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some tips which may help.Quote case law where ever possible.R(IB)2/09.CIB/360/2007.CIB/407/1998.
CIB/3074/2003.CIB/476/1998.CIB/511/2005.CIB/664/2005.CIB/1006/2008.CIB/5065/1997.CIB/1244/1997.CIB/12/1996
CIB/15262/1996.CIB/14587/1996.CIB/166/1998.CIB/14722/1996.CIB/15804/1996.All
these can be found if you google.You will notice certain parts of medical report
have headings IE.”client states”.The definition of client states is “a verbatim
account of a persons spoken words.As the questions and answers in these sections
are mechanically accquired and manually manipulated,everyone should challenge
these sections as a matter of course.Check medical report timings,check for
contradicting statements.Check doctors degrees of movement of limbs against list
of same in ESA training manual which can be found online.look at LiMA v2
technical manual which also can be found on line.leave no stone unturned
tribunals cannot ignore case law.
by allmeans email if i can help with anything else.
Couldnt save the email address, please re send comment…..
Initially I was furious at the arrogance of the alleged ‘Doctor’ and his condescending, uncaring and unprofessional manners during my alleged ‘examination’ (Which the DWP freely admit is not a ‘normal’ medical examination). Then I was worried that the alleged ‘Doctor’ would ensure I lost my benifit . Then I decided I was entitled to my benefit, had paid more than enough into the system to warrant claiming it as I have a genuine need at the moment, and finally, I decided if they want to take my benefit away they were going to work for it.
So lets break it down, when I read my ‘medical’ report, I immediately found several glaring inconsistencies. These were generalisations, assumptions, misrepresentation of my answers, misdiagnosis and lies. To begin with, the DWP clearly free their alleged ‘Doctors’ of any guilt by stating that the Doctor is not responsible for any decision relating to your benefits, what they do not tell you is that his ‘medical report’ clearly helps the ‘decision maker’ arrive at his/her decision and is the main evidence used in the decision making process. So in other words, don’t blame the Doctor, he’s only doing his job? This also serves another purpose in that the DWP can hide behind their Doctors lackeys, when you take them to a tribunal.
The ‘decision maker’ can then hide behind the fact that he/she relied on evidence provided by an alleged ‘Health Care Professional’ (the only thing wrong with that title is it contains three words that do not apply to the person carrying out the ‘medical’ examination!) They fully expect the tribunal to accept the word of the ‘Health care professional’ over that of your own G.P. that is until they get the notice that they have to attend a tribunal and settle on the steps. It is now common knowledge that more appeals are being settled in favour of the benefit claimant, and the DWP are settling out of court more than they have ever done in the past.
So what can we do then?
I am still waiting for the hammer to fall, I originally decided should this be the case I would challenge it, however, I am now going to challenge the ‘medical’ report regardless of what happens and more to the point I am going to try to have the alleged Health care Professional disciplined to boot.
I feel it is important to pursue these cases to the end, whether the DWP want to settle out of court or not, remember, by settling out of court they are admitting defeat, or better still, that there is no case to answer and their reliance on so called Health care professionals is suspect. I will also have a go at the decision making process, these fools are dealing with our lives and put us through unbearable levels of stress just to flex their muscles. Well, I have news for them, I’m going to flex my muscles right back. So I say to you, challenge everything, ask the questions they don’t want to hear, seek legal advice on how you can proceed against individuals, not the organisation, take them to the wire.
Remember, they have to prove you are not eligible for benefits, and if you aren’t, why don’t they prosecute you for making a bogus claim?
Remember, they would pursue you relentlessly through the courts if you made a fraudulent claim.
Remember ,by taking your benifits away this is what they are accusing you of doing!
and if they try to settle out of court, I will instruct my solicitor to act accordingly and pursue the DWP lackeys responsible for the anguish and stress caused by thier actions as well as the cost of any legal advice to that point and any future court costs
I’ll be back
You may be interested in my site, its new, so not much on it yet, but your welcome to join and post your point of view. http://www.ukbix.com
Comment by ukbix — July 4, 2009 @ 2:37 am
Your welcome to visit ukbix (forum about benefits, discussions etc) its new, so all posters with stories to tell are very welcome! http://www.ukbix.com
I hope you have seen a welfare rights advisor about your appeal, success rates are higher if you have someone representing you at appeal (be it advisor or solicitor etc)
Comment by ukbix — July 4, 2009 @ 2:39 am
Thanks, I might just sign up. Though I doubt my input will be of any use as my opinion of the DWP is so negative…
Comment by dwpexamination — July 4, 2009 @ 6:34 am
Thanks for your good advice, I appreciate all the help I get but I am going to represent myself, I think I need to. These fools think we will fold under the pressure of a tribunal and rely upon our own infirmity to work against us. The only reason a case goes to tribunal is that the DWP think thay are on a sticky wicket by stopping your benefits, I am taking this to the wire, win, lose or draw. If the decision is not a favourable one I will take it further. Please keep watching, as I will be posting the outcome good or bad.
Comment by dwpexamination — July 4, 2009 @ 6:41 am
I have just found your site and found it informative. Ihave got my medical next week not looking forward to it at all, will let you know how i get on.
Comment by LOZZA — July 4, 2009 @ 3:25 pm
Good, I hope my cynicism didn’t put you off too much, give us a description of the office you go to and its location. Be as detailed as you can it may help other ATOS victims. Don’t forget to take notes and ask the alleged doctor to read back their findings so you can correct any inconsistencies. Always assume these fools are liars, that’s what they think you are and treat them cautiously but firmly. Look out for irrelevant questions like what kind of car do you drive. Oh and take my advice, get someone to drop you off, I did and still got marked up for mobility. Of you can,take someone in with you who can take notes, get them t do so throughput the ‘examination’ it unnerves the alleged doctors something chronic. Good luck and let me know how you get on http://www.dwpexamination.org.
Comment by dwpexamination — July 5, 2009 @ 6:34 am
Dont worry if your content is negative, the site is after both sides of the coin.
Negative true stories (minus anything that would identify you or anyone) and postitive stories (again no identities etc).
If the site ends up more negative about the state of benefits etc then thats just a reflection what is happening out there.
Alternatively, it could end up with lots of success stories if the DWP are doing their job properly, come to think of it, if they are doing as good a job as they keep claiming, then there shouldn’t be anyone complaining…
We complain about the DWP on site ourselves when we feel it required, and will praise if appropriate…
But at present, its new, so its going to take a long time to build up content, and get the discussions rolling…
Comment by ukbix — July 5, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
As for the tribunal, unless they have changed recently, they should be a very different experience from your medical.
They are normally easy going, and will do their best to try to put you at ease.
There should be no bombarding you with questions, and they should give you time to answer, and they will listen carefully to everything you say.
They are also usually quite aware of ATOS, and the standard of the reports, and the problems with the software etc, so it should not come as a suprise if your report was innacurate or procedures were not followed properly at the examination.
