need a laugh.i think this is crazy.i attended my 3rd medical at atos.the guy who examined me was dr steve gash,(registered medical practitioner)although i simperthised with his disability.i cant understand,how a doctor with 1 leg,is aloud to practice.his whole leg was amputated 11 years ago.he needed crutches to try to examine me.he told lies in his report.but guess what.i recorded my examination on my smart phone .he didnt know how to check my blood pressure.he tryde 3 times.added the readings together.then took an average reading.i dont think he was a doctor.the heath and safety issues are vast.he coudnt do a home visit for egsample.i think he was a legal team,or criminal lawer

    Comment by keith smith — March 27, 2012 @ 10:31 pm

  131. Hi Kenn.

    ATOS are so desperate for staff they are taking people with crutches ? good god, talk about scraping the barrel, surely he can’t be allowed to practice..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 27, 2012 @ 11:59 pm

  132. they should have cameras in the room

    Comment by Anonymous — April 5, 2012 @ 12:44 am

  133. I think that to employ the one legged ‘doctor’ was most likely done for a Psychological reason,s …you know like to make you yourself feel fortunate for maybe having two legs…So ,maybe you should not be there….Well. don,t feel bad if it is something like that…most health problems especially the more serious kind cant even be seen…And you can,t see pain either….

    Comment by lyn — April 10, 2012 @ 5:28 pm

  134. Possibly however, I like to think its because they cant get any real doctors to work for them and they will take anything.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 10, 2012 @ 5:49 pm

  135. ?

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 11, 2012 @ 8:41 am

  136. I have just got my assessment back from medical centre, and i would just like to say he just highlighted my good days and never even mentioned my bad days at all which made me look like i could probably sky dive lol. He said i declined examination when he asked me if it hurt and i said it did so he did not do it which is different from declining, unbelievable, i came out thinking what a nice guy but he stabbed me so far in the back it came out of my stomach. The system stinks you have to over state things to get your point accross. I think they should get your mediical records before they do these assessment as this person, totally ignored everything i had to say, my husband was with me as witness to this, if do go for this assessment i suggest you take someone with you to take notes on what he asks and your answers to the questions he asks, what a farce, hence obivoulsy after receiving full face to face assessment evaluation i am now going to appeal, i suffer with my back, but he has not once mentioned my back problem, i am astounded.

    Comment by michelle — April 25, 2012 @ 12:56 pm

  137. Hello Michelle.

    Don’t be discouraged the appeal panels know that ATOS are lying, you can appeal and win, get that GL 24 appeal form and win that appeal, don’t forget to seek help from your nearest welfare rights office they do sterling work and will not refuse to help you, they can even represent you at the appeal.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 25, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

  138. atos have targets.appart from getting £1000 per examination.they get paid for getting people off benifit.They dont care how they do it.the goverment love it

    Comment by Anonymous — April 25, 2012 @ 9:14 pm

  139. Hi Anonymous.

    You are correct, ATOS do have targets, the Government not only love it but are ecstatic, I don’t think ATOS get anywhere near £1000 per examination though, but one day we will find out exactly how much, I think it varies and depends on what sickness benefit the poor person was thrown off.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 26, 2012 @ 6:09 am

  140. I too am going through the appeal process for both ESA and DLA. I was on IB and have been found capable of limited work and placed on the work list. I was previously receiving DLA HIGH RATE FOR BOTH! Now I’m entitled to none! I have just had to move into an adapted bungalow due to the accidents and falls I encounter on a daily basis. The medical evidence I received from the DWP was innacurate and in some place contradictory to previous questions answered by the DR. I supplied a report from my neurologist , which to be honest, I don’t think could have been opened, never mind read! The person giving advice to the decision maker was a Nurse, who Had never examined or met me!…
    The ESA MADE THEIR DECISION without an examination or even an interview at the job centre or by phone????? I have had previous dealings with ATOS and finally won a my fight for retirement due to ill health…Looks like I’ve got another two battles ahead of me…Wonder if I’ll still be alive to witness them, as judging by the comments I’ve just read, the appeal dates are getting longer and longer. I can no longer get out as my mobility car has gone and I can’t access public transport, even if I could afford it. What a future! Good luck to you all
    Sue

    Comment by Sue — April 27, 2012 @ 8:30 pm

  141. Hello Sue.

    It’s a nightmare for everyone, the hell people are going through is unbelievable, it’s worse than Hitlers Germany, in fact a lot of people are comparing what’s happening now to what the Nazis did.
    If you need support or help you can log in to the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org and find out what’s going on in the hell that is Cameron’s Britain.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 27, 2012 @ 9:04 pm

  142. Good to know I’m not alone! I’ve bought advisory books to try and understand whats going on CPAG and disability alliance. I got so fed up of ringing DWP and the people on the other end not knowing what they were talking about! jUST ABOUT TO HIT YOUR LINK!
    Sue

    Comment by Anonymous — April 27, 2012 @ 9:47 pm

  143. Hello Sue.

    Oh your not alone believe me, there are thousands and thousands being stitched up by the DWP and ATOS, sadly most don’t know where to go, don’t know how to get help and at their wits end with worry, doe’s Cameron and his sidekicks care ? not on your nellie..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 27, 2012 @ 10:37 pm

  144. My partner has Primary Progressive MS, All that he can do is be honest on how the MS prevents him from working, it is awful there is walking (he can manage to get to the bathroom most time), incontinence, forget to mention cognitive problems such as slurred speech at times, forgetting and mixing up letters word and numbers.

    Sometimes I am afraid because he will have the medical assessment, however we are arranging to have it at our flat, we asked atois representative and they said that we need a medical note from his GP and label it as requested further medical evidence.

    We are also Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist and we believe in the (edited by DWPex admin) best English translation by Burton Watson, it shows a better path to take and the Buddha does not want me to be afraid so I am sure we will get what we need to pay our bills be able to eat and live.

    Comment by BTS — May 6, 2012 @ 7:54 pm

  145. Hello BTS.

    If your GP faxes through the evidence regarding your husbands health condition then I’m sure they will agree to a domiciliary visit, the very worst that can happen is having to appeal a fit for work decision, if that happened then the assessment rate is available while you wait for the appeal to be heard so you will not starve.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 6, 2012 @ 9:56 pm

  146. Hello all, I,m most probably late with this report as always thats because i,m useless on the computer but just in case it has been missed by anyone…check out penman & sommerlad investigate …..mirror.co.uk its about all the deaths of people being passed as fit for work,,..shocking.,.one comment states institutionalised murder that needs to be reported to a body of authority like the police..thats what it says…anyway I read all the comments and then composed myself to put the message on here ,,I could not stop crying..There is another comment of a lady being passed as fit for work that had a hickman line because she had cancer. she died the day before her placement….CAMERON ,GRAYLING,IAN DUNCAN SMITH ,ARE MURDERERS!!!

    Comment by lyn — May 7, 2012 @ 5:19 pm

  147. i received a call from esa on saturday afternoon lol.keep ringing them and appealing.block the system up.they got rid of pathways to work.they will do the same with this criminal farse.

    Comment by Anonymous — May 7, 2012 @ 9:45 pm

  148. Hi my name is Paul I had my medical last week got there 10minutes before my appointment time of 11.10am went to reception gave my details and the woman at the reception said we have not got you down for today! did you arrange an home visit? I replied no i did’nt so the woman asked me to take a seat while she investigates.

