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Did you see on the fiddle the other night? I did, I think it is a great programme as it demonstrates the typical behavioural patterns of the DWP investigators. Take the Italian chap for example. Up to the point where they were following him in his car they had no evidence whatsoever that he was withdrawing money from the accounts of benefit recipients. This did not bother the DWP investigator who had already made his mind up that this (up untill he actually committed and offence) innocent man was in fact guilty. Yes folks the DWP investigator was judge, jury and executioner and illustrated this by his foul mouthed outburst, which was shown on prime time T.V. To recap he said something like ” go to the cashpoint you bastard”.
Point one, the man under observation was simply driving down the road, not committing any offence?
Point two, I thought the law said innocent untill proved guilty?
Point three, what right has he to call anyone a bastard?
point four, can this be viewed as a racist remark, given the victims nationality?
point five, why did he think he could get away with using such an abusive term whilst being filmed?
Simple, because these arrogant, narcissistic fools think they are above the law, I can not stand people who make illegal claims and wish the DWP luck in tracking them down, however, they must realise they are governed by the same laws we are and shpould look before they leap.
I’ll be back
Well, the DWP…
There are two different types of fraud as I mentioned on the below blog post:
http://harpymarx.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/its-all-about-scroungers/
‘Minor’ and ‘Major’. Minor fraud suspicions result in benefits terminated without acknowledgement and without further investigation they wont stick your benefits back on, you would have to reclaim. Major, as silly as it sounds are allowed to happen. As highlighted in Saints and Scroungers, people who are suspected of non-petty crimes are not under radar (once case was someone who had come out of prison for a previous offence, allowed to claim and no one kept an eye on his claim) when they do finally discover someone may have ripped off the taxpayer they then do length spy operations.This is because it is better when they rack up to large amounts and when someone has been doing the same acts over and over again daily or weekly for 6-18 months. Not good for the taxpayer though.
2 notable cases: one being a person who claimed Housing Benefit for a house they owned! (dont they even bother checking that?) and the other was someone stealing identities (people who left country) and making claims to benefit all at the same physical address (under different surnames).. suspicious? noo…
Now back to minor… say they suspect that you are not actively seeking work for a week or that you owned a website that they tried to pass off as being capital (even though worth well below the amount you are allowed) they will either pull your lifeline away or in the second case send someone round to fill in a new claim form.
They are almost all a bunch of dumb scum.
Comment by New Deal — September 7, 2009 @ 6:00 pm
Admittedly, there are a small number of “fiddlers” in the system, however, programmes like saints and scroungers are notably more interested in cases of extreme fraud as they make better viewing! I believe the ratio of bad to good stands at 2 bad to 1 good for S&S and sadly, is usually the case in so called nvestigative programmes of this type. I usually feel like throwing the TV out the window but force myself to watch this drivel so I can comment with some expertise. I wonder why we dont have a similar programme for those MP’s whp have been fleecing us for years eh….but no, its not to be and the weakest members of society will continue to be tarred with the same brush as the thieving scum who give us a bad name. I wonder hpow many Jobcentre employees regularly fiddle thier flexi time, or thier mileage claims? fraud as you say is fraud and we should be putting those who watch us under the microscope too.
Comment by dwpexamination — September 7, 2009 @ 6:11 pm
I noticed that on S&S there is 1 saint to like between 3-5 scroungers lol.
Sadly for the Government as a jobseeker having to put up with such nonsense I have up the anti and started to expose their multiple billion fraud along with New Deal providers.
The National Audit Office says that £800m was lost to fraud last year. An equal amount was lost due to DWP staff via error… thats a lot of errors considering a single fixed amount for a benefit week is between £45 (at the time) and just over £100.
On the other side… as my blog post below states.. DWP underpaid by £1.2 Billion… hmm I wonder why. http://newdealscandal.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/1-2-billion-dwp-fraud-dwp-underspend-claimants-struggle/
Comment by New Deal — September 7, 2009 @ 6:33 pm
Quite obviously, you’re someone who understands very little about fraud, fraud investigation and fraud measurement.
Firstly, the NAO figure for £800 million is woefully short of the mark -as- a few years back, the DWP set a “Target” to reduce fraud by 50%. They achieved this by failing to count around £1.2billion in “low-level” fraud i.e. anyone caught screwing the system for less than a couple of hundred quid, wasn’t counted as ‘fraud’.
Secondly. How can you measure fraud? Fraud -by its very nature- is a hidden crime until / unless it’s found? People (such as the NAO and academics at Portsmouth University) have attempted to measure fraud, but in reality, any estimates are at best, conservative and at worst, woefully unreliant.
Thirdly, you malign the character of the investigator by stating he was acting as Judge, Jury & Executioner. It is highly unlikely or improbable that the investigator was simply watching an “Innocent” person” driving down the road, he would have more than likely have a wealth of other evidence pointing towards the culpability of his target and -according to Social Security legislation- would be founding his assertion on a ‘balance of probability’.
I can imagine why he used the term “Bastard” to describe his target, like the great many honest benefit recipients (and taxpayers who fund them), those who de-fraud our generous welfare system are deemed pariahs and the decription ‘bastard’ in my opinion is a fairly apt description of the miscreant!
Comment by Richard — November 9, 2011 @ 9:09 am
Do you work for the DWP fraud squad then?
Comment by dwpexamination — November 9, 2011 @ 1:15 pm