Its a fairer process than the medical by all accounts, and the main thing is to come over as a credible witness..
Good luck!
Comment by ukbix — July 5, 2009 @ 12:48 pm
Thanks for your support Ubix, It ids quite obvious from my missive that I despise the DWP and ATOS and am in fact treating them with the same contempt they treat me. I am glad you seem to be a bit more objective, however, thyere is am old addage I would like to quote which sums up my situation “if you kick a dog, dont be surprised if it bites you”.
Comment by dwpexamination — July 6, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
I must say Ubix you are the first person who has offered anything positive about tribunals. Have you been to one?
Comment by dwpexamination — July 6, 2009 @ 6:21 pm
Hi, yes I have been to a few tribunals now, all of them due to ATOS reports.
Won every single one of them.
I have heard of people who have had bad experiences at tribunal, but touch wood, so far I have not had that experience with a benefits tribunal yet.
I do feel that it is only a matter of time before I do get a bad result, as statistically if you go to enough tribunals, one day your bound to get someone in the tribunal who is in a bad mood, or takes a dislike to you, does not believe you etc.
But so far, like I say, each one has seemed a lot fairer, than the medical process.
Comment by ukbix — July 7, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
ps – it really is worth seeing an advisor as the success rates are fairly good if you dont go with an advisor to the tribunal, they are even higher if you do take an advisor to the tribunal.
I believe their is a welfare rights agency in your local area (going by where you said the examination took place) that is free and specialises in benefit appeals, they can talk to you about your case and if they think there is a case will get someone to go to the tribunal with you, there details are
Sunderland City Council Welfare Rights service, The Cornhill Center, Goschen Street
Tel 0191 553 5303
If you are not seeing a advisor it may be worth giving them a ring… Its free, no obligation etc.
(Im not associated with them, just looked up the nearest one in your area)
Comment by ukbix — July 7, 2009 @ 11:35 pm
Excellent news, how about giving us a tutorial on the format tribunals usually take? this will invariably help others in a similar position.
Comment by dwpexamination — July 8, 2009 @ 7:03 am
Thanks for that Ubix, I have thier number and have thought about calling them. Will keep ypou posted if I do
Comment by dwpexamination — July 8, 2009 @ 7:04 am
hi i have been reading some of your help i am a veteran of the miscarriage on medical grounds, every year i have at least 2 because i have worked all my life anf my stamp is being payed we are the ones most scrutinised by the dwp i have had countless apeals as well most recently for incapacity and now for my disability, i also have industrial injuries which i am about to have a medical for,my cicumstances will not change in the near future but worsen, then you go to a medical an they undermine youre specialist and doctor, by refusing you benefit not listening mind you i make it worse i see red and go off on one thanks though for the comments you made i now fully intend to confront the disability decision maker and ask for the name and will be taking them to court. thanks again Nova
Comment by Nova Murgatroyd — February 21, 2010 @ 10:09 am
i have been fighting dwp over my benefits for over a year.I have been to tribunal and failed due to the fact that the tribunal are only interested in what the law say.I am at the moment waiting orphopedic surgeon and made need more surgery.The dwp have written to my GP to tell them not to give me any more medical certificates the letter from dwp to my doctors was not signed.I have written to dwp reqesting names of persons involed in my claim since march 2009.I want to take dwp to court but cant find solicitors in Doncaster to take it on any ideas on taking dwp to court myself
Comment by mr wifred allen — April 6, 2010 @ 8:56 pm
Try a freedom of information request, that might work. I dont know how you go about taking the Government to court, I thought there were laws preventing it?
Comment by dwpexamination — April 7, 2010 @ 11:21 pm
Failed esa in sept 09, complained to atos re inaccuracies etc.atos eventually withdrew report as not fit for purpose feb 10.Independent tier found for me,atos convenor apologised and offered £100 compensation, derisory and typical of atos.dwp lapsed my appeal. reinstated esa and advised atos to do another assessment,advising me if i passed lol!i would get all money backdated.I enquired how new medical can work in retrospect, dwp don’t seem to know the answer to that one.given new esa50 to fill in as first one is over 8 months old.esa 50 to be returned by may 10.I will have been in assessment phase for 10 months.claiming maladministration on 8 counts against dwp,with district manager at the moment,next move chief exec.everyone must appeal,check medical report with fine tooth comb.complain to atos and dwp dont give in. atos will fight to the end but persist,always be polite it gets you further.dwp staff know whats happening but their afraid to lose their jobs if they speak out
vote labour they will be easier to influence than conservatives believe me.good luck to all,appeal,appeal,appeal.can make all documentation available to anyone interested.
Comment by stan — April 7, 2010 @ 11:51 pm
Thats the spirit, fight, fight, fight. Take it all the way to the bitter end, if everyone did as you are doing thier lives, the DWP and ATOS that is, would be hell and eventually someone would have to take notice. What we need here is some sort of support mechanism to help people with thier appeals, dont know how it would be funded though as the Government wont give money to thise who oppose thier policies. Not too sure about voting Labour though, just on a matter of principle I am against that. Keep us posted.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 8, 2010 @ 12:14 am
Just read new proposals for wca descriptors,disgraceful.Withdraw my comment re voting labour problem is who will be a voice for us?
ps use this email address for comment caught in spam filter.never forget appeal,appeal,appeal!
Comment by stan — April 13, 2010 @ 10:33 pm
Glad to see you have provided the missing email address, I agree, the present Government and the Tories have no idea what its like for us. Cameron and Brown should have more compassion for the disabled given thier own recent private tragedies, for which I offer my deepest sympathy. The loss of a loved one is always traumatic, and as the carer of a disabled person I know how difficult it can be and the effect it has on your own life as well as the person you care for. Does this prove these so called leaders are truly heartless? It was also interesting to read Davids comment on hello and welcome to DWP examination where he makes a comparison with the “New York” model. Labour learned of this and realised if it was applied here people would “drop out” of the system and fall below the radar, thereby reducing the strain on Government coffers used to support the disabled. As far as who to vote for, all I can suggest is you take a look at the other parties, ask thier representatives where they stand with respect to disabled benefits and the use of third party companies like ATOS to reduce the numbers claiming sickness and disability benefits. If you dont get the answer you want to here tell them they wont be getting your vote, they need to know this otherwise they will never change. They hate being told they are losing supporters.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 13, 2010 @ 11:30 pm
District manager replied 12/4/10 waste of paper,have now written to chief exec.I believe only way to deal with situation is to make each and every case cost them as much as possible,mine now must be running into £thousands.
