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Take the ATOS (miss)treatment

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I am becoming more and more concerned at the way in which the ATOS “Doctors” are operating. As employees of a private company, employed by our Government to asses our capability for work, I assume they are still required to operate within the same parameters of the NHS. They are allegedly “Doctors” and as such must have taken the Hippocratic Oath during which they promise “first do no harm”. From information received recently, this does not appear to be the case, I am sure, as human beings we have rights under the Human Rights Act which protect us from harm as well as any other Oath any “Doctor” will take once they step onto the path of medical training.

When we attend the “Medical” examination at our local ATOS medical centre, we are entitled to be treated fairly and equitably by the examining Healthcare Professional? I think so and therefor, it must follow that their methods of operation must also fall into line with those used by my beloved NHS. This being the (assumed) case, then the “Doctor” should be kind, courteous and aware of our potential health issues and the possible ensuing pain when we are examined. One would also imagine that the rapport between “Doctor” and claimant would be a two-way process as in normal communication, where the “Doctor” will ask a question, listen carefully to the claimant and then make a judgement as he is supposed to do. It therefor also follows that the “Doctor” will not try to trip the claimant up by asking the same question in a slightly different manner several questions later, just to confuse the issue. The “Doctor” should not make idle threats, shout, or become overpowering in any way shape or form, we should not be asked to climb up 2 steps to get onto a medical examination bed which is fully adjustable, regardless of what they tell us. We should not be asked to repeat a demonstrated movement then be instructed by the “Doctor” to “Just lean on the edge of the desk if it helps you” when he didn’t during the demonstration? it defeats the object don’t you think.

I suggest that we make sure our answers are correct, that they are received correctly by the “Doctor” and that those answers are recorded equally correctly by the ” Doctor”. It is our right to be treated fairly and in a kind and courteous manner and to have the answers we give interpreted correctly, not twisted to suit what the “Doctor” thinks best fits his multiple choice answers. I also suggest we make sure we do not fall into the trap of “Just leaning on the edge of the desk” etc, its theer way of justifying the use of terms like “does not fit with available evidence ” in their reports to the “Decision Makers”

It is because of this system that we are suffering at the hands of these charlatans, who blatantly ignore the obvious and carry on regardless no matter what we say to them. It is time to fight back and ensure that we are heard during these alleged personal capability assessments, they are an insult to our intelligence and should be treated as such. If you feel you have been mistreated in any way, then it is your right to complain, and I urge you to do so profusely. I also urge you to back up this complaint with a letter to the British Medical Association and to your M.P.

Lets take the fight to them, let’s make their lives as much of a misery as they make ours, question everything you feel is wrong. Do not let these fools ride roughshod over our rights as human beings, demand equitable and fair treatment and if you don’t get it, shout about it.

I’ll be back

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  1. yes what you say is true we never asked to be ill or disabled if by choice we would rather be fit and healthy but as through time we fall by the wayside have accidents that affect us all in many ways i do think that under those fools of so called doctors that our human rights are being violated as firstly it is not a medical examination in our intrest but only for a goverment that is obsesed with keeping the rich elite in favour and the torys want us back to victoran times where the common man\woman had no rights so it has opened my eyes with the true meaning about camerons big society as i did not see what he was planning yes i to believe we should fight them with our right to fairness and not to be used by the goverment to repay their years of mismanagment the labour party as well so as a partly disabled man myself i had to fight for years to get dla as i had loads of problems with my legs and a few other ailments to get my case won just 3 years ago for the torys to take away again under very unfair means and rulings i wonder if i was disabled and quit very well off and a tory party member would they be treated the same i dont think so please spread the message to all the truly disabled and to fight with all their means to rid us of this tory goverment who treat folk with utter contemt do not vote them in ever again as the torys are not interested in us but only the people with money and the lib\dems they as far as i am concerned like the torys they dont and are not needed in this country our our lives so please i dont know how to but get as many people to help get rid of this coalation of a goverment for good with thamks pmac from edinburgh……………..

    Comment by p.mackie — October 30, 2011 @ 11:22 am

  2. i also agree about the torys i think its about time cameron was removed from the seat along with the rest of his party since they have been in power they have cripple this country all they seem to think about is there own pockets im on dla at the moment for epilepsy but are due up for the medical in two weeks time so i dont fancy my chances by what i read on here now i wonder how cameron would feel if he had to claim dla and join the rest of us who have got to fight for what we should be entitle to so come on everyone lets all stick together and show the torys we are not door mats

    Comment by p.oakley — January 23, 2012 @ 12:32 am

  3. Hello Paul.

    If you are found fit for work then you can get help here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/ and as for how Cameron will feel if he had to claim DLA well you may be surprised to learn that he already has claimed DLA on behalf of his son, only difference between him and you is that he didn’t need to fight to get it.
    And your 100% correct we need to get rid of them, here’s a comment left in the Guardian this morning.