    I took a seat shaking feeling nervous & confused and wondering what on earth was happening? after 5 minutes or so the lady retuned to me and said further medical reports have came in about myself and that i will never need another medical ever again, in disbelief i asked her to repeat and she did so i left the building without even having a medical.

    It was good news but i was left wondering why i was’nt informed before as to save myself a long journey for nothing.

    When i got home i rang DWP and the local dwp told me my benefits were safe but could’nt really tell me why my medical was cancelled so i asked could they put me through to someone who did know what was going on, They put me through to dwp up the country somewhere which was probably the main office and i spoke to a another woman who told me that they cancelled my medical because they read my medical form i filled out seen the doctors evidence and evidence from my councellor who i have seen for about 12yrs and decided i did’nt need another medical.

    I asked why they could’nt inform me to save me the long unnessasary journey to which she opologised. I also told her atos said i won’t ever need another medical again to which she replied yes i will in about 2 years time, i don’t know why 2yrs? as my symptoms will just be the same if not worse.

    There is hope people so keep your chin up and make sure you got the evidence from Dr. etc.

    I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety etc after 14yrs of mental and physical child abuse and my result was a big weight off my shoulders.

    I went to my medical thinking the worse but got a good result so there is hope.

    Comment by Paul — May 8, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

  149. Hello Paul.

    What a carry on, actually ATOS wouldn’t look out of place on a carry on film, one day pine studios might do it.
    Well at least you have a result, your right though to be wary about this will never be assessed again for the rest of your life business, expect the worst, but it shouldn’t happen for a while at least.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 8, 2012 @ 12:38 pm

  150. @dwpexamination, It’s very sad the suicide rates and what dwp and atos are doing to the sick and disabled should be crimes against humanity! I firmly believe that all the wars, afghanistan, iraq, libya is what has made our country skint as war is very expensive with cruise missles alone costing £500,000.00. It’s crazy in the 21st century that disabled and sick people are treated this way!

    Comment by Paul — May 8, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

  151. Hi Paul.

    We just have to fight them as best we can, eventually it all has to end.
    http://www.dwpexamination.org

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 8, 2012 @ 2:03 pm

  152. Hia, i went for a medical with ATOS back in Sept 2011, i was told by the Dr that i would have my report back in three weeks, weeks and weeks went by waiting for the dreaded brown envelope to land on my mat, well jan 2012 it landed, but it wasn’t my medical report it was a letter off the DWP stateing that i’d been put into the work related activity group, and it said on it if i didn’t aggree with the decision i could appeal, so i did. My daughter wrote them a letter as i suffer with depression and she signed the letter, it took them nearly 6 weeks to reply, and that was only to say that they needed me to sign the letter, which i did and sent it back to them straight away. In the meantime i have had to attend work related interviews at the job center, which i find really hard to do as i don’t like leaving the house, well last week i received 2 letters stateing that my benifit would stop on jan 17th 2013, still no answer to my letter mind!!!! Well my daughter rang the DWP to see what this was all about, and she was told that they had made a decision that i was to stay in the WRAG, but i hadn’t been informed by them in any way. She also asked them to send me my medical report, which the man in the DWP replied…WHAT USE IS THIS TO YOU!!!! my daughter told him that i needed it to make sure that ATOS hadn’t lied, as they have lied on a previous medical, and she was told eventually that he’d get it sent out to me. Well Sat morning a brown envelope landed on my mat, it was my medical report!!! Hooray!!!!!!! and on it it stated that the dr in ATOS had put on my report that it was unlikely that i would be fit to return to work for at least 2years!!!! No wonder they weren’t willing to send it to me…… if i hadn’t had it they would have stopped my benifit next year….We have written a letter to the DWP asking them to explain this… i wonder what they are going to come up with, the lieing BASTERDS!!!! I would like to tell everyone to ask to see they’re medical reports, as they have got to give it to you.

    Comment by Kim — May 14, 2012 @ 6:16 pm

  153. Hello Kim.

    Be careful here, you say they have put you in the WRAG and your benefit will stop on Jan the 17th 2013, which suggests to me that you are on contributory ESA and not income related ?, but the HCP has said you aren’t fit to work for 2 years ?.

    Well if the HCP has told the DWP that you aren’t fit to work for at least two years that means you should be in the support group (Or good chances for the support group) not the WRAG, if you stay on the WRAG then your money will indeed stop on the 17th of January 2013.

    I hope you can understand what I’m saying ? and that is you need to appeal to get in the support group, and you have strong evidence from the HCP that you should be eligible for the support group, now that the DWP have been forced to show YOU the ESA 85 you can see what they are trying to do, they hope you will not know that your money is going to stop if you are on the WRAG, they hope you will think you are secure on the WRAG, and they hope you will not appeal to get in the support group because if you appeal and win then as long as you stay in the support group of ESA they cannot get you off it even if you are on contributory ESA, at least until you have another assessment.

    I would strongly suggest you take advice on this, either from the CAB or the welfare rights, do not delay any longer.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 14, 2012 @ 7:18 pm

  154. Thank you so much I will get in contact with them tomorrow!!!!

    Comment by Kim — May 14, 2012 @ 8:06 pm

  155. I am soo confused, do you remember in my post number 148 i explained i went to one of those so called atos medicals, when i got there 10 minutes before my appointed time i rang the buzzer gave my name etc went to reception gave my details etc and the woman on reception told me they have’nt got me down for a medical today and asked if i arranged an home visit?
    To say i was confused was an understatement, I said to her i have a letter for a medical for today so she asked me to take a seat while she investigates, I was waiting only 5 minutes when the woman finally approached me and told me that they have recieved extra medical evidence and that i never need to come to one of these medicals again, In disbelief i asked her to repeat and she did.
    I felt happy what i just been told but felt annoyed attenting the medical centre when i never even had an appointment on their system yet they never even bothered to send me a letter or call me to let me know to save me going 6 miles to the medical centre.

    when i got home i telephoned my local job centre/D.W.P centre explained what happened and they said after looking on the system that my benefits were safe but they could’nt tell me why my medical had been cancelled so i asked them to put me through to someone that did know.
    They put me through to what must of been the main office up country and after explaining the situation to them they said atos contacted d.w.p and said after reading my medical form (esa50) and evidence from my doctor and councellor they decided i did’nt need a medical, i told them what i was told at atos that i would never need another medical again to which she replied well that’s not entirely true you may not need one for up to 2years.
    I got a telephone call today from d.w.p and a woman asked for me and she said they have put me into the work related e.s.a and that i have to attend appointments but she said someone like myself would only have to attend around 3 or 4 times a year.

    I told her of my dislike going to my medical at the appointed time just to be told to go away when they should of contacted me to say they cancelled it and no need to attend and that i was unhappy with atos decision without even seeing me or interviewing me and no medical, how can they make such life changing decissions with no physical contact with myself???
    I feel as if they are lieing to me and not telling me the full story hoping i will fall into a trap whereas i wont be able to appeal etc if i don’t appeal in the 4 weeks .