Have you any thoughts on how my future medical can have any bearing on my passed condition with regard to enhancement payments.I think my next move is the parliamentary ombudsman,onwards and upwards!By the way Yvette Cooper learnt her trade in USA probably, left her brain there too.Blunkett gets a £30 thousand a year bung from A4e.It will come out in the future who is getting bunged by Atos make no mistake.Life must be hard being polotician.
three in morning now must try to sleep for an hour at least.keep up the good fight. stan
Comment by stan — April 15, 2010 @ 1:49 am
Thanks Stan, I agree, we should continue our apeals to the enth degree, the more it costs ATOS the less they make out of us. I am sure that when they got the contract some grey suited administraator / forensic accountant sat down and carefully worked out how much each “examination” would cost, against the time and cost of an alleged “Doctor” and the cost of premises etc.etc untill he got down to the bare figure representing the profit made on each encounter. This information will not “officially” exist of course and will be unobtainable, however, any business man or woman with any sense will tell you this is likely to have happened. So the more we press ATOS and the Tribunal system for justice and a fair hearing, the less these leeches make. Well done that man and keep us posted.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 16, 2010 @ 7:31 am
the government based the ESA assessment on the model UNUM(American Insurance company)used to defraud claimants in USA.California courts brought charges based on four points……….
1)an excessive reliance on in house professionals
2)unfair construction of HCP’s reports
3)a failure to properly evaluate the totality of the claimants medical condition
4)an inappropriate burden on the claimant to justify eligibility for benefit
UNUM lost.
It may pay for everyone appealing to list these points in their appeal as Atos is doing the same thing and there is case law (USA) but still quotable, if the DWP see these points enough it might hit a cord STAN
Comment by stan — April 28, 2010 @ 10:41 pm
It also says something about cruel and unusual punishment in the American constitution too, yet they still have things like the electric chair. Say one thing and do another seems to be the order of the day here too.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 28, 2010 @ 10:50 pm
> What can we do? <
Hmm forgive me for being such an arse here, but have we, or have we not got rights?
First right is to appeal.
Put all your anger into words… words are mightier than any ATOS exaiminer.
Appeal… list all you think is flawed and resist the temptation to kill the "doctor" who carried out your examination.
So long as you make it through to an appeal and tribunal… the rest is just honesty and good luck!
Comment by Franka — June 17, 2010 @ 5:12 pm
NO WIN, NO FEE…anyone on here a lawyer, a good one? that wilol help me sue ATOS/DWP? i am prepared to offer 25% of my compensation plus your costs they can pay when they lose
Comment by pete — June 17, 2010 @ 6:47 pm
floridafuntime@gmail.com
Comment by pete — June 17, 2010 @ 6:48 pm
lost appeal on 21 May and still awaiting the staement of reasons. judge awarded nil points.
Comment by pete — June 17, 2010 @ 6:50 pm
when appealing make it clear which descriptors you feel you should have scored points on and why.It is no use just saying atos did not do the medical right,the tribunal concentrate on the descriptors.
Comment by anon — June 21, 2010 @ 9:29 pm
flaws,faults,lies,contradictions must be argued with Atos through their complaints procedure.Atos will always deny everything be persistant and polite,hopefully you can get to the independent complaints panel,they look through all correspondence etc thats why you must state your complaints clearly,politely and persistantly keep copys record dates.if the panel find against atos the medical report may well be withdrawn as not fit for purpose,mine was.Beating Atos is like playing a chess match try to figure out what there next move will be.look for timing errors,contradictions in the medical report.deny the answers are your words.tell them the answers quoted are mechanically obtained and manually manipulated.Finally ask to speak to an esa expert at the dwp,honestly the staff at the dwp are aware of atos failings,explain your complaint to them,most are helpful if you are polite and accurate.Atos and the DWP will use stock phrases to reply to your complaints,point out the errors over and over again it took me 9 months to win.good luck
Comment by anon — June 21, 2010 @ 9:48 pm
most people fail the esa at the first hurdle.Filling in the ESA50 correctly is vital,claimants must expand the answers to every question,fill in the explanatary notes fully,you must make them see the descriptors you are claiming for in this document,the Atos HCP is bound to use the same descriptors otherwise you have an automatic appeal,tell the HCP exactly what you have put in the ESA50 no more no less.If asked if you watched T.V etc answer no! they ask the stupid questions you give the stupid answers,can’t afford newspapers,don’t do any shopping get the picture.
Comment by anon — June 21, 2010 @ 9:57 pm
I agree. Identify each discriptor you are challenging and say why.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 22, 2010 @ 6:37 am
Well done, persistance, patience and politeness pay off in the end.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 22, 2010 @ 6:38 am
Sometimes these things are down to stress, lack of concentration, anxiety etyc. The list is endless, though you must remember to copy your form whichever one it is and take it with you to the medical. That way you can be sure you are not confused by thier”interrigation”.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 22, 2010 @ 6:40 am
I have an appeal pending with the DWP. I have stated my case in writing and have written support from my GP. A number of actual lies were told by the ATOS nurse ie “I can use a star headed tap” When in fact I can not & have had lever taps installed in my home. As such do I have a right to attend the hearing and will it be local ? Or will it be held in my absence ? Thank you for your time
Paul
Comment by Paul Metcalfe — September 13, 2010 @ 1:05 pm
You don’t say what you are appealing for? without more info its difficult to help. Best advice I can give you is to get in touch with the Local Authority Welfare Rights office or the CAB, either may be able to attend and/or offer help with your appeal. Its always best to attend if you can, check out our sister forum at http://www.dwpexamination.org where you will meet other like minded people in a similar situation. Keep us posted
Comment by dwpexamination — September 13, 2010 @ 3:40 pm
in writing to this site i hope telling you of my experience will give those waiting on an appeal some hope of winning it.
i have anxiety problems and have done so for many years..on my first PCA i scored 14 points and on my 2nd 13.Then just last year i got 2 points even though my illness wasn’t getting any better.
I appealed and after waiting a year i finally got a date for the appeal just 3 days ago.
At first i had given up hope of winning as the nurse at ATOS had written so many lies and exaggerations but anger took over and a determination to beat these lairs.
I questioned every descriptor every statement i knew was wrong and i also scoured the Internet for sites like this to get as much help and info as possible.
I know not everyone can manage this but i think the more you do and the more info you get then it can only help.
I had tried the CAB but personally i found their service very very poor and the person trying to advise me didn’t really have a clue.
I know these people do really good work and don’t want to scare anyone from using them,i think i was just unlucky.
I also made sure i got a letter from my doctor and a few letters from close family telling the tribunal of their experiences of my illness.
In saying all this i still expected to fail but hoped i would get up to 7 or 8 points then i could ask for a second appeal.
But surprisingly and happily and i got an extra 13 (YES 13) points.
i know it won’t do any good but i am going to put in a complaint not only about the nurse from ATOS but also decision maker from the DWP.
maybe just maybe if more people do this then something might be done.
i would just advise anyone in the same situation not to give up until you have no more options left.
all the best.
Comment by john — September 17, 2010 @ 1:50 pm
Update. I am to attend a tribunal in the New Year following my appeal which was turned down by the ESA appeals manager. I am receiving the basic rate of ESA until the hearing & also dla full rate for mobility & middle rate for care until the hearing. I have an aggressive form of Rheumatoid Arthritis & told by both my Consultant & GP to refrain from work at least until the New Year as I risk damaging my joints further. I suffer fro pain & stiffness as well as chronic fatigue. I also have a heart problem and chronic stress. i am on medication for all 3 buy the RA is the worst.