    MelKelly

    22 January 2012 9:53PM

    The social fund is being scrapped in England – the social fund provides community care grants (used by the disabled, elderly and children coming out of care) and crisis loans (which are paid back)

    I wrote to the minister for the DWP and asked how many people in England got crisis loans. In 2009 over 2.69 million families in England got crisis loans (one off loans to help meet unexpected costs – with every penny paid back to the DWP

    e.g. your child is taken in to hospital with cancer- this loan helps those on low incomes cover travel expenses and the extra expenses a crisis like this brings

    Your home is flooded, a bad winter and you can’t afford the entire electricity or gas bill

    Now if over 2.69 million families made use of crisis loans in 2009 (in England alone) and paid them back – what are they to do when Cameron, Clegg and Co abolish them

    Well King Cameron and King Clegg have decided to advise councils to send people to foodbanks, especially the Trussell Trust, who just happen to be chaired by the Tory Mayor of Worthing

    So when you are sick or disabled, pregnant or your child has cancer or your house gets flooded or your husband dies and you need a little short term help – there will be none available

    In fact the Tory/Liberal coalition has decided you must use all your resources to pay for the crisis and as they know you won’t have money left for food – you can go to the new Tory Mayor controlled Trussell Trust -

    You can get a parcel of food with no fresh food in it – you must trample for miles to get it and when your are sick, disabled, pregnant, a pensioner – then you must carry this food parcel yourself for miles – you won’t be allowed to get a loan to buy fresh milk, fresh bread, fresh fruit and veg or fresh meat – powdered milk and powdered potatoes for you and your children (no doubt Cameron will bring back powdered eggs too)

    Now you will go cap in hand and say “please Mr Tory Mayor – may I have some powdered milk. Please sir, can I have powdered potatoes – and IF the Tory Mayor of Worthing decides you can be granted a food parcel then you can shuffle in line with the 2.69 million other English families who are now to be denied a little short term help and their dignity.

    But here’s the catch – you can only get 3 parcels of powdered milk and powdered potatoes – no longer can you be trusted to handle money and pay it back – no the Tory party should decide WHAT you get to eat and IF you get to eat

    And as for community care grants – well there is a company who collects household bulky refuse on behalf of councils – now the elderly, disabled and children coming out of care have to go along to this refuse collecter and furnish their homes with other people’s rubbish

    The disabled and the elderly will no longer get grants to help them adapt their home as they require – now the elderly are on their own – as they become infirm they will no longer get grants for handrails and disability aids – now the Tories and the Liberals say they have cured infirmity and these aids are no longer required (just as Athos perform their daily miracles and make the blind see and the crippled walk and the cancer sufferers tumours disappear

    2.69 million English families will now be denied the funds they are legally entitled to – to help meet the massive cost of winter fuel bills -

    Crisis loans cost us nothing – every penny is paid back

    Now if your child gets cancer – you can walk to the hospital

    Now if you have a crisis – Clegg and Cameron will make you line up with cap in hand for a food parcel from a Tory Mayor

    Any funds given to councils will not be ringfenced – so if a Tory Council wants to get nice new offices – well they can use the money meant to help not just the poorest in society – because everyone who is working can apply for these loans if unexpected crisis happen

    Now if we can’t get crisis loans to help with the cost of winter fuel bills – we will queue up at foodbanks – to get food we cannot cook because we cannot meet the cost of fuel

    So we will stand at big society brazier banks

    And as we are no longer allowed to buy fresh bread, fresh milk, fresh fruit and veg and fresh meat with our crisis loan – malnutrician and rickets will come back – costing the NHS hundreds of millions

    And as 2.69 million families stand about the brazier banks we will hear – please sir can you spare a dime

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 23, 2012 @ 6:13 am

  4. My husband was assessed by Atos professional medical practitioner employed by the DWP department in Aberystwyth. My husband suffered with a lung disease called Sarcoidosis, which then leads to pulmonary fibrosis, which then can lead to heart failure due to the pressure the heart is put under due to the lungs not working properly and gasping for breath. This is what my husband had, yet he was assessed as medically fit for work and did not receive any money or benefits which is what they like to call it, until after he died. What benefit is that to someone who is dead? I want to find out what qualifications this man has got to assess my late husband as fit for work, he was not fit for anything never mind work. If anyone can help me find some information on this man then I would be most grateful as I cannot seem to find anything at the moment on the computer regarding this so called doctor Ian Wilson, medical professional practitioner. If for instance he was a qualified practitioner, then surely he would have some knowledge on sarcoidosis, clearly not, as he stated on my late husbands report (over time the client will improve in health with the right medication and treatment), well how wrong can you be, my husband ran out of time thanks to him, putting an enormous amount of stress financially on top of his illness did not help him one bit. As my late husband and myself have worked since leaving school, paid our taxes and national insurance and never once claiming any benefits from the government, I feel it is pay back time. My husband was 53 years of age and leaves two sons, one who is only 13 yrs old. I intend to fight this and I will do it for my hard working, kind and caring husband.
    Mrs. J Simpson