    Atos are a complete waste of space and they are not even medically qualified to deal with the people they medical., I feel i am being constantly lied too and purposely being made to feel confused and they constantly move the goal post in their favour

    Surely they know of the stress they are causing people and over 1100 people have comitted suicide and numbers are rising, I hope ian duncan smith and others responsible are eventually charged with crimes against humanity.
    Any advice on what i should do know will be greatly appreciated!
    Regards
    Paul.

    Comment by Paul — May 15, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

  156. Hello Paul.

    First of all before I say anything I need to ask you if you are on income related ESA or Contributory ESA ?, it’s important that you know which one you are on and will determine whether it’s worth appealing or not.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 15, 2012 @ 4:36 pm

  157. Hi i have been on sick for last 15years not paid enough stamp so probably income related.

    Comment by Paul — May 15, 2012 @ 4:48 pm

  158. sorry eating my tea, anyway i asked them to send me appeal form i feel i will need to appeal as like others here like mentioned in post 153 they will make me feel safe but send me a letter tellin me my e.s.a will stop within the year, the dirty tricks they do because they think being sick makes us stupid but we know we are not, i guess writing to my local mp explain how i been treated without even a medical etc

    Comment by Paul — May 15, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

  159. Your on income related ? well you should get the ESA at least until you are called again.
    Anyway, they probably think you are happy to be on the WRAG of ESA if you aren’t happy then you can appeal for the support group, obviously that’s your decision but take advice from the welfare Rights or the CAB Paul because if you apply for the support group and lose that appeal then you need to be aware that a tribunal have the power to deny you ESA altogether.

    Believe it, but check it first if you do decide to appeal for the support group

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 15, 2012 @ 5:34 pm

  160. Hi thanks for advice, atos must of thought i had a good case to start with to decide not to even medical me but i see your point i will discuss it with my councellor.

    Comment by Paul — May 15, 2012 @ 5:37 pm

  161. Hi, I also have had problems with ATOS. I had an assessment back on 31st October 2011. I heard nothing else from ATOS or from the jobcentre until i got a letter saying i had to have an interview at the jobcentre.. so i went down had the interview and got told i had to attend Best Training. I asked why since my problems ive had have been going on for over 7 years they wont magically disappear. The person who did the interview just said that the law required me to go to Best Training. So i attended there to be told by Best Training not the jobcentre that i have been put in the Work Related group and that the job centre expect me to get a job within 3 months.

    Now i worked from the age of 15 until 7 years ago when i got diagnosed with Epilepsy. Ive had Psorisis all my life which flares up more when im stressed, as well as Depression which ive had from the age of 13 because of abuse,Borderline Personality Disorder and severe migraines which ive had for the last 6 years constantly. I told the guy at Best Training and he said i had to appeal.. so i did 4 times now and they keep ” Losing ” my appeal form.
    Doesnt help anymore now because i also lost my hearing completely in my left ear and partial in my right ear due to Meniere’s back in January and i dont go anywhere unfamiliar on my own because if i take a vertigo attack while im on my own in an unfamilar place i end up freaking out and end up making myself ill. My fiancé tends to come with me everywhere because since i lost my hearing i’m more of a danger to myself now because i cant hear traffic and stuff yet supposely im eligible to work which i find complete BS.

    ATOS have no training they only look for ” PHYSICAL ” problems they ignore the mental ones. Which well for a group of people who claim they are medical then why are they not taking the Mental side into consideration and only looking for physical problems.
    They asked me what did i do in my spare time. To which i replied with depends what kinda of day i’ve had.. If ive had a siezure at night i tend to sleep all day because it physically drains me. Other than that if its a normal day with no headaches, no siezures and no Vertigo then i can essentally be ” normal ” however in the last 7 years ive had maybes 17 normal days… The rest there is always at least one problem. I tend to try and keep myself busy as much as i can as i hate sitting around doing nothing.

    I’m sick of these idiots having peoples lives so to speak in thier hands and screwing everything up.

    Comment by Fallyn — May 25, 2012 @ 7:33 am

  162. Hello Fallyn.

    If they ask what you do in your spare time again just say ”Well I get up at six o clock (Around the crack o dawn) and start on the punchbag (I imagine it’s a stupid bastard like you that asks daft questions that I’m punching) followed by 12 rounds of boxing with my personal trainer, after that I swim for around an hour in my private swimming pool, then I do 100 pushups and by the time the evening comes I’m exhausted and I just fall asleep until the next morning then the whole rigmarole starts again”.

    So what did you imagine I did in my spare time ? you knob end.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 25, 2012 @ 12:49 pm

  163. ahahah DWP well they sent me another stupid questionaire.. You know the pink paper ones that your suppose to fill out once a year.. Well this is my 2nd one in 6 months. They seriously need to get a grip.

    Comment by Fallyn — May 25, 2012 @ 6:36 pm

  164. Yes that’s the ESA 50 Questionnaire, I usually get two a year as well..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 25, 2012 @ 8:10 pm

  165. Hi Jan here – I went to a ATos medical I had osteoathritis in my left knee at the time but they never looked at my leg – just made me move my hands squeeze this and then can you reach up. The claim stated I was fit for work but I was unable to walk more than a few yards. My disability has got worse now in my hip and back and have been waiting for a “doctor” from Atos since 11-10-2011 but the Court keeps stating that they have doctors reports missing (I know they have all been sent). I have done this through a company (I know it was a mistake as they take 50% if it is backdated) but I need the assistance.

    Also my ESA has been cut from £111 a week for myself and my partner who cannot find a job down to £71 per week because I get a small pension which I paid into for 20 years of £43 a week. This is totally unfair – I would not have taken my pension as this was to make up my money to be able to live.

    Today I have not received my ESA they say they have not received my sick note and to get a duplicate one and did not care that I have no money to buy milk or bread or food for my dogs – They were very uncaring and did not give a dam about my problem – this is a caring society?????????????

    Hope all of you get this benefit

    Comment by Anonymous — June 6, 2012 @ 11:20 am

  166. Hello Anonymous.

    You are just finding out about this now, we have been aware for more than three years, and battling them for three years, they won’t go away unless we all fight them together, not just when we have been granted ESA and think they will not be back, because they will be back, in a never ending cycle, so……………… http://www.dpwexamination.org

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 6, 2012 @ 12:08 pm

  167. HELP!!!!! don’t know what to do?????
    I won my tribunal in Nov 2011 after being subjected to ordeal of going to ATOS,appeal etc and the stress it caused me and got my back payments few months ago…..now the dreaded ESA50 form has arrived again to be sent by 22nd June and also have my interview with JCP on 18th June.I am really stressed out on what I should do as I do not feel I am strong enough to go through all this again.I am 58 years old worked 37 years of my life and paid all my contributions until few years ago when I was made redundant since than its been downhill for me with my health, I suffer with severe IBS,anxiety,depression,back and knee problems.I was on contribution based ESA until 30th April 2012 and now on income based ESA which is just £38 a week……..I have a small private pension of £32 a week and a bit of savings which is under £16.000 which they have taken into account to qualify me with a measley £38.00 which accounts for £1.00 a year for all my contributions paid into the system…no justice at all.I don’t know if I want to go through stress and make myself more ill for the sake of £38.00 which is a lot when you don’t have anything coming in at all but feel I cannot bear the thought of what I went through again.I am so upset that genuine people like us have been treated in this manner.Any advice will be appreciated.I have till the end of the week to decide to send the form in or not which will be followed by ATOS appointment.Even if I go on JSA I will get the same amount and will be forced to take any job which I won”t be able to do due to severe IBS which effects long journeys.
    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — June 12, 2012 @ 10:16 am