Like you the ATOS nurse told DWP unbelievable lies about my on my report my GP hit the roof & is supporting me in writing also. It’s absoluty incredible that a collusion between a govt agency & a private company can be so evil.
The nurse had a poor standard of English & could not even get my 10 different medication dosages correct despite giving her my printed prescription form.I also feel extremely angry as I have worked bloody hard all my life & hate being disabled but live with it. Then an evil person like an Atos nurse comes along & tries to knock you down again. I wont use any guttural Anglo-Saxon but anger is hardly a justified word. I also intend to write a serious letter of complaint about both the nurse ( I have only told a fraction of how unethical she was)& the manager of the ESA dept who agreed with her decision despite my detailed appeal detailing her lies mistake’s & contradictions. I have also arranged a meeting with my local MP.
The DWP & Atos are the real benefit fraudsters and the more genuine complaints they receive in writing the sooner justice will be done. The banks have sent us all into a recession & we believe me aint seen nothing yet, why should genuinely ill people pay for their greed & mistakes ?
Comment by Paul Metcalfe — September 19, 2010 @ 6:54 pm
Apologies for the grammar Google Chrome is great for spelling buy when you have dyslexia it doesn’t help with hitting the wrong keys that make up other words lol
Comment by Paul Metcalfe — September 19, 2010 @ 7:17 pm
truth is, that the government want people off benefit sick or not and even the appeals service is in on the fraud now and going with what the treasury want. i truly think that britain is going backwards to the poor laws which were before the current welfare state. am so sick of this country which treats suspected and actual terrorists with more dignity and mercy than law-abiding bri tish citizens who through no fault of cannot work. i have a 2nd appeal hearing on the 28th because the last one was a sham [appeals service fault] but to be honest i don’t think i will bother. they have the power and they will use it, morality is not an issue for them.
Comment by pete — September 19, 2010 @ 11:15 pm
even the nhs trust here in bolton cannot get their act together and give me a patient file which proves i was unfit for work. the government is right about one thing – get rid of primary care trusts who do nothing but pay managers and ceo’s ludicrously high salaries to make red tape for us all and even breath the data protection act.
Comment by pete — September 19, 2010 @ 11:18 pm
*breach
To be honest, I’ve been going crazy in the past few months over this which has been ongoing since 30 September 2009 when I had the lying Dr Minto Chowdury do his computer directed report on my health. My brother had only died on 4 Septmeber and he was cremated just days before the Atos fiasco. The Dr was told what stress I was under and was having bereavement counselling but he didn’t even mention this in his report, the complete ***t! I now feel like I’ve nowhere else to go and think it might just be better if I was dead. That would be ideal for these evil bureaucrats as they like “problems” to just go away. Sorry for ranting, I just needed to vent, I don’t expect advice on this.
Comment by pete — September 20, 2010 @ 2:46 am
Thats what they want, its obvious you have become a thorn in thier side, keep up the pressure, treat it as a game and you will feel a lot better. By all means vent your spleen here and on our sister forum at http://www.dwpexamination.myfreeforum.org Remember, we will offer you nothing but support here, no one will critisize you or ignore you. Stay with it and put them on thier back foot.
Comment by dwpexamination — September 20, 2010 @ 8:19 am
Dont give in, keep at them remember if they have taken your benefits, you have nothing to lose. Force them to spend money answering your FOI requests, every time you write to themm with a request they hacve to reply, when they do this it costs them money, that hurts them as any profit they have made from you deminishes with each letter.
Comment by dwpexamination — September 20, 2010 @ 8:23 am
i wrote earlier (comment 38) about winning my appeal.
but can anyone tell me do the dwp have to pay back my backdated benefit for the last year and how long should this take for them to do it?
also when i was on reduced rate income support awaiting my appeal i missed out on 4 cold weather payments of £25 each…now that i have won my appeal should i also get these back?
Comment by john — September 21, 2010 @ 9:39 pm
They have to repay all the benefit reduced since their decision you weren’t entitled. As for the CWP’s am not sure. I think they would have to repay. I asked about it but they said I wasn’t entitled to the full rate of IS so won’t get the £100. Just write to them and tell them what they owe you and if the law says they have to, then they will do.
Comment by pete — September 21, 2010 @ 11:18 pm
The only definate way you are going to find out is to ask, write to the DWP, hand it in at your local JC+ and await thier reply. Give them a target date i.e. 14 days to respond, say you have sent a copy to your MP and to your Welfare Rights Advisor, CAB or whoever helped you win your appeal. Good luck and keep us posted
Comment by dwpexamination — September 22, 2010 @ 7:12 am
Yes it’s true, the private health Doctors on these tribunal appeal panels will plumb any depths, turn any stone, try any trick to deny you your legal right to benefits, they are not impartial, some of them actually work for ATOS and other creepy private health firms.
Now if your lucks in, and you get a Doctor on the tribunal panel who doesn’t work in private health, and you have some medical backup, and answer the questions truthfully, then your chances take a dramatic upswing.
How do i know this ? because iv’e had both, and i will leave you to figure both outcomes.
(PS) The doctor who defied me, actually owns a private health clinic connected with ATOS healthcare..!!
now if i had known that before i went in…………..!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by David — September 23, 2010 @ 9:28 pm
(Yes it’s true, the private health Doctors on these tribunal appeal panels will plumb any depths, turn any stone, try any trick to deny you your legal right to benefits, they are not impartial, some of them actually work for ATOS and other creepy private health firms)i
Do you have any evidence of this? Would love to see it and expose them.
Comment by pete — September 24, 2010 @ 1:55 am
Hi Pete.
After my first visit to a tribunal in early 2009, i was appealing against the DWPs decision to withdraw my IB, first of all i have to tell you that my first tribunal was delayed for the purpose of getting a report from my consultant who is a specialist in ear nose and throat.
My main problem was a back injury, but my WRO in his wisdom thought it would be a good idea to get this report at all costs, even though you dont get any points for ear problems, other than difficulties with hearing (And in that case a simple hearing graph from the hospital would do)
Imagine my surprise when i read the report from this consultant and it was packed with lies from start to finish, and as my lawyer expressed it ”Not at all supportive”
So the tribunal is waiting for this consultants report, and i cant show them it because it’s lies, and a clear attempt by this consultant to deny me IB, my lawyer and WRO believed me, because i provided them absolute proof that he lied (It said on the report ”In confidence” he obviously didn’t think or suspect i would ever see it.
I sent him a letter asking if he would change the inaccuracies (cant say lies Pete, because you have to bow and scrape to these people) in the report, but never got back to me, and hasn’t seen me since at his clinic, because he knows i’ll fucking knock him out, the bastard that he is, by the way my Lawyer refused to pay him for the report.
