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The smiling assassin

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Albert Schweitzer is attributed with the saying “Constant kindness can accomplish much. As the sun makes ice melt, kindness causes misunderstanding, mistrust, and hostility to evaporate”. There is a ring of truth to this quote, which applies to all who are caught in the web of deceit weaved by the DWP. I am talking about the regular monthly visits to the smiling Assassin at the Jobcentre you and I are forced to endure and upon which our benefits depend.

Is it just me, or am I being cynical in suggesting that our alleged “advisors” (smiling Assassins) are trained to appear sickly sweet and understanding on the outside, whilst disguising thier cold and calculating innercore? I don’t know about you but I am always wary about what I say to my “advisor”. During my last visit I was rather surreptitiously probed for information relating to my health, with particular reference to what my Doctor had to say about my condition during my last consultation with him. I chose not to comment saying that was entirely the business of my G.P. and reminding my “advisor” that they were there to assist me In seeking training and supporting me into work rather than prying into my personal life.

These people will tell you they are not making notes of what you say to them, they are not making judgements, they are not making observations, if this is the case then why mention it.? The best advice I can give you is reveal nothing of a personal nature, if they ask you about your current state of health tell them to speak to your G.P., when they say they are just making conversation just do what I do and say in a proud voice. “You may say what you will, but my relationship with the DWP has not been good in the past and try as I might I can not bring myself to trust or have confidence in confiding in any one of you. Please feel free to try and change that perception”.

Bear in mind, these people are trained to interrogate you and will whenever possible extract every useful morsel of information they can. Keep your visit short and sweet, don’t volunteer an information, wherever possible answer yes or no, do not be drawn into conversations about how you feel, constantly be on your guard. Remember, these people will make notes on your personal file and will look for inconsistencies, so do what I do and carry a concealed dictaphine  (they cant search you) and refer carefully to it when you are making your own notes about your visit at home. Keep accurate records, this may be useful when they eventually stop your benifits and you are forced to take them to a tribunal.

That usually does the trick,  whenever you are dealing with the smiling assassin, be firm but fair, and remember, they do not trust you, so its reasonable to treat them likewise.

I’ll be back

6 Comments »

  1. This is true -more of the ATOS HCP- she smiled and then did a evil and incomplete and contradicting report-after complaints by me she is nw being referred back to her manager and maybe training given(what a load of old bull this excuse was.
    Anyway back to the matter at hand no JCP advisor has any rights to ask you about your confidential medcial hisory they are not HCP they are like you and me except they are well and have a job.Yes they are there to take information that you wish to pass to them and find ways of supporting you(yes leave me alone to get better you blood suckers) You cannot get water from a stone but the goverment seem to think you can. If you are too ill to work leave the claiment/patient alone his/hers GP now what they are doing when they feel their pateint is well enough to work i ma sure this will be discussed…the goverment has taken away the right for this with a GP/Patient. So sick/disabled people are suffering degrading things because of the DWP new powers. How long will the people of this country keep taking this before a stand is made against the unjust and evil that is happening? Beware any advisor ATOS/DWP

    Comment by Sandy — July 3, 2010 @ 3:54 pm

  2. The interviewer at ATOS cried at my story , i did feel sorry for her , she said i need to tell her how it affects me on a day to day basis , i couldnt articulate , and neither could she ! It may be paid well , but a thankless task all the same ! i feel they should just get the monkeys in the job centre who are not qualified at all ! It would save them money , and still come to the same nil points ! . i cried mostly all through it and had to be sent home in a taxi , however the box was ticked coped well at interview ! It is a joke ! Guy at job centre added insult to injury when i appealed , that the medical is designed to ‘ help us ‘ He was a skinny balding middle aged idiot , not much brain power there , but its a job !

    Comment by rosie — February 3, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

  3. Ha ha maybe we should incite a RIOT?… ohhh sorry demonstaration ! something needs to be done ! However we could be fit for work if we do this ! ha ha

    Comment by rosie — February 3, 2012 @ 3:06 pm

  4. Hi can you hellp me how I tell them I need recoding assessment can you let me know thank you

    Comment by Kadir — June 27, 2012 @ 12:18 am

  5. Hello Kadir.

    Obviously you are going to be filling in an ESA 50, this is the form ATOS send you, inviting you to visit them to be assessed, notice they threaten that a non attendance can (will) affect your benefits. On that form look at page 2, you will notice it says ”Tell us about any help you would need if you have to go for a face to face assessment”. So simply write on there that ”You wish to have your face to face assessment recorded and I understand that ATOS will provide the recording equipment and I will receive a copy of the recording immediately after I have been assessed”.

    Comment by dwpexamination — June 27, 2012 @ 7:37 am

  6. hi, just had my atos assessment which i secretly recorded. if you go to the one in leicester on halford st then be careful the doors are very heavy and also the chairs in the assessment room are made out of cast iron or somethin. i asked the lady to help me pull it out. im sure they log how easy you find moving the chair or maybe they worried sommeone pick one up and beat the crap out of them. basically she went through my form with me which i had left mostly blank and she made mistakes re the parts i had filled in. lightly touched on my shoulder injury for which i am receiving treatment and then went into my mental health. she was asking largely irreleveant questions and anything else she asked at this stage i answered by rtelling her to speak to my doctor. she was particularly snide when trying to ascertain if i had a social life,hobbies,mobile phone,internet connection,and car. when asked about how my condition affects me i explained how i have been in situations where the police have been called and she decided to bring my assessment to and shortly after. she told me i would be ok and would probably not have to return. no idea what that means. when i asked her she shut the security doors. lots of fake niceness all the way through.

    Comment by nas — October 3, 2013 @ 1:54 pm


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