  168. Hello Anonymous.

    Keep going for the assessments, and don’t give in, they send you an ESA 50 questionnaire then you fill it in, they demand you attend an assessment then you go, they stop your benefits then you appeal, in other words you just keep going and don’t give up.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 12, 2012 @ 9:07 pm

  169. I have had a medical and I have osteoarthritis in my right leg and fingers and lower back and left shoulder ,I am now waiting for a wheelchair to be delivered , and they scored me nothing on points .I am so depressed I have to appeal but don’t know how else to prove my self I have my doctors word and xrays and I don’t go out anywhere cos I can’t walk I am so discusted .three weeks ago they said they lost my papers I give up what else can I do any help would be welcomed

    Comment by Rose — June 14, 2012 @ 11:31 am

  170. Thanks for your advice dwpexamination….I have just completed the ESA50 form going to post it later hope don’t have to go through the appeal……or ATOS freaking me out already.Worried about monday jobcentre interview for WRAG…..don’t know what to expect.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — June 15, 2012 @ 11:36 am

  171. Hi there, I wouldn’t worry they only ask you a load if stupid questions that these crappy tories have made them ask you . The people in the job centre are lovely, really helpful, only once I’ve been, but the lady I saw phones me up once a month, just to ask the same questions basically, nothing to worry about… I found the job centre very helpfully and on your side, I wouldn’t worry about it at all. I was worried when I went the first time as I suffer from mental health problems and I don’t like leaving the house or talking to people I don’t know, but they were lovely xxx

    Comment by Kim — June 15, 2012 @ 11:53 am

  172. Thank you Kim for your advice!!! my Jobcentre staff are very unsympathetic although they have known me for years when I was working as I use to deal with them a lot but still treat me like l have never worked in my life.I will go with open mind thank you, will post here on how I get on.x

    Comment by Anonymous AB — June 15, 2012 @ 12:47 pm

  173. Yes ok, but I’m sure you’ll be fine, I wouldn’t worry to much xxxx

    Comment by Kim — June 15, 2012 @ 4:25 pm

  174. hi i had a medical in april i suffer from depression after my sister committed suicide and today i received a call from the job center saying someone was going to contact me on thursday but never said why

    Comment by ANDREA — June 26, 2012 @ 1:20 pm

  175. Hello Andrea.

    Let’s hope it’s good news, if it isn’t and you want to appeal then we can help http://www.dwpexamination.org under no circumstances do you give up your right to appeal over the phone, it only takes a hesitation on your part for them to contact the appeal service instructing them you do not wish to appeal. Remember the call will be recorded, of course all calls are for their benefit, just in case you deny saying something.
    So there’s no need to panic, just stay cool and find out what they want, if you get any nonsense like there’s no point in appealing because you don’t have a good case (Yes that’s one of their tricks) then immediately say, I don’t agree and I wish to appeal, could you please send me a GL 24 appeal form and my ESA 85 assessment report and I will get on with it.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 26, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

  176. thanks for getting back to me …..the dreaded call came today and my benefit is to be stopped i dont have the strenght to fight anymore.i live alone with no income obviously i currently get housing benefit and council tax benefit please could you advise me on what to do next …thanks

    Comment by ANDREA — June 28, 2012 @ 11:58 am

  177. Hello Andrea.

    There’s no need to panic, you can take things in stages and make it easy for yourself.

    The first thing you need to do is get the GL 24 appeal form (Available over the counter from your Job centre), and a sicknote from your GP, when you have done that then write on the GL 24 form that you wish to appeal against their decision to find you fit for work, attache the sicknote and remind them that you need to have a copy of the ESA 85 assessment report in order for you to submit the rest of your appeal, also insert in there somewhere that you wish to be paid the assessment rate while you wait for the appeal to be heard.

    If you do that then you have complied with the law, this means they cannot delay paying you the assessment rate. The assessment rate is around £71 per week plus your rent and council tax rebate as before, so it’s not much, same as Job seekers, but better than nothing.

    After you take care of that, then the next step is to contact your nearest welfare rights or CAB and explain that you are appealing against an unfit for work decision and can they help etc.
    You have a month to appeal so there’s no dreadful hurry, just take each step at a time, and things will be less stressful.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 28, 2012 @ 1:05 pm

  178. Hello Andrea.

    There’s no need to panic, you can take things in stages and make it easy for yourself.

    The first thing you need to do is get the GL 24 appeal form (Available over the counter from your Job centre), and a sicknote from your GP, when you have done that then write on the GL 24 form that you wish to appeal against their decision to find you fit for work, attache the sicknote and remind them that you need to have a copy of the ESA 85 assessment report in order for you to submit the rest of your appeal, also insert in there somewhere that you wish to be paid the assessment rate while you wait for the appeal to be heard.

    If you do that then you have complied with the law, this means they cannot delay paying you the assessment rate. The assessment rate is around £71 per week plus your rent and council tax rebate as before, so it’s not much, same as Job seekers, but better than nothing.

    After you take care of that, then the next step is to contact your nearest welfare rights or CAB and explain that you are appealing against an unfit for work decision and can they help etc.
    You have a month to appeal so there’s no dreadful hurry, just take each step at a time, and things will be less stressful.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 28, 2012 @ 1:05 pm

  179. my mind is blown with all ive been reading even more so as i just had my ATOS medical on the 20/7/2012 and i recieved a phone call from DWP this morning the lady said i had only scored 6 points and my benefit will stop on the 13/8/2012 im totaly at my end i suffer very deeply with major depression anxiety also had an accident and injured my spine popped a disc and have nerve damadge in my leg so wearing a splint and on top of that i have psoriasis so i have PUVA treatment and it gets even better as i lost my sister in a car crash and also my grandma and uncle just died so my nerves are already shot im on prozac valium zopiclone propananol and antihistemines also steroid creams for my skin im falling apart at the seems just had mri scan and nerve conduction test and got to see neroligiest end of month i live alone i have no family or real friends to give me any advice or help i just dont know how to cope anymore the lady on the phone just said id get a letter saying my money will stop i dont know how im going to even pay my rent as i topped it up with the money i was recieving so looks like im going to end up homeless or even dead i guess im just another satistic where do i go from here apart from my own grave …..

    Comment by michael — July 31, 2012 @ 4:31 pm

  180. Hello Michael.

    First of all I cannot even begin to articulate to you how corrupt these people are, and I’m not going to bother trying, because like you Michael I’m just fed up to the back teeth with this whole business and I want it to end.

    But what I can tell you is this, there’s light at the end of the tunnel, the television programmes ”Dispatches CH 4” and ”Panorama BBC ” last night have helped show the whole Country that the system this Government have installed to determine who is and who is not entitled to sickness benefits is seriously flawed and at the point of meltdown.
    And also shown that what we have being doing here on this Blog and the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org is a crusade against Government corruption and malpractice.