So i thought why would he do that ? why would he comprimise my chances at a tribunal, then i found out the real reason Pete, he works for private health and is contracted to the NHS, private health is his game, not the NHS and these private health firms are all in this charade together, i know it’s hard to beleive but beleive me, please catch on fast, it may save you and others a lot of heartache in the future.
So as i said above Pete, i have a problem, the tribunal are waiting for this so called report, and i cant show them it, and the WRO agrees and asks me what i want to do (sic) so i thought lets just go in and show the proof he is a liar, and i will just take what’s coming to me.
The Doctor on the tribunal wasn’t amused that i had proof i had exposed this fool, wasn’t amused at me for having the gall to do my own research, and wasn’t amused that i had the check to show her proof he’s a fucken liar.
She rewarded me with zero points for my back problems, totally ignored my GPs report, agreed the consultant was a liar (found that out in the statement of reasons) and reluctantly gave me 6 points for hearing.
Six points is as useful as zero points, so i started to wonder why she was so angry, and researched again and found out she owns a private health clinic in the west of Scotland, and is contracted to a well known NHS hospital by contract. (cant get enough money these bastards)
So she works (owns) in private health, and if i had known that before i went in, then i would have found an excuse to avoid her somehow.
Anyway a couple of months later, i went to an ESA tribunal using just my GPs report and got 18 points, that Doctor doesn’t work in private health, i dont know about you Pete, but i started to see a pattern here.
I also found out by researching case law, that some Doctors on these tribunals are working for ATOS or had worked for ATOS, because the person who went in to the tribunal recognised the Doctor on the panel somewhere, after their appeal was denied he remembered where he had seen him, the Doctor had gave him a medical for ATOS on behalf of the DWP some time before.
You can find all that out by trawling through the commissioners reports, if you can be bothered trawling through them that is
So it’s possible to work for ATOS or work in the past for ATOS or any private health company and still be eligible to sit on a first tier tribunal, judging people you have already judged and denied.
I caught on a long time ago, and the WRO at the time agreed the whole stinking business is corrupt and a farce, somebody said these private Health firms are like the fish in the sea ”They all learn to swim, and they all swim the same way together”
You want to expose ATOS Pete sorry mate no chance because these people are criminals with the law on their side, and their not going to be exposed by you, me, or any limp wristed lawyers or MPs or anyone for that matter.
If you were a Doctor and were shown a medical report that was packed with lies from start to finish, would you be shocked ? well these Doctors on the tribunal panels are seeing this day in day out, and their not batting an eyelid, as if it was somehow normal to write a bent medical report.
If anybody wants to delude themselves and start getting ideas that things are going to get better, well they better think again, because it’s going to get worse now that Cam and Clegg are on a mission to get everyone of benefits, the NHS is dismantled, and everyone has taken out exorbitant health insurance.
It’s as plain as day to me what their long term plan is, i dont know about you but i started to see an obvious pattern a long time ago.
The powers that be will tell me im a conspiracy theorist, well thats ok, as long as they concede they are coincidence theorists.
Look lets wake up, were on the train to Belsen , auschwitz or whatever, the only difference is iv’e woken up and i know where im going, the rest haven’t got the message yet and are still snoozing away..!!
(PS) Sorry Pete about the long winded rant, but as you can see, iv’e a lot to be angry about.
Comment by David — September 24, 2010 @ 8:49 am
Hi David, sounds like you’ve had a very raw deal indeed. I agree the law is on their side and the tribunal will likely deny me yet again next week. However, I have quoted in my evidence commissioners reports which warn against relying on the Atos report IB85 which DWP use to do the PCA. What makes me angry is that these tribunals can choose to ignore evidence, however I don’t think they will. They CANNOT ignore case law. It should’ve been picked up at my May hearing and I will be telling them that. The onus is on me to prove it, well that I intend to do. I am not intimidated by these people with power because I know I am a genuine claimant and if I have to go as far as an upper tribunal or even further then I will do it. If we all got together and maybe got in touch with a programmed like Panorama,then we can expose the truth. Until then, all people appealing should win their appeal because it is now in case law that these doctors and Atos’s corrupt LiMA system is flawed and unreliable. To be honest I think that the Ministry of Justice should ensure that all panel members of tribunals are completely impartial and not got interests in private health. Trust me, they will be sorry they messed with me by the time I’ve finished exposing them.
Comment by pete — September 24, 2010 @ 5:40 pm
Hello Pete.
I sincerely wish you the best of luck next week, it’s a terrible situation we have to face.
And you are correct about the LIMA system, they have the cheek to put the word logic in there, let me give you an example of how illogical it is, on my recent ESA 85 it says on page three ”Client can operate an alarm clock, with the help of another person” i pointed this out first of all on my appeal to the decision maker, amongst other things, and the decision maker still disallowed my recon appeal, and decided to pass this nonsense on to a tribunal.
So in a month or two i have to go to the tribunal and explain why i cannot operate an alarm clock, unless i have the help of another person.
Moreover the decision maker has ignored case law, because on my ESA 85 the ATOS doctor said on the bend the back test, ”client declined and reason for loss of function : Pain”. since i didn’t decline the test, but made an attempt to carry out the bend to touch your knees test, the ATOS Doctor meant declined as in bent my knees, (I checked with my GP and he confirmed that declined means cannot, as in cannot do it, as in ultra-vires) then as you can see, the case (Which i quote below) law by Commissioner Williams applies.
Therefore i should have been awarded 15 points for that alone
I quoted the relevant case law which is CIB/15262/1996 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS Who says the test is, bend the back to touch the knees, not bend the knees to touch the knees.
But still the corrupt decision maker (who is untouchable by the way) still insists in hoping my appeal by some miracle is denied.
And to tell you the truth Pete, i dont have confidence in the appeal system, and believe it’s possible i could still lose..!!
As i said, the tribunals know it’s all a sham, but not one of them has the guts to stand up and say NO, enough is enough, this is a fucken insult to my intelligence, and im not participating in this nonsense anymore.
No Pete they just carry on, as if it’s all normal, the type of people that questions nothing, petty fogging dullards that shouldn’t be allowed near a Bob the builders tool kit..!!!!!
(PS) Have you noticed the media are saying nothing.
Comment by David — September 24, 2010 @ 7:16 pm
I also have had my IB refused, after finding this site ,i’ve gone through this medical report with a fine tooth comb, everything i’ve found where it states “i have discussed these activities with the claimant” and the claimant states “there is no problem in this area” even if this does not apply to me its a lie.Am i right to put this down on the appeal letter.
Comment by Anonymous — September 25, 2010 @ 9:23 pm
I would list all of the descriptors and comments from the alleged Doctor and sort them into catagories. Start with outright lies, then assumptions, then those “fabricated” answers like “client declined”. Once you have these identified, write a short challenge to each one, no novels required here just say why you dispute them. The letter should be part of your appeal (I assume you are at the first stage) and should point out the indescrepancies you have identified. Wait fo the DM’s reply, then if you are not satisfied with the result then get intouch with your Local Authority Welfare Rights Officer or the C.A.B. Either one will help you to prepare for your tribunal. If the alleged Doctor has commented on medical areas which he has not tested then these can be challenged too, afterall, he is supposed to be assessing your capability for work and in doing so he should indicate Not Applicable to areas not tested, anything else is a fabrication.