    Comment by Mrs J Simpson — March 21, 2012 @ 12:49 am

  5. Hello Janet.

    You could make a start by finding out his reg number and looking up the GMC website and see if hes registered to practice in Britain, ATOS employ DRs and Nurses who are not licensed to practice in Britain, and so does the NHS it’s unbelievable but these people are a law unto themselves http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116878/Danger-doctors-ignoring-sanctions-practising-powerless-GMC-fails-police-bans.html and so it seems the General medical council can do nothing about it.
    Ian Wilson is an extremely common name in Britain, I wouldn’t be surprised if their was at least a dozen Doctors maybe even more so named in Britain, that’s why you need that Number.

    Comment by dwpexamination — March 21, 2012 @ 2:09 am

  6. I got a copy of my medical examination report today, it has took them over a month to gratify me with their disclosures, got most of my files under the data protection act as well.
    I have just over a week to comply with their deadline for appeal, but they did say, because it took them nearly a month to send the document, i may be allowed longer to submit my files for appeal, if appropriate.
    The report was on the whole very fair, but with quite a few discrepancies.
    The HCP stated that she did not check my blood pressure, or do any other examination, because she didn’t feel it appropriate due to my visible severe abdominal pains, due to crohns disease, bowel adhesion’s, and gynecology problems, nothing was ever mentioned about checking my blood pressure, or any form of physical examination.
    She wrote that i have no problems with my mobility which is untrue, because i suffer from RLS, and often have sciatica, due to spinal atrophy.
    I have been placed in the WRAG group, do you think it is worth me appealing against this, to get put into the support group for the time being, as i have new medical evidence to support my present problems, based on a recent hystroscopy?
    They delayed in sending me a copy of the medical report, but were very happy to give me a date for an interview at the job centre in two weeks time, at 8.30am in the morning, which is a no go with how i feel at the moment post procedure, another appointment was agreed later on that week at 10.30 am.
    If i appeal against the WRAG group to get put into the support group for the time being do you think that my benefit could be stopped altogether, and the Tribunal finding me fit for work?
    I have a job to go back to?
    FEEDBACK PLEASE.

    Comment by alisonsgypt — April 7, 2012 @ 4:29 pm

  7. There was no points system found visible on the copy of my medical report, where would i find this?
    Also would i have gained 15 points if i was placed in the WRAG GROUP.

    Comment by alisonsgypt — April 7, 2012 @ 4:33 pm

  8. Hello Alison.

    Can I ask, are you on Income related ESA ? or Contributory ESA ?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 7, 2012 @ 8:14 pm

  9. Hello Alison.

    To get ESA, any kind of ESA then you have to get 15 points, that’s the law, some people are just getting letters saying they are granted ESA but the WRAG hoping they wont appeal to get in to the support group.
    You should ask the DWP for the score sheet, that tells you how many points you were awarded and how they were made up etc.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 7, 2012 @ 8:18 pm

  10. On contribution based ESA.
    You have taught me so much thank you thank you, if i decide to appeal, will do it as litigant in person.
    THE DWP ARE AS BAD AS SOCIAL SERVICES SO I HAVE NO FEAR WHEN I DEAL WITH FAMILY COURT CORRUPTION ON A DAILY BASIS.
    My co workers are doing all the leg work with regards to that while i am ill.

    Comment by alisonsgypt — April 7, 2012 @ 8:21 pm

  11. Don’t they usually send the score sheet with a copy of the medical report?
    I guess the client should always ask for this, as they have got no brains between them?
    Do you think i should appeal, as i am frightened of loosing what i have got
    The HCP was a Nurse, i feel that she is not adequately trained to deal with crohns and other long term gastro conditions.
    By the way they have sent me another limited capability for work questionnaire form to fill in, but no letter to state when it has to be back to them by, don’t know if they have done that in case i appeal.
    FEEDBACK PLEASE, YOU ARE A REAL GODSEND.X

    Comment by alisonsgypt — April 7, 2012 @ 8:32 pm

  12. Does anybody know if there is a legal issue with this new “limited work” test, and people who have been medically retired for life by their employers ? I satisfied the trustees of my ex employers that I would no longer be able to carry out any kind of employment, I also have been classed as incapable of working by the DWP for the same amount of time which is some 16 years, now i’m told i must go for a medical assessment, ive been told by the pensions ombudsmans office that if the DWP now say i can do some form of work i will lose my ill health retirement pension, but to come back to them if that happens….I just can’t believe that this Government can get away with this…does anybody know of anything that may be able to help me ? I’ve two GP’s, one was angry that I’ve been told i must go through the medical process after he had confirmed my illness’s etc that was sent in with my completed form. thank you in advance.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 7, 2012 @ 9:10 pm