    I can also tell you that there’s light at the end of the tunnel for you personally, you don’t need to accept this, you don’t need to harm yourself mentally or Physically, your road to what to do next is actually fairly straightforward if you take each thing at a time, and you can start by visiting the above forum and get all the advice you need to appeal, what to do for money while you appeal, how to appeal, what forms you need, how to get these forms, and even the appeal written for you if you need it. And not only that you will keep in touch with others like your self that have been where you are and have got themselves out of it.

    In the meantime while you are doing that we will/are trying to figure a way out of this mess, because we are not just sitting around doing nothing, we are on this Governments case every single day, they are never ever going to get rid of us ever..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — July 31, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  181. Hello dwpexamination thanx for your quick reply as im sure you yourself can understand my mind feels like its going to explode im at my whits end i just dont know where to go from here but i will first of all visit the forum http://dwpexamination.org i also watched the Dispatches and Panorama programmes last night on telly i was totaly shocked AND COULD NOT BELIEVE what i was seeing just my luck i got the dreaded phone call day after and when i recieved my phone call this morning the lady from DWP said she could not comment on anything political but she was sorry for upsetting me and i should expect a letter confirming that my money has been stopped its beyond reason that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer i cant make head or tail of this system it stinks to the pits of hell i served my time in the Army took the Queens shilling for this country and ive always been a hard grafter but when all has gone wrong in my life through no fault of my own we just get swept under the carpet and pushed aside into the rubbish tip we are made to feel like we are criminals and live on fresh air when they are all eating fine food drinking champange living in there million pound houses we and are expected to deal with our own problems there is no help or justice its turned into a natzi state !!

    Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  182. That’s why if there is ever another world war, I will be an anti-war activist, I will be telling our young people to avoid the call up, tell them to eff off, don’t fight their stinking wars for them, tell them to go and fight it themselves.

    Just like Alex Berkman, Rebecca Edelsohn and Emma Goldman did…and all got the jail for just before the first war in 1918.

    These people who Govern us will just use you and when they are done discard you like a piece of rubbish.
    As George Galloway says about Blair ”He will fight to the last drop of your blood”

    Comment by dwpexamination — July 31, 2012 @ 8:25 pm

  183. I had another examination but this time I took my camera and took a photo of the doctor, he did not like this and said this was illegal without his permission,(bullshit I think) he was not going to do the examination and phoned a friend, (it is lawfull to take pics outside for sure) I did delete the pic and then carried on with the exam as I coukld not be arsed to go back again (I have now undeleted the pic with filescavenger), the docs are not that bright. I will get shafted anyway so I have nothing to lose, you have to think and do what annoys them the most, take time at examinations filibuster them and tell them that they are not giving you enough time, talk slowly and drag it on and on, make them get sick of you.

    Just a thought it would be interesting to have a website with photographs of these arseholes on it to name and shame them, and to list where they work from and any complaints against them would be useful so you know what your up against, you could refuse a doctor to exam you based on his reputation.

    If they are shown to penalise the sick and disabled they might think twice about showing their faces in public.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 3, 2012 @ 5:02 pm

  184. I have just been refused dla on renewal and will proberbly lose incapacity Ben as I have not yet been transferred … 2 years ago I was awarded high rate mobility/ low rate care .. I suffered terrible fibromyalgia making walking any distance unbelievable .. I had a few medications which caused drowseneess .. I was award on medication… Test results… And information on my form..

    Now for the laughter… I have been refused … I have arthritis in both hips, sciatica, fibromyalgia, … Worse still copd at severe level I really can not breathe walking any distance.. I can not get dressed due to breathlessness … I take now morphine I didn’t last time ….. And all the same medicines last time

    What do I do

    Comment by Karen bowler — August 28, 2012 @ 4:06 pm

  185. Hello Karen.

    You have to appeal, that’s the whole point, for those who don’t appeal they get left by the wayside, cruel ?????.
    So if you need help to do this then all the help you need is available here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org
    You would be well advised to contact your local CAB or welfare rights office as well.

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 28, 2012 @ 8:26 pm

  186. I would be doing that if it wasn’t for the c.o.p.d, but to be honest I just haven’t got the strength to do it .. I just can’t believe the inconsistencies, I really do not understand how these people sleep.. I take nearly 200mg of morphine along with a whole bunch of other meds.. Combined it would be silly ( dangerous ) to try and walk alone any distance….. A little common sense from their decision makers would be good

    Comment by Karen — August 28, 2012 @ 10:16 pm

  187. Karen…All you need is a GL24 appeal form and the assessment reports from the DWP via ATOS, you can do that on the phone, then go through the assessment reports and see where you disagree with the HCPs opinions on your health, and then fill in the GL24.
    The DWP don’t care if you appeal or don’t appeal, in fact they would have a slight preference for you not to appeal because it will save them work, and of course if you don’t appeal because of your health problems then you can’t sign on either, this means all money and benefits will never be returned until you take action.

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 28, 2012 @ 11:14 pm

  188. I can’t believe saw in the news that ATOS are sponsering Paraolymics…..what a hypocrites after the way they are treating the disabled re assessments….

    Comment by Anonymous AB — August 29, 2012 @ 10:38 am

  189. Anonymous…Apparently there is going to be some Anti-ATOS demonstrations, so if you just happen to be in the London area then pop along and tell ATOS what you think of them..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 29, 2012 @ 12:24 pm

  190. I posted on here with a comment nearly three years ago in 2009.
    My comment is number 4. I stated: I had my ESA stopped few weeks before major surgery and still weeks after the surgery I still was not paid. The Dr at the ATOS put in what she wanted to say rather than what I had said. She left out my conditions or stated in her opinion what they were …mild bladder loss-i had full baldder loss-mild depression-i have had it since i was a teenager and am 45yrs and crying everyday up through the night crying and lots moreIS NOT MILD- more lots of evil stuff- and then knowing I am due surgery to remove certain things and a part of a major organ, she(HCP)ATOS states at the back of my assesment form- a recemendation to return to work within three months????? i did ask if she was a DR? but who knows does anyone ask for idenfication of these people assessing us? I cannot take the word of ATOS after recieving my letter of response from my complaint WHAT A LOAD OF LONG WINDED WORDS AND AVOIDING CERTAIN SERIOUS COMPALINT POINTS OR SMOOTHING AROUND MY POINTS OF COMPLAINTand trying to turn it onto me!!!!!. Untill the goverment is bought to task over these evil people and that would mean a huge march in london to 10 downing street, with the thousands of poor sick people who have been wrongly treated/and their money taken from them by the actions of the ATOS HCP then they will continue.

    It is 2012 now and I am three years older and sicker than ever more than I was in 2009 when i posted this.
    I have not had a days rest in my complaints with ATOS and JCP.

    When I posted on the 24th October 2009 I did not know that on the 8th October the JCP DM overturned the decision to stop my benefits. I was not going to know until the 5th November 2009 as JCP failed to send me this letter and my back payments.
    JCP had already failed to send my appeal rights and the decsion to stop my benefits in July 2009 and left me not knowing what to do with major surgery due.
    JCP mishandled my appeal when my MP was involved and still did not make payment to me also until a month later. I was without money before my surgery and without money when i went into hospital. I had left my children with my daughter with little money and me not knowing if i would survive the operation or see them again.