Comment by dwpexamination — September 26, 2010 @ 7:14 am
Great newsreaders, I won my appeal today! Got all 8 points I asked for. So that’s 12 months of stress and worry come to an end. Huge relief. They were so n ice to me too. Thank you Tribunal!
Comment by pete — September 28, 2010 @ 8:25 pm
Hi Pete.
Thats great news Pete, hope i get some luck next month when i go to my trial, iv’e not had much up to now…violins. Ha Ha.
Comment by David — September 28, 2010 @ 8:30 pm
Well done, by making poor decisions on a persons work capability ATOS are condemning genuinely disabled people to months of stress and uncertainty. They rely upon the clients inability to meet thier basic needs to force them into claiming another benefit i.e. JSA to justify thier actions. This result is further proof that the system is flawed.
Comment by dwpexamination — September 29, 2010 @ 6:39 am
Hi
I am trying to find all the information i can about DWP Examinations and ATOS, the reason for this is simple. I am a disabled man aged 38, i was made disabled by the armed forces when i was serving in the gulf, my hospital specialists have informed me that my condition which affects my whole spinal coloum is degenerative so will over time get worse. In november 2008 i applied for for DLA and ESA thinking that due to my situation i shall automatically get the benifits that i am entitled to, i was wrong. I was sent for 3 Examinations all together and ever time the Atos Doctor said i can work nothing wrong with me. I was so angry i sent letters out to the Atos HQ and DWP explaining my situation that lies have been written about me, i got no where and was made to feel like dog Crap really. So i went to tribunal over the two claims and by the time the tribunals finally came to hearing it was July 2010 – nearly 2 years of my life i spent worrying about the tribunal, living on nothing to pay the bills (lucky i got a very hard working wife, and getting more depressed as the days rolled on. In 2010 July i won my tribunals so i thought i had put the DWP behind me and that i can try to live with my disabilities not worrying about the benifits i am claiming, how wrong i am, i had a letter on the 04.11.2010 telling me to go to my local Atos centre for an examination to access the level of disability i am at for the purpose of returning to work. I have decided that if that lieing , Atos employee writes incorrect information about me again i am going all the way, i shall contact all the national papers, get legal help, and let the UK know how the disabled are treated in this country.
Comment by Cynwyd — November 8, 2010 @ 11:37 am
Hello and welcome to our rapidly growing community, if its information you want, you will certainly find it here. Why not join our sister forum http://www.dwpexamination.org where you will find other people in similar situations to your own, loads of support and information on the tactics used by ATOS and the DWP.
Comment by dwpexamination — November 8, 2010 @ 12:56 pm
Hello Cynwyd.
First of all your story is a sad but very common one, please go to whywaitforever,com and you will see someone on there from the forces with the same problem as yourself, i’m sure the information will help you enormously.
Also the sister site above on comment 60 has a lot of information as well..!!
It makes me very angry, you fight for your country and this is the way the bastards treat you..!!
Comment by David — November 8, 2010 @ 2:16 pm
Anyone got some advice about getting compensation from Atos? They are currently dealing with my complaint and I have asked for compensation, but what should I demand or expect?
I am still buzzing after winning my appeal on 28/9/10!
Comment by Anonymous — November 9, 2010 @ 11:32 pm
Cynwyd, let me know if I can help you with letters or going to an appeal.
pete
Comment by Anonymous — November 9, 2010 @ 11:33 pm
Ok that will be great, i have a medical examination at the Atos lie clinic on the 18/11 so about 2 weeks after that i will get the letter from DWP saying i am fit nothing wrong with me go find work, then the request for another tribunal from my self will start, to waste so you may here from me by the 2nd week of December. It is really bad when you know how the system will deal with you before they even open their mouths, isnt it, and you are left thinking how much wasted money is this costing the British tax payer, the system is so wrong.
Comment by Cynwyd — November 11, 2010 @ 1:43 pm
hi
can anyone help, i went for atos medical 6months ago, their statement was full of lies, went to mp actually have letter to show that they lied from a tory mp, i was made redundent from work on medical grounds of a heart proplem atrial filiberation, my doctor to date has again said i am not fit for work i am still under the care of local hospital, went to tribunal on 01/12/10 where i lost my appeal on grounds of i never met the criteria that they look for, if i was not sick i would not want to be on a misely 65 pound a week it does not even pay the bills, so can someone help how do i go to next level appeal, i have also found out recently the doctor that sits on the tribunal could be a atos doctor be warned!! the worse thing about all this was i was made redundent 6 months ago because of my health anybody out there can help!!
Comment by richard james — December 6, 2010 @ 12:01 am
Best thing I can suggest is that you join our sister forum at http://www.dwexamination.myfreeforum.org where you will find a mine of information on this very subject. Please feel free to post your story on the horror stories page and I am sure anyone in a similar position my be able to provide you with the information you require to continue your fight.
Comment by dwpexamination — December 6, 2010 @ 7:48 am
Re: David of Sept 24th….are you seeing a pattern David ? Everyone you deal with lies to you or is a bastard …hmmm..are you perhaps projecting your own personality onto complete strangers ? Why do you and all else here even think that the Doctors give that much of a toss about you to even consider writing ‘lies’ on reports ??? They get paid same amount whether you get your benefit or not ! Same as for Decision Makers, in fact DMs are encouraged to award ! It makes it cheaper to do so ! Think about it, why spend money on disputes if you can award right away..duuuhhhh ! Theres plenty enough work to do without writing Appeals.
If people on here spent half the time trying to get their lives in order and get a job as they do ranting and wasting everyones time and money they’d be loaded by now.
As for that blockhead who thinks its a great idea to waste as much money as possible by pestering all and sundry constantly, then think again more clearly…there literally IS only so much in the pot and only x amount of staff, and if you waste it and DWP staff’s time, then someone who genuinely needs help and has had their fair pop at claiming will get less and less money and time allocated to their own case. Its not a bottomless pit.
If I had a quid for every person who has blatantly lied on their claims for benefit then believe me, I’d go on commission instead of the borderline poverty wages that I am on now. P.S> I am disabled myself, folk on here and benefits shiesters give us a bad name.
Comment by The other side — January 27, 2011 @ 2:09 pm
Dear o dear, you do have issues dont you ? well first of all i didn’t say anywhere that everyone is a bastard or everyone has lied to me.
You obviously work on the lower rungs of the DWP/ATOS or whatever, and i dont have a problem with them, in fact i sympathise and support the DWP call centres recent strike.
Yes i may show my anger at private health firms, because they have done me over time and time again, and i have every right to express that anger, provided i tell the truth, and i have told the truth, and do you know what, i’m not the only one.