  13. Hello Alison.

    That’s the reason why I asked if you are on Contributory ESA WRAG, they are going to stop it after a year and it’s retrospective as well, but they can’t touch you if you are in the support group, that’s why you got ESA without a fight.
    Yes you can see the reason and you must appeal to get in to the support group, so get as much medical evidence and appeal.
    You have to ask for the score sheet because they give you nothing if you don’t ask, you can understand now why we are fighting these bastards for all we are worth.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 8, 2012 @ 7:14 am

  14. Hello Alison.

    That’s the reason why I asked if you are on Contributory ESA WRAG, they are going to stop it after a year and it’s retrospective as well, but they can’t touch you if you are in the support group, that’s why you got ESA without a fight.
    Yes you can see the reason and you must appeal to get in to the support group, so get as much medical evidence and appeal.
    You have to ask for the score sheet because they give you nothing if you don’t ask, you can understand now why we are fighting these bastards for all we are worth.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 8, 2012 @ 7:14 am

  15. So, nobody here has had the situation where that if they are now told they’re” fit for work” that it conflicts with their ill health retirement pension ? I’m refering to those that have been medically retired by their employers and have been entitled to incapacity benefit too. surely, this Government can’t think they can make up new rules that completely conflict with those that have been medically retired for life ? I see major Sh*t hitting the fan for David Cameron..

    Comment by Anonymous — April 10, 2012 @ 10:22 pm

  16. Thet can, do and have just watch the TV every day there is some Law they are tinkering with. There are people in your situation, they have just not responded please join our forum at http://www.dwpexamination.org where you can put your question to others in a similar situation.\

    cheers

    Nelson

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 11, 2012 @ 7:03 am

  17. hi can anyone help me i failed my medical got that dreaded zero points..i made a complaint to atos ..with regards to th elies that the nurse said about me … i e i removed my coat and i bent down and i carried to bags all a load of bull i was so annoyed that i wrote and told atos that the nurse was a big lier lol….i have now rec a letter back stating i should of been seen by doctor and not a nurse also the form i filled in esa50 stating that i had tia ect was not noted or mentioned in the face to face medical and that atos have now contacted the dm for consideration …im not trying to be thick i am so any help would be appreciated were do i go now .

    Comment by dwpajoke — July 10, 2012 @ 7:55 am

  18. You can only wait until you see what it says on the reconsideration letter, meanwhile anticipate the DWP will be unsympathetic and will reconsider nothing, write a draft letter to your MP and explain that ATOS have conceded their assessment was not fit for purpose but the decision maker has ignored them, wait for the letter from the DWP first and if you see a complete absence of delight then finish of the draft letter and send it on to your MP as quickly as possible, then contact your local welfare rights or CAB and explain the situation and wish to appeal, can they help etc.

    There’s some good news, with that evidence from ATOS themselves, winning an appeal will be easy because along with your own evidence and that admission from ATOS the appeal panel will find in your favour on the spot, all money the DWP owe you will be backdated until the date the DWP decision maker found you fit for work. Remember up until the appeal is heard you will receive the assessment rate so you will not starve.

    Comment by dwpexamination — July 10, 2012 @ 9:59 am

  19. I have my 2nd ATOS assessment soon,the last lady who did my first one was lovely and I’d say fair and honest. What worries me is a few years ago through my doctor’s advice I applied for DLA, the doctor attached to ATOS came out to my house to examine me. I didn’t get awarded DLA, I appealed and got copies of his opinion of his assessment. I was appalled to read some of the things he wrote. When asked if I could lift a pot/pan I said no yet he had ticked yes. From seeing me stop and start going up my stairs having to lean on my wall he determined I probably could walk more than I said(basically calling me a liar) and said at end he did not think my condition would get any worse. I had an MRI a few months after that assessment and it was determined there was more damage done to my cervical vertabrae than even I knew and had written about. I didn’t bother fighting it as I just thought it was a corrupt system, I did eventually get ESA WRAG and I worry that he may be the one to do my assessment and certainly do not trust his honesty and fairness. Do I have right to refuse to be assessed by him because I don’t trust his honesty? My appointment is on Monday.

    Comment by ERobertson — August 4, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

  20. Hello ERobertson.

    When did you get your first assessment ? before 2009 ? everything changed after November 2008, the nice ATOS assessors became nice on the outside only.
    Ok, that said, this new assessment possibly with that evil man ? It’s unlikely that you will get him again, but not impossible, if he does darken your door, then you can get on his case immediately, he won’t like that, too bad, so if he leaves then you can request another assessment.
    An alternative is to contact ATOS and tell them your concerns, so to avoid a confrontation they will send something else.