    But I made it as you can see only to go home and face appeals again and delays and more letters from ATOS and JCP to attend interviews of back to work and I had jsut had major surgery with severe mental health problems.
    The pressure became too much that in November 09 i nearly took my own life, but as you can see I am here just about.

    I will tell you a few things in three years i have learned a lot been put through a lot and now I am near my end. Due to ATOS and JCP they have ruined my life and any chance of me becoming the person i could be with support the damage is so great i see no future as a normal human being.

    My complaints with ICE and PHSO have been a nightmare and still I am fighting to get justice.

    One thing I have learned is that when you make complaints at any level make your points clear and if the response has not covered your points send it back to them do not go to the next level until they have responded to each complaint point. I have found that you will keep going on to next levels and all you end up with is complaints of how your complaints were handled and your complaint points are never answered too.

    Make sure you do not spend money on your complaints as you will never get this back in compensation. Also remmber ICE get £5000 if they uphold your complaint and you get nothing at times or may get £50 to cover failings which is not enough compared to what they get. i know its not all about money but your losses and suffering matter more so when you see £5000 paid to ICE by JCP.

    You will not get anywhere at PHSO level if you act by yourself get legal representation if you can or they will make mince meat of your complaints and your’ll spend another year going through a PHSO report and then complaining about the handling of your complaints.

    The complaints procedure is not what it makes out to be so be clear in your complaints take no nonsense.

    Oh by the way there was a March on London a few weeks back so now three years on things are starting to happen. But I see sick and disabled people were hurt by Law Enforecment officers.

    Comment by Shandy — September 9, 2012 @ 12:09 am

  191. Another thing i have noticed which happened to me. When the DM stopped my benefits a notification letter telling you when your benefits will stop and giving you your appeal rights and advice what to do with a appeal should be sent then a letter a ESA65 is sent to you giving you the points you earned at the Assessment, i say earned you had to work hard to get them if there was any in points given to you.

    What I am seeing is that when the DM of JCP decides you are not longer entitled to benefits the decsion letter(notification) is not sent only the ESA65 which does not give your appeal rights.
    From seeing Comment by Aruna — November 4, 2010
    Yesterday (2/11/10) received ESA65 saying my score out of 15 was 0 and I am no longer entitled to ESA no other letter to as and when or how to appeal.

    The boxes ticked on how they arrived at the decision was
    The questionnaire I filled recently and the report of my medical assessment.
    Medical information from my GP not ticked so I assume they did not contact my GP.

    It would seem that i am not the only person this was happening to in 2009. PHSO are investigting to why I was not sent my appeal rights in 2009 and the decsion to stop my benefits.

    PLEASE BE AWARE THE ESA65 IS ONLY GIVING YOU YOUR POINTS AND OTHER BENEFITS TO CLAIM JSA MOSTLY WHICH IS NOT FOR SICK PEOPLE – HOWEVER JCP WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLAIM THIS WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN FAILED WITH A WCA.
    The only thing is you have to prove you are activly seeking work or your benefis will incur a sanction and also a suspension of the whole amounts in the end.

    I am sure if I am right that claimants have been sent only the ESA65 to trick them onto JSA now i have seen me and some others. But if this runs into thousands this has happened to then this big time scandel and the motivations of JCP are clear in getting you to claim JSA.

    Although you can claim JSA whilst appealing also and can revert back to ESA if the decsion is overturned or by tribunal. But at this point by the time you over turn the decsion or go to tribuneral your JSA may have suffered at this point as sancation or suspension because your too ill too work or seek work. Surley this is unlawful at this point and a scandel if this is happening

    So if anyone can help out with this and please state if you have only ever recieved a ESA65 and was left without your letter that gives you your appeal rights please

    Comment by Shandy — September 9, 2012 @ 1:17 am

  192. Hello Shandy.

    Well as you can see we are still here, three years later and after all that time these people are still at it, trying every trick in the book and still getting away with it, and we on this Blog and the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org are trying to stop them.

    You’ve made an awful lot of observations through sheer experience and I know everything you say is the truth because I’ve been hearing it for over three years from hundreds of others, it’s true, the DWP are lying through their back teeth, they are also withholding vital evidence from the appeal service in order to weaken peoples appeals, the complaints procedures are nothing but a joke as well.

    The DWP are nothing but criminals, just outright crooks and charlatans, they are nothing but a shower of bastards in my opinion, just scum, I detest them, and when this is all over I want these people who are responsible to be brought to justice for crimes against the people of Britain.

    I don’t know what to say to you other than to say that you are not the only life they have ruined, they have ruined mine, they have ruined my friend and co-editor Nelsons life as well, and they have ruined thousands upon thousands of peoples lives from all over this Country.

    The people who are doing this are cowards, they know what they are doing is not only morally wrong but outright criminal, not one of them as far as I can see in the last three years has had the guts to stand up and say ‘NO, THIS IS WRONG, AND I WILL PARTICIPATE NO LONGER’ as I said, not one of them has the guts.

    Join us on the above forum, we need you, we need everybody.
    Help us, and when we win, which we will do some day, then help us Show them no mercy in the future, because they have shown us none.

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 9, 2012 @ 2:52 am

  193. Does anyone know if been on work activity related group for nearly 4 months and just rec’d letter from ATOS to go for another assessement on th 30th oct I am freaking out……I was made to believe by my esa advisor at JCP that I would not have to go to the jobcentre for 2 years once I am on this programme and also the advisor at CDG interviewed me said that I am going to be with them for 2 years so don’t understand why I have to go for the assessment at ATOS again…….what must I do? Don’t think I am able to take the stress of it all again after going through it all,

    Comment by Anonymous AB — October 11, 2012 @ 8:05 pm

  194. Hello Anonymous AB.

    Now let me see, the DWP advisor told you ? well that explains it then, he told you so it must be true.

    DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING THESE PEOPLE TELL YOU, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT I’M GOING TO REPEAT IT, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THE DWP TELL YOU.

    HONESTLY I’M IN DESPAIR WITH PEOPLE, I REALLY AM, HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THIS.

    THEY DON’T GIVE A F***K ABOUT YOU ME OR ANYONE, YOU NEED TO GRASP THIS AND GRASP IT QUICK, THEY ARE GOING TO STITCH YOU/US UP LIKE A KIPPER, I CAN’T EMPATHISE THIS ENOUGH. THEY DON’T LIKE PEOPLE WHO GET ESA, THEY DON’T LIKE PEOPLE WHO WIN APPEALS, THEY DON’T LIKE ANYONE WHO IS ON SICKNESS BENEFITS WHATSOEVER, IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE THEN YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS, THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED WHETHER YOU LIVE OR DIE, YOU ARE AN OBSTACLE AND IN THEIR WAY, THEY WANT YOU OFF BENEFITS AND THEY WANT YOU OFF THEM NOW, AND IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON THEM THEN GET TO UNDERSTAND THIS AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN.

    SORRY IF I’M COMING ACROSS AS BLUNT AND VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD, BUT SOME PEOPLE REALLY NEED A KICK UP THE ARSE.