Look at all the adverse comments regarding ATOS on these forums, on you go and tell me they are all liars ?
Do you see any positive comments regarding ATOS healthcare ? except for one or two demented trolls.
You wont see any, you know why ?, because they are telling the truth that’s why, so go figure.
Look i haven’t anything aginst you, i mean you no harm, i’m glad your leading a happy life, your comment is welcome, although in my opinion erronenous and poorly thought out.
Any person who works for ATOS actively or even knowing they will be depriving disabled and ill people their legal right to benefits by fabricating medical reports and passing them on too the DWP is in my opinion a criminal, and should be in jail, and if fabricating medical reports really is true, and believe you me it is, surely you can’t disagree with that ?.
For now perhaps… they are safe, but sooner or later they will be exposed for what they are, and they will be defenceless, then watch them stab each other in the back, as they try to explain how they were only following orders.
So if you have any information regarding ATOS malpractice, or positive information in regard to ATOS helping people rather than themselves, then please let us all know about it.
Thank You and take care !!
Comment by David — January 27, 2011 @ 3:29 pm
Dear me, you are at boiling point aren’t you “The other side”! I bet you have had a bad day surfing the internet looking for someone to bug and found us. Let me tell you something, I started this blog around 2 years ago because I had fallen foul of ATOS Healthcare. I was legally entitled to my benefits which were ceased by an alleged Decision Maker who was so spineless he agreed with the alleged ATOS Healthcare Professional. Their opinions and points matched perfectly, I went to Tribunal 6 months later and the alleged HCP and DM’s decisions were massively overturned by a Judge and a Doctor. I was awarded every penny I was entitled to and they had to pay me, I was delighted. There is clear evidence to support the claim that 40% of cases referred to Tribunal are found in favour of the appellant, that means ATOS and the DM’s are wrong 40 times in every hundred, that my friend is an indicator that ATOS and DM’s are working together to reduce the number of Benefit claimants full stop, there is no compassion, there is no fairness, the entire system is very seriously flawed as recognised by Lord Harringtons report, if you read it. Any private organisation and I mean “any” will have targets, targets are always incentivised to promote rapid achievement, ergo, simply by paying them (as well as they do) to do the job ATOS do incentivise their HCP’s to achieve individual targets. Decision Makers are not encouraged to award benefits, in fact, according to information I have received it’s just the opposite, they are actively encouraged to agree with the opinion of the HCP who is working to the same hymn sheet as the DM’s. What ATOS pay their alleged “Doctors” is a closely guarded secret they regularly refuse to reveal as they say “It is not in the public interest” so unless you work for them, have worked for them in the past or are a friend or relative of an ATOS HCP then you do not know what they are paid and are talking out of your arse.
I am the blockhead who thinks its a great idea to appeal and to challenge ATOS HCP’s opinions. I promote the challenging of ATOS HCP’s opinions as I think they are all liars and do fabricate reports. I can prove this beyond doubt as I have won a few cases myself and there are a few others around here who have done the same, or do you think the Tribunals are wrong too? When we challenge ATOS it costs them money to reply, it is their administrative system which is put under pressure and because of that it reduces the profits they make from robbing the sick and disabled. JC+ do very little in the complaints procedure apart from forwarding complaints about ATOS to their head office. When we appeal against the DM’s decision they look at the appeal again and forward it to the Tribunal service and thats it.
I am happily aware that there are staff shortages in ATOS and the DWP, I am aware any pestering by me or my readers is causing the system to back up. I do not particularly have any sympathy for the DWP or their enforcement arm ATOS and frequently say so. I am also aware that there are people “fiddling” the system, however, like the DWP and thier enforcement arm ATOS I have no figures upon which to base any opinion on. Here at dwp examination and our sister forum http://www.dwpexamination.org we do not condone the actions of those particular individuals who are robbing the system and they are not welcome here. I have made that plain from the beginning.
You say, ” If I had a quid for every person who has blatantly lied on their claims for benefit then believe me, I’d go on commission instead of the borderline poverty wages that I am on now”. you must be in the employ of ATOS or the DWP and if you are, how do you know there are any fraudulent claims? I have yet to see any concrete figures relating to Welfare Benefit Fraud and if you are so clever that you can identify a fraudulent claim, why aren’t you doing so. What you are saying seems to indicate you are a bigot and a liar, I mean you no disrespect when I say these things but your missive makes assumptions which are not borne out by fact and as such are little more than the rantings of a bitterly twisted person who has it in for the sick and disabled.
In closing both ATOS and the DWP will be tightening their belts soon due to the cutbacks, look out because disabled folk like you who are a burden to the company will be amongst the first to go, and before you get your “Dont you dare talk to me like that I’m disabled.” head on, I too have fallen victim to being amongst the first to go because of my disability and the associated costs of “reasonably practicable adjustments”. The quicker you understand this the better, go on, just take a look across the office at your boss next time he’s talking quietly on the phone, is it you he’s looking at? are you going to be the next unemployment statistic? I also wish you well when you go up in front of the ATOSSER expecting fair treatment, cos it aint gonna happen kiddo.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 27, 2011 @ 4:35 pm
The otherside Eh! Disabled yourself Eh!Working Eh! This gives you the right to say to everyone else is a shyster who should get their life in order does it.
If you work for the DWP answer me these 3 questions and I will apologise for ALL my previous posts.
1)Have you never undergone an ESA WCA and received a Medical Report?
2)How many awards have been changed by the DM ie points awarded by Atos HCP
3)Who is the company who carry out the Independent Tier Complaints For Atos
Do not forget we over the years have paid your wages,Lord Haw Haw was also for the other side.
Finally Sir or madam you will go down the river like the rest of the shit when the time comes.
Have a nice life
Comment by esa veteran — January 27, 2011 @ 4:59 pm
Please can some advice me if and who I can talk to about my story.
Its started 2 and half years ago when I was on New Deal I had some concerns about the staff from a company called WORK DIRECTIONS (They have now changed their name to Ingeus,But after I made my complaint which they didnt like they forsed me off the programme and back to JCplus,they had prolised to try and resolve there action and NEVER once tried to call the JCPlusso that I would eb allowed back to finish the programme to which they had been fully paid for,The COE at the time was a manager concern as he seems to really Not want to help,he also banned me from going to their offices.
Anyway Due to all the stress I was forced to go on the sick.(Now I wasnt aware that this would mean my complaint been closed ?IS THAT LEGAL.?? Any its gets worse Within weeks of been on the sick I was told that I would have to go on PATHWAY TO WORK programme and I didnt mind after been told what it wasmHowveer to my shock I was told that Id have to go back to the same company WORK DIRECTIONS.
I told them of all my concerns and they said not to worry ,Surely I shouldnt of been sent back to the same company who had caused my illness in the first place due to stress…. i THEN TOLD THEM THAT I WAS BANNAD FROM ALL THEIR OFFICES ans that the ban would have to be removed in written from this CEO he refused but told the staff if I didnt come I would loss benefits.