    Comment by dwpexamination — August 4, 2012 @ 1:59 pm

  21. Thanks for the reply, It was 2010 I had my medical assessment at home for DLA but May 2011 that I got my ESA assessment at ATOS offices. It was a nurse that did my assessment at the ATOS office last time so I’m hoping its different teams that do DLA home visits and ESA office visits

    Comment by ERobertson — August 4, 2012 @ 4:44 pm

  22. Ive been retired on ill health for 8 years. I get my private pension and incapacity benefit. I was getting £97 a week incap, and they have reduced it to 53p a week? They sent me a form to fill in to “migrate” to ESA, and I told them the things I cant do like bend, walk, grab things, write, lift and they have said I must attend a work focused set of sessions geared to returning to work!
    IM MEDICALLY RETIRED !!!! Its cost me almost £200 to get proofs. Noone will listen to me… im going to a tribunal they say…. im in a right mess. The mad thin is guess who examined me and retired me from my work in the NHS 8 years ago ?? ATOS!!!!

    Comment by kafur — September 16, 2012 @ 9:49 am

  23. That’s right Kafur, ATOS find you unfit for work to get rid of you out of your job, and then they find you fit for work so that you don’t get any benefits. it’s madness.

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 16, 2012 @ 11:20 am

  24. had an atos medicalon 22nd june(3rd) ihave so far had no reply in writting or an atos report.i recieved a letter stating that as my wife works part time i would get no money.phoned dwp and was told i have been put in wrag .asked twice and written to dwp asking to have this in writting but still waiting.

    Comment by Anonymous — September 24, 2012 @ 11:38 am

  25. If you believe you shouldn’t be in the WRAG then you can appeal for the support group, just send them a letter and ask for a GL24 form and remind them that you wish to see your ESA85 assment report because you would like to appeal to get in to the support group, the reason ? I don’t agree with the decision makers opinion that I should be in the Work related activity group.

    By the way the 365 day rule doesn’t apply if your in the support group of contributory ESA, it only applies if you are in the WRAG contributory ESA.

    Comment by dwpexamination — September 24, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

  26. I attended an ATOS MEDICAL APPOINTMENT in southampton uk in july 2012,
    They sent me a threatening letter saying ” FAILURE TO ATTEND WILL RESULT IN YOUR BENEFITS BEING STOPPED,
    So i attended & made the appointmwent, the woman doctor i see that day was DR JACQUELINE KNEEN ,
    i explained to her about my chemically poisoned illness i got from working at FORD MOTOR COMPANY IN SOUTHAMPTON using BANNED CHEMICALS made by DUPONT, in which 3 of my old work collegues have since died who used the same banned chemicals back in 2001,
    i also showed her all my mediactions i have to take for the rest of my life too , even showed the ATOS DOCTOR medical paperwork given to me by my own GP too that backed up my claims of sickness , plus explained to her that every month i had to see my GP for updates plus given a medical certificate every month to cover me for every period of my illness,
    I got a report back from the DWP saying that my benefit has now ceased & that i was awarded 0 points from ATOS .

    in the ATOS REPORT is stated that i was smartly dressed, looked clean , & that i spoke politely & that i was even having a conversation with a stranger in the waiting room too , even what i was saying to the other person in the waiting room , i could not believe what ATOS had written & what outcome this COMMISION EARNING DR JACQUILINE KNEEN had written to have my legitimate ESA EMPLOYMENT SUPPORT ALLOWANCE) STOPPED.

    just to remind you ATOS MADE £8.5 BILLION LAST YEAR … from the suffering it causes to disabled & ill people ,

    ATOS NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR GOOD.

    I AM STILL AWAITING MY APPEAL OUTCOME & FOR A COPY OF THE FULL MEDICAL REPORT compossed by this commision earning ATOS DOCTOR.

    Yet if you are a heroin addict of an alcholic then ATOS will leave you alone because they dont want to impose on their human rights ? what about the poor disabled & ill people who are victims of this ATOS NIGHTMARE ?

    If you have an appointmewnt with ATOS MEDICAL ,then my advice would be ,,, DO NOT ATTEND unless you take your GP & A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE WITH YOU ….

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED….

    Comment by mike — October 15, 2012 @ 1:09 pm

  27. Hiya i received a letter 2day asking me to attend a medical assessment with atos, i had 1 in july then received a letter from dwp saying they had put me on the highest rate, so i dont understand why 4 months later im getting asked 2 do the questionaire again, does any1 no what this means as im really worried ,,i hated the last assessment i really dont want to go through that again,, plz any1 help
    thankyoi.