    SO GET THE MESSAGE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASE.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 11, 2012 @ 9:06 pm

  195. Hi dwpexamination,

    Your response was very harsh but true so thank you!!!!…..I really feel worse that already do.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — October 14, 2012 @ 9:57 am

  196. Hello Anonymous.

    Sorry if my response was harsh, and not trying to make you feel worse, but trying to make you understand that this is no joke, this is a fight, a struggle for your very survival, and sometimes we need a bit of a kick up the backside to get us out of cloud cuckoo land, once we understand the reality then all the easier it is to fight these people.
    Good luck and let us know how you get on.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 15, 2012 @ 7:40 am

  197. hi guys, i have an appointment in November,worried sick,i just wanted some advice if pos. i have a ruling from the supreme court awarding my benefits after they got stopped some years ago, will this hold any weight with atos or dwp?
    as i think it might show them how far i will go, when i was asked by the commissioner what i would do if he did not grant me my benefits back, i told him i would go to the newspapers and then to the E.C.of human rights. he was away about 20 mins and came back and said,”he was giving me my benefits back on a point of law i crossed over him without me realising

    Comment by luke — October 18, 2012 @ 7:46 pm

  198. Hello Luke.

    Your new assessment is just that, a new assessment, I think you’ll find they don’t even know about your conversation with the Commissioner, and even if they did know they wouldn’t give a toss.
    ATOS and the DWP take the view that since you were last assessed there may have been an improvement in your health, and that’s why they will arrange for you to be assessed again, and after that assessment and you are found unfit for work either through the decision maker or a tribunal then as soon as you get word you are unfit for work another envelope will pop through your door from ATOS to start the whole process again.
    So you see, it’s going to be a constant battle until we get rid of ATOS, because if we don’t get rid of ATOS then this circus will never end.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 18, 2012 @ 10:05 pm

  199. chears, i will take that with me,i am also going to play them at there own game i will keep everyone updated as things unfold.thanks to everyone on this site we may get rid of atoa and be free to get on with what lives we have.STAND UNITED!

    Comment by luke — October 19, 2012 @ 10:59 am

  200. just a thought, important for me hopefully others,not if but when i lose my sickness benefit will that mean i will automatically lose industrial injury benefit ,dla all in one swoop and my mobility?

    Comment by luke — October 19, 2012 @ 11:47 am

  201. Don’t know about the IIB Luke but they sometimes use the assessment to take away your DLA, so get advice on that just to keep yourself right.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 19, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

  202. thank,will do i will keep all informed in step by step actions i take and and how i got the results i get. thanks again.luke

    Comment by luke — October 19, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

  203. Cheers Luke, stay cool and hang on in there..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 19, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  204. hi, had an appointment at Plymouth Atos, arrived in time and was informed they were running an hour late, and told i would have to wait, i refused and politely asked why you did not have the decency to contact me and inform me of this, she replied that they had tried to fone me, when i presented my fone and said no such call had been made, she then replied OH, we did try, but didn`t have time, i went straight home, foned them the next day and asked them who is their governing so i can make a serious complaint to them, received a letter a few days later from Atos, telling me to attend another appointment, i tore it up and put the pieces in an envelope and posted it off to Atos saying that i hope they can assume what i would like Atos to do with their forms, also informed them that i have never in my life come across such total and utter F__king incompetence, received another letter from Atos headquarters, saying they are making an investigation into the issues i have raised, ( namely my frustrations at Atos cancelling the appointment at such short notice ) they seem to be digging themselves a big hole so far, and then to top matters off, today i get a letter from DWP informing me i didn`t attend my appointment, and that i need to give a pretty good reason why i didn`t attend, F__king amazing, firstly they lie to my face at the assessment centre, in front of a witness, then they lie to me in a letter, stupid bastards put it in writing, now they lie to DWP saying a didn`t attend,,going back to Plymouth Atos Sunday to take some pictures of the place for my appeal when its likely to come up…Nig, cornwall

    Comment by Nig. — November 10, 2012 @ 7:08 am

  205. Hi again, Just a small add on, i wonder if there are anyone who out there who could send me a picture of their local Atos concentration camp, i know my benefit will be stopped, and intend to give them one hell of a fight, i have all my medical records, which i may add cost me £50 to obtain, and i don`t intend to hand them over to Atos unless they pay me for the privilege, what i do have is a lot of time on my own, and that time will be spent harassing them and wasting as much of their time as i possibly can….Nig.Cornwall…Thanks…….

    Comment by Nig. — November 10, 2012 @ 9:03 am

  206. Hello Nig.

    Now let me get this straight, they claim to have phoned you ? but didn’t have time ? then they grass you up to the DWP claiming you didn’t attend, you just couldn’t make it up Nig no matter how you tried. Atos are a joke outfit, everything is about profit and fallacious figures to present to their DWP masters. There’s absolutely nothing attractive about ATOS is there ?.

    I see you would like some help to get a hold of some pictures of ATOS centres, you can possibly get that help at our sister site, just think up a username and log in, go to the general discussion page and just ask.
    http://www.dwpexamination.org

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 10, 2012 @ 9:39 am

  207. Hi there, Thanks for that reply, forgot to add, my daughter is a fully qualified barrister, and i can prove that with the amount of money she cost me over the years to get it, so hopefully i`ll be seeing if she can repay some of that love and tears i lost on her behalf…thanks again…Nig..Cornwall…

    Comment by Nig. — November 10, 2012 @ 11:19 am

  208. Was due to have ATOS assessment on 31st Oct,had requested home visit on ESA50 form initially, they forwarded my appointment to 24 thnov 2012 after my GP faxed letter for them to decide as no decision was made re home visit, was told by them they would write to me before 24 thNov, well nothing received as time for appointment coming nearer so just called them and was told my file is still with the doctors (What doctors) I thought and was told if I haven’t heard by wed to call them…….so chase them all the time, causing unnecessary stress to us which we don’t need all due to their incompetence.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 16, 2012 @ 11:54 am

  209. Let them contact you anonymous, don’t worry they won’t forget you..!!

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 16, 2012 @ 1:52 pm

  210. I know….but if I haven’t heard by friday about home visit what do I do as appointment on sat 24/11/12!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 19, 2012 @ 8:32 am

  211. You could write a short reminder letter to ATOS and a Copy to the DWP, prompting them for a response in writing with regard to your phone call on such and such a date for a domiciliary visit for an assessment on your fitness to work etc.
    Also remind them that your GP has already faxed a letter of support for a home visit, and since time is getting closer can you confirm that the 24th of November is definitely an appointment for a home visit.
    When they receive it on say Wednesday you can expect a phone call either confirming this Saturday or another date to be assessed, of course if they do phone you then make sure you ask for any dates of being assessed at your home, or in fact any kind of promises that it will be confirmed in writing as soon as possible.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 19, 2012 @ 10:13 am

  212. Thank you for that just posted to ATOS and copy to DWP recorded delivery and have kept a copy.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 19, 2012 @ 3:21 pm

  213. Just got letter from ATOS cannot have home visit as not enough medical grounds received from my doctor, if I don’t go my benefit will be effected…….trying to speak to my GP today also have a very severe cold this week on top of everything else so feel so down and depressed.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 20, 2012 @ 10:54 am

  214. Hello Anonymous.

    Could you check your letter from ATOS again, your benefit WILL be affected for non attendance, it usually says MAY be affected, there’s a difference.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 20, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

  215. It says if you choose not to attend this appointment your benefit may be affected…..sorry was so upset earlier misread the letter
    I also managed to speke to my GP he couldn’t understand why they rejected home visit request as he had put everything on it to support my request.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 20, 2012 @ 6:37 pm

  216. So your benefit may be affected ? and the reason why they put MAY rather than WILL is because they want to force you to attend their centre rather than visit you at your home.