    Comment by leannr — November 17, 2012 @ 5:25 pm

  28. on and on we go

    Comment by stu — November 20, 2012 @ 6:56 pm

  29. I was wrongly discriminated and victimisedd by Atos Health who gave me zero points.i receive mental health treatment and substance rehab and extensive dental including severel medical problems. Councillors and MPs have written on my behalf and 10months on the DWP have placed on work group and i should be in support Group ESA income related. I am thinking of contacting the newspapers and racial equality council. As
    the DWP have increased my depression and due to my frailties they exploited me. They have ma de my life a misery with their relentless tyranny. If anyone can prob

    Comment by nazrul islam — December 19, 2012 @ 10:48 pm

  30. Hello nazrul.

    I don’t know your personal circumstances but I can tell you that ATOS healthcare discriminate against us all, they don’t care what religion you are or what colour of skin you have, they are stuffing us all over.
    If you feel you should be in the support group rather than the wrag then you can get all the help you need here to compose an appeal http://www.dwpexamination.org

    Comment by dwpexamination — December 20, 2012 @ 12:12 am

  31. i am now aawaiting to see a atos dr again i was put on esa and then 8 months later was told we aint paid you enough.
    i went to see the dr and they do reapeat question i say you just said that why reapeat it also ask me to take my coat of as its warm i said dont want to im cold its winter
    also i went last time always same one i have really bad mental health issues due to magor problems family and health also my pal was found hung and he was seeing atos they poo pood the stuff he said
    he cried out for help
    when i went its oh how are you sit down blah blah
    its can you lift a bag of sugar NO I USE SWEETENERS i bent over and having bad synosuses streams of well liqid came out had this years he said oh thats normal i said what snot running out my nose as muse as this is normal my gf said mine dont run
    he then tested my hears im deaf in my left one i hear about 10% in my right i had to stand with a finger in my ear he whispered something three times i said i cant hear you
    from this report said can hear somei know with my back to them at 15 foot away in a crowded rom ? yeh right also ive bad eyes one long one short ive had one catorax removed another coming on other ive had an injory in my right one and i get bleard vision he put me down as have 20 20 vison? no daft head.
    he then said do i go out shopping io said no my son does this online or goes out i hate been in crowds also get panicy as i was attact in street he put down as ok with folk?
    also with my mental state ive told them with proof ive had 8 years of poo at me and deaths with folk that are very close to me ive athsma ibs and diatavicular carpol tunnel bad in my right hand that can lock up he put down that i am slightly fed up he said do i read i said no hate tv i listen to music if tv is on i just stie at it i just no interset in it
    i appealed and i got my cpn mental nurse to do a letter and sent my own letter to the appeal saying ask my dr for ionfo and i got the esa i hate the places atos nah they are clever mouths and smarmy so and so.s i didnt want mental problems yet boozers and drug usrers get more help and they caused the probs they have just look at job centre plus notes all over if you are a drug usser and or booze we can help ..But if you say you mentally impared its like yr a vampire and oooh no go away get a grip or help yr self i have tried and problems come back its heard e

    Comment by bridlington — February 3, 2013 @ 1:42 pm

  32. Hello bridlington.

    As far as mental health issues goes, it might be best to concentrate on special circumstances 29(b) or 35(b) of the ESA regulations.
    This is called special circumstances because if a person is a danger to them self or others in a workplace then they can be exempted from work if they can prove it.

    You don’t even need to prove it in a letter to the appeal panel or even on a GL24 appeal form, you only need to prove it at the appeal (provided your GP has given some kind of support), because the Dr on the panel will ask you questions on your mental health, and how you answer them will determine whether you receive 29 or 35 or nothing at all.

    There are certain questions they ask, for instance can you go to strange places on your own ? meaning without someone to guide you etc.
    How do you adapt to new situations (For instance a reschedule of your day) without warning ? and there are other questions of a similar type, google and look up the 29 and 35 regulations and see if they apply to you ?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — February 3, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

  33. thanks very much i take ages to do this on here noit to ingrossed on a pc i have to go out with someone with me as i get affraid i did remember when he said do i have a home telephone i said yes they wrote i can read a phone book i nevers even said anything about a phone book really put words into yr mouths i think i tried to work but the stress on the job at a shop set my ibs off so had to finish

    Comment by bridlington — February 3, 2013 @ 4:09 pm

  34. Many years ago I Investigated ESA and discovered the TRUTH. When Tony Blair was PM, he wanted to FORCE sick people back onto Jobseekers Allowance. He didn’t care how bad anyone’s condition was. The various Sickness Benefits made that an almost impossibility so they came up with a single Benefit for all; ESA. His second problem was he knew the NHS would NOT Deliberately LIE about someone’s Medical Condition to give him what he wanted. He would need to use a Private Company. Enter Atos Origin I.T. Services. Yes an I.T. Company. After Many Secret Meetings it was agreed that Trading under the name Atos Healthcare, they would become the Medical Side of ESA and DLA. They agreed to Falsify their Medical Findings.
    Blair’s third problem was where he would get the £100 Million a year to pay Atos. They came up with the answer. Remember the £1 increase in Income Tax? Blair said it was to give to the NHS. Not to replace any money it was getting but to give it the extra. THAT money went to Atos, not the NHS.
    Isn’t that Obtaining Money by Fraud and Deception. Misappropriation of Public NHS Money. Theft and Grand Larceny. Defrauding the Public and Crimes against the Public? When a Government Attacks the Public they are Attacking the Sovereign’s Subjects. Isn’t that Treason?!!

    I informed the Fraud Section at New Scotland Yard of my Findings. They REFUSED to Investigate. Doesn’t that make them Guilty of Collusion, Conspiracy, Aiding and Abetting and Accessory.

    As ESA replaced ALL Sickness Benefits and Blair’s Government stated many times that ESA was NOT a Sickness Benefit, that makes it Illegal. The Constitution and Our Human Rights Guarantee a Sickness Benefit for those who need it.

    Comment by johnnymitchell82 — May 19, 2013 @ 4:39 pm

  35. Well johnny…that’s good detective work and kudos to you, some links would be great if you can get them.

    Yes I agree it would be a crime under a democracy, but this is not a democracy, it’s a Dictatorship with the police operating as the private law enforcement on behalf of the powers that be as apposed to the people..!!

    And 90% of the population are to immersed in either Coronation street, East enders and/or the Jeremy Kyle show to see it.

    FUCKEN IDIOTS.

    Comment by dwpexamination — May 20, 2013 @ 12:24 am

  36. can you appeal to the European court of human rights agains atos and the dwp

    Comment by Anonymous — June 23, 2013 @ 8:36 pm

  37. Hello Anonymous.

    You need to exhaust every domestic avenue first. and that can take years, you don’t think Tony Blair would have signed it if you could do it the following month after you had your first grievance do you…?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 23, 2013 @ 9:23 pm

  38. First of all you do not need to go the European Court. That is a last resort if the Court system in this Country shows it is as Corrupt as the Government. You take the Government to the High Court. When Blair wanted to Illegally Force the Sick, Disabled and Incapacitated off Sickness Benefit and onto JSA he needed a Private Company to do the Medicals. After many secret meetings with Atos Origin IT Services they agreed to give Blair what he wanted with Fake Medicals. To pay Atos ‘Healthcare’ the just over £100 Million a year he raised Income Tax by £1 saying it was for the NHS. Not to replace any money it was getting but to give it the extra. That money went to Atos Healthcare what was left the Government kept for itself. That was Obtaining Money by Fraud and Deception. Misappropriation of Public NHS Money. Theft and Grand Larceny. Brown and Cameron’s Governments are Guilty of the same Charges but this Government even more so with their Criminal Changes to the DWP. Not forgetting Crimes against the Public and Medical Crimes against the Public. (Atos are Guilty of the latter two as well as taking Public NHS Money) May I point out the Public are the Sovereign’s Subjects. When you Attack the Public you Attack The Crown and THAT is TREASON. A Final Point…
    If people contact the British Medical Council and Report Atos Healthcare for a Deliberate and Premeditated Breach of a Doctor’s Ethical and Hippocratic Oath, they HAVE TO Investigate. When they do that they will have no choice but to find against Atos Healthcare. Those so called Doctors should be kicked out od Medicine.
    Unless of course the BMC are as Corrupt as the Government and Atos.

    Comment by johnnymitchell82 — June 24, 2013 @ 10:47 am

  39. I have now Reported Atos healthcare to the GMC. I have Accused them of Medical Crimes against the Sick, Disabled and Incapacitated to ensure they DO NOT get the Benefits they are ENTITLED to. The doctors who work for Atos Healthcare are Guilty of a Deliberate and Premeditated Breach of the Hippocratic Oath.

    I can’t wait to find out if the GMC are an Honest Organisation or are a Party to the Medical Crimes against the Public.

    Comment by johnnymitchell82 — December 13, 2013 @ 4:28 pm

  40. I reported the HCP who came to my home, He has lied to the DWP. The assessment [aborted] was videod and I had a witness present. the GMC said did not come within their remit and to complain to ATOS. Waste of time on both counts

    Comment by k davies — January 16, 2014 @ 8:40 am

  41. I received a Reply from the GMC on 7th January 2014. It seems they are a JOKE and Government lackeys. IT IS THEIR JOB to Protect and Maintain the Health and Safety of the Public by ensuring Proper Standards in the Practice of Medicine. IT IS BEYOND ARGUMENT that Atos Medicals are a Fraud, yet the GMC REFUSES to Investigate. It is time the GMC were replaced by Proper Medical Professionals instead of the joke they are now!!

    Comment by johnnymitchell82 — January 16, 2014 @ 12:15 pm

  42. Hi K.

    It would only be a waste of time if you were the only one who was complaining, but you can be assured that thousands are complaining, which is making ATOS very uncomfortable, and also strongly indicating to the GMC that there is something very rotten in the state of not only ATOS but this whole system.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 16, 2014 @ 12:18 pm

  43. The GMC are part and parcel of the old boy network, and you are correct nothing but a joke, the jokes on us though because they are all in it together.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 16, 2014 @ 5:00 pm

  44. Since receiving the GMC’s reply I have spoken with a Barrister who Specialises in Medical Matters. He was shown the GMC’s letter and his response was, ‘Nonsense’. He advised me to reply to their letter and what to say. He wants to read their reply when I eventually get it. It seems they have dug a hole for themselves and the question is how deep do they intend to make it before Legal Action is brought against them!?