    So why MAY rather than WILL ? well the reason is if they put MAY as opposed to WILL then any attendance by you is own your own free will, they will argue that they didn’t say they WILL stop your benefits but MAY stop your benefits.
    So the choice is yours, refuse to attend on the grounds that you have GPs support, or give in and take what’s coming to you.

    A letter reminding them that you have your GPs support, and will attend their centre by being carried in, if anything happens to you (Fall, take ill, break a leg, anything that affects your health because you acceded to their wishes) then they, and they alone will bear full responsibility.

    End with, so I will ask you once again, do you wish me to attend your centre by (being carried in) for an assessment on my fitness to work and at the same time willing to accept responsibility if anything adverse happens on the way to or at the assessment ?.

    If you are willing to accept responsibility, then please inform me in writing and let me know as soon as possible, because I will contact my Member of Parliament and hand over a copy, my GP will receive a copy, and the Guardian newspaper will receive a copy, they will all most likely be interested to see what happens if I do take ill .

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 20, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

  217. I will post the letter first class tomorrow morning but not sure if they would respond by friday knowing them….as time running out appointment sat which they deliberatly do so we don’t have time to respond to them.The 2 letters I posted on mon recorded delivery cost me nearly £3.00.
    I refuse to give into these people.Got to stand my ground.See what happens!!!

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 20, 2012 @ 10:33 pm

  218. received a reply from ATOS interrogation headquarters this morning, as anticipated it found in their favor, accused me of being rude, and totally fabricated the rest to make me out a liar, then had the cheek to tell me they had 2 telephone numbers on record for me, and the one they used to fone me was taken off the computer, and did not correspond with the one on the form, strange really, as when i foned plymouth ATOS the next day to make a complaint, the guy read back to me my valid fone number, taken off his computer there, returned the letter they sent to me, ripped into shreads telling them i assume they know what i would like them to do with it, also that i have copied it and intend to complain to DWP, and i have made an appointment to see my local MP, they lie to me, have the sense of a peanut brain to put that lie in writing, and accuse me of being a liar..what a F____G state this whole sordid affair come down to…Nig. cornwall

    Comment by Nig. — November 21, 2012 @ 12:27 pm

  219. I have my 2nd ATOS appointment on 24th Nov requested a home visit my GP faxed letters etc a month ago after chasing them for a decision got letter yesterday saying Not authorised on the medical evidence received by my GP and if I choose not to attend this appointment my benefits may be affected.Speaking to my GP he had provided enought evidence for a home visit…..I also have very bad cold on top of all the other problems due to all the stress…I don’t have enough time to respond as only got 3 days before my appointment and don’t know who to turn to for advise on what I can do.I am on ESA have severe IBS,depression,anxiety, back and knee problems.I have worked all my life (37 years) until I was made redundant than all this kicked in and now made to feel I am a scounger…..Please help

    Nelson advised me to contact my MP ( thank you for your emails to reassure me )….emailed him lastnite and responded saying he will call ATOS ask for home visit, I had further email from case worker for MP saying my enquiry has been raised with ATOS on my behalf that was this morning, not heard from ATOS on what the decision is re home visit or have to attend assessment on sat, time is running out, probably have to call them tomorrow making me even more stressed.Seems like they are really not even taking notice of MP’s phonecall.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 22, 2012 @ 6:34 pm

  220. Update…… got a letter from my MP with copy of ATOS email sent to him yesterday23 rd Nov morning saying my assessment for today 24th Nov has been cancelled and a home visit has been agreed, thank god don’t have to go, but nothing from ATOS to me, I was at the hospital all afternoon when they called and left me a msg to call them back by the time I got back and called they had all gone home, looks like they are hounding me to book home visit appointment already.So amazed by my MP’s representation within 2 days……have total faith in him to support me if I need him which no doubt I will do so when appeal process starts.
    Have to prepare now for the home visit!!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 24, 2012 @ 9:31 am

  221. Anonymous AB.

    Just make sure you get some kind of confirmation, preferably in writing, god only knows what kind of stunts ATOS are capable off or what they’ll do next.

    Comment by dwpexamination — November 24, 2012 @ 10:19 am

  222. Thank you…….. I have it in writing a letter from my MP confirming ATOS have agreed for home visit and he has also sent me copy of ATOS customer service response saying ……(this is to confirm that all evidence has been considered and a home visit has now been authorised.My appointment for the 24th Nov has been cancelled and I will be contacted in due course for a convenient appointment to be arranged)……..so he has a copy too if they pull any kind of stunts.

    Comment by Anonymous AB — November 24, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

  223. had assessment in luton for pip benefit waited about 30mins was there on time took my partner no one else was there in waiting room. I suffer from borderline personality disorder and being assesd for d.i.d its dissasotiative something they not quite told me exactly what that is but I have suffered some halutinations severe anxiety insomnia ,black outs,and on 300mg atrolak quetiapine anti phycotics any way the guy seemed quite nice im not sure if he trying to fool me (maybe by these reports but also refered to me he has a middle daughter and could think of me like her) .I think he was trying to tell me hes going to treat me the the same he would his own daughter but will be very eager to see what comes back whether he has given me faulse security and faulse hope or not will let u know .I really hope not as appealing esa aswell atm so got no benefits at all ,cant go on jsa as they will say u need to be fit for work so riding it out hoping for the best just glad I have a good partner ……annamous young girl

    Comment by young girl — October 30, 2013 @ 1:14 am

  224. Hi Young girl.

    Let’s hope for the best, but we know what they’re like.

    Comment by dwpexamination — October 30, 2013 @ 8:57 am

  225. The cdg said they sent an appointment i did not recieve it and normally they send a text message the day befor to remind me this did nit happen either now threatened with no payment im diabetic need money for food suffer anxiety my mum died at christmas funeral january i have reached rock bottom theres only one way out of this miserable existance

    Comment by linda mclaughlin — February 12, 2014 @ 3:20 pm

  226. Linda…it’s dreadful, that’s what they’re doing now, kidding on they are sending appointments, just looking for an excuse to sanction people.
    You must appeal immediately, if they insist they sent an appointment letter and you didn’t receive it then it’s obvious they never sent it, all your letters are received by them don’t they ?, so you have no option but to appeal, that’s all there is for us.

    I’m due to be reassessed soon, and I expect they will insist they sent an appointment, then the sanctions will start, if this happens I will use the only option available and appeal on the spot.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 13, 2014 @ 7:48 am

  227. why is no one fighting for are humane rights

    Comment by linda — February 13, 2014 @ 9:30 am

  228. People are…just not enough of them I suppose.
    There’s no excuse, especially now when Cameron has announced that this is a very wealthy country, and money is no object.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 13, 2014 @ 11:18 am

  229. lol… i was reading your post out loud to my Mum here with me, all serious we were, then the wig come up in your post… in fits we were. lol.

    Comment by Mark Bartlett — February 27, 2014 @ 2:44 pm


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