    Comment by johnnymitchell82 — January 17, 2014 @ 8:59 am

  45. That’s a good point Johnny, how deep in there do they want to go, I suspect not very far, they just haven’t been challenged properly yet.

    Comment by dwpexamination — January 17, 2014 @ 11:29 am

  46. I saw DR JACQUELINE KWEEN like one of the other people who have commented above I’m from west Sussex… the woman was very very rude she kept ignoring my mum when she was trying to explain to her about my problems at home and I also told her about my essential tremor that I’ve hard for years the doctor and neurologist said I had it and she kept saying no you don’t it’s just anxiety and totally dismissing it saying I had no physical problems when I do she also asked me to put my arm up and I said I couldn’t because I have a very large painful lump and it was VERY painful so without asking she starting touching my armpit and saying there was nothing there but I kept my arm down because it hurt too much… she did not listen to a worse me or my mum said and tried to say I had nothing wrong with me BUT I’ve recorded the whole thing and my doctors will prove I have essential tremor! I also tried to complain and all I said on the phone was I’d like to make a complain about this doctor the woman on the phone said no she’s a lovely doctor so I don’t know what you’re talking about and she hung up on me before I got to explain why. GET RID OF ATOS AND FIRE DR JACQUELINE KWEEN.. I had a panic attack when she left!

    Comment by Nicolle — April 10, 2014 @ 9:30 am

  47. I have been pestering the GMC to Investigate ALL the Doctors who work for Atos on the Grounds of their Fake Medical Reports. NOTE, I said ‘the Doctors’, not the Company. All Doctors have to be Registered with the GMC to Practice Medicine in this Country. It IS within their Authority to Investigate those Doctors. I found out MANY people, including REAL Doctors, complained to the GMC about the FAKE Medical Reports following Work Capability Assessments. If the GMC DO NOT Investigate that makes THEY Guilty of Knowingly Allowing Medical Malpractice in this Country. A number of people have DIED as the result following an Atos Doctors Fake Medical Report. That is Deliberate and Premeditated Murder and would make the GMC an Accessory. I was informed someone at the GMC Informed Atos of my Demand for an Investigation. Bad news for Dr Jacqueline Kween and the rest of the quacks that work for Atos…you are ALL going to answer for your Crimes and get banned from Practicing Medicine in this Country.

    Comment by John Mitchell — April 10, 2014 @ 11:02 am

  48. The GMC are in on the scam, they know all about ATOS, and they know what their remit is.
    The so called (money for nothing really) General Medical Council hope to bury their heads in the sand, just stay in denial and hope all this bad publicity and horror dies down through time.
    They could quite easily do something about it, maybe even end this nonsense by forcing Doctors to respect the Hippocratic oath and stop fabricating assessment reports, but the GMC choose to do almost nothing, in my opinion that makes them accessories.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 10, 2014 @ 12:05 pm

  49. Sorry I mean DR JACQUELINE KNEEN not kween… I read one of the posts on here about her a few days before I saw her and I wish I listened so if you are reading this and you have the same woman from west Sussex south coast England please ask to see someone else I wish I did and always record on your phone you don’t even have to tell them just make sure you’re prepared

    Comment by Nicolle — April 10, 2014 @ 7:45 pm

  50. Does anyone know if I can get another medical assessment done by a different person? As it was done quite recently

    Comment by Nicolle — April 13, 2014 @ 3:33 pm

  51. The Government tried to pull a fast one here. The Law States you can have a WCA done by anyone the Secretary of State Recognises.as a Health Care Professional. The ANSWER is simple. You write to the Secretary of State and ask this simple question – ‘Does the Secretary of State Recognise the NHS as a Health Care Profession and does he Recognise NHS Doctors as Health Care Professionals?
    He has no choice but to say “YES” because if he said he did not recognise the NHS as a Health Care Profession and NHS Doctors as Health Care Professionals HE WOULD BE ENDING HIS POLITICAL CAREER!! Once you have that conformation, you can have your WCA done by a Hospital Specialist.

    Comment by John Mitchell — April 13, 2014 @ 5:27 pm

  52. John…I’m sure the secretary of state will find some bullshit excuse to justify why he allows amateurs (the dregs of Europe) like ATOS and CAPITA to carry out assessments on peoples fitness to work.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 13, 2014 @ 10:02 pm

  53. How ? what’s up with the fixed assessment by the last person ?.

    Comment by dwpexamination — April 14, 2014 @ 12:18 am

  54. The Secretary of State and this Corrupt Government know that Question I mentioned is one that CANNOT be answered. If the Sec., of State said ‘YES’, the WCA Fraud would be over. If he said know, as I said, THE PUBLIC would kick him out of Politics.

    Comment by John Mitchell — April 14, 2014 @ 7:28 am


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