This was in Oct/Nov 2008, I went and asked for HELP HELP HELP AND the said NO NO NO NO.
Im now still on the sick and I have been trying to reslove this matter,It finally come to a head last sep when I went to teh DWP in Lesson Grove and after telling them my concerns SHE the acting manager read out a pre written message and told me that this compplaint was now closed and that was it I asked her for acopy of this statment and she refused,I emailed that day within 30 minutes to request it and days later I got a letter saying that,that was her personnal notes and that it had been distroyed.
im now in limbo by all what has happened and i have even tried getting my MP to sort it (what use has been is NOTHING)
IS THERE ANY ADVICE some one can give me as I want to sue this pathway to work provider and the DWP
Comment by Mike Hunter — January 28, 2011 @ 12:32 am
Try speaking to a Welfare Rights Officer, your Local Authority should have the number or put you through to them. You are in an extremely difficult position which needs to be addressed quickly and professionally. Please keep us posted of your progress.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 28, 2011 @ 8:07 am
I have been having bother with all these lying bastards for years, the tribunal service even obtained some of my medical records without my consent, if everyone fights and claims change of circumstances all the time and appeall, ask for FOI requests for stuff you can think of but dont even need it all gets to them if enough do it, you have a duty to cost them as much as they rob you. be difficult and grind these bastards down.
do you know that the post office open your letters and look at all your medical information, they do. I am going to learn hyroglyphics and send them that to decifer it makes it difficult for them
Comment by Anonymous — April 30, 2011 @ 6:34 pm
The tribunal service is corrupt as well unfortunately, I have personal experience of this.
It’s always struck me as strange that only 40% of claimants win their appeals, one would think it would be much higher if the tribunal service were truly impartial, after all who could be bothered with an appeal with all it’s downsides if they didn’t have anything wrong with their health.
I suspect that the appeal process is so difficult an ordeal for most sick and disabled people that only the truly ill can be bothered appealing at all, due to the fact that they don’t have a choice, and therefore the winning percentage for claimants should be much, much higher.
The welfare rights and CAB are well aware that the tribunal service is corrupt, but say nothing.
Anyway I didn’t know that the post office is opening mail and looking at medical records if this is true then they are commiting a serious criminal offence, but after all the horrors I’ve been through in the last couple of years, nothing surprises me with these people anymore.
Help us fight these scumbags at http://www.dwpexamination.org
Comment by dwpexamination — April 30, 2011 @ 6:59 pm
Do a lot of FOI requests and you will get the truth that the post office open the letters as subcontractors for another company who are contracted by the DWP, they say it is legal under the data protection act but I am not sure that this covers medical privacy rights. I think this should be known to people in advance that post office staff can view sensitive medical, benefit and financial information.
I questioned how the contractors can subby it out to the post office and make profit yet the DWP can’t deal direct and negotiate the same or better deal, sounds like backhanders unless theres a better excuse. I am still waiting for a reply to this from the DWP, get your MPs to ask the same question from Darra Singh.
I am of the mind and probably going to insist that the Atos doctors are called to attend all my appeals and to be questioned to undermine or prove their medical opinion and expertise, at least it will stop them abusing others for the day and cost them money as they do to us.
To deny an appelant this right to question the doctor and their medical findings could give reasons to have a decision set aside as an unfair hearing if they fail to show and be questioned, you get two bites of the rotten apple this way, they wont like it….. will they.
In law people including Atos Doctors have a duty of care and with what indefensible rubbish and lies Atos come up with a civil county court action small claim might easily and affordably be won, it looks like I will be going down this route.
I urge everyone to fight for your rights and never give up, hold them all to their service targets and if they fail make a formal complaint, ask questions and push it all the way to Darra Singh (chief exec), you can get his email address, make them work for their money and have your appeals done in quantanamo bay as you will get a more fair hearing this way and theres less abuse of rights going on.
My views are based on my experience, I have nothing to lose so I can annoy them and call them for what they really are, please use your own judgement and circumstances to do whats right for you and take legal advice, they have changed me and made me very aggressive and angry, I used to take it personal but look around they are doing this to everyone as the evidence suggests.
Comment by Anonymous — May 2, 2011 @ 7:52 pm
I am a victim of the DWP and ATOS. watch the news and see what the mentally ill man who is being denied benefits does – im gay and will certainly be flaming. Someone has to make a a major public stand against these bastards.
Whats the saying? going out in flames???
Comment by Russell — June 25, 2011 @ 10:17 pm
Well don’t do anything daft Russell, just flame them by winning your appeal against these bastards, that’s the best revenge, click on here for great advice http://www.dwpexamination.org appeal and get justice.
Comment by dwpexamination — June 26, 2011 @ 6:35 am
Ive suffered under these Nazis,no food and no hope,who outthere in the legal profession can elp?ive decided that im going to leave this country when funds allow ,that decision is made and will be activated asap.we ordinary people are scum to the tory establishment and they dont give a fuck about us.So i say Lets all screw them Leagally and non-leagally.
The judge on Leeds tribunal is ex-prison warder made into judge,and the Doctor is or was a Police Doctor.N.J.Nathan.Shows whos really behined all this?
Comment by Mark Wouters — August 1, 2011 @ 5:05 pm
Hi Mark.
You are not the only one, I too have suffered under these bent tribunals, some of these Doctors on there actually work or have worked for ATOS and as for the Judges, it seems to me that the majority are Tory voters and on an Ideological mission.
We have no chance mate if the tribunal system is corrupt to the core, we are doing everything we can to fight these people though…here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org folk from all over Britain are exchanging ideas and giving their advice and experience on the hell that is ATOS/DWP and these bent so called impartial tribunals..
Comment by dwpexamination — August 1, 2011 @ 6:13 pm
Hi there folks, i have been reading through these comments as I am also experiencing the hell of a ATOS healthcare ‘so called medical report’ Firstly i have sympathy for everyone on here, the DWP are indeed puppets of a higher power, i installed computer systems for all sorts of government agencys throught out the 90′s and did see a lot of injustice going on, one problem, try to fight or raise your opinion, your gone, jobless, me? i wasnt scared, i have lost endless jobs/contracts for speaking up against any greedy, manipulating, heartless organisations big or small. Now i find myself at the recieving end after becoming ill with a delapitating illness that has made me house bound, after over 25 years of being a Field Service Information Technologist (basically i used to drive around a lot visiting different ‘sites’ fixing their damn computers) Makes me laugh, even with the technology we have with systems being intertwined with other systems these so called doctors cant even access the Patient Medical Records Database the NHS hold, they just sit there and give there own ‘prognosis’ without any background knowledge, AMATEURS, they are a disgrace to the medical world and thus should be ‘struck’ off. I bless all those nurses, doctors, ambulance technicians etc.. that are genuine, caring and damn good at their job! I have, in my career, met many as one of my roles was to upgrade all the hospitals in the south east with new computer technology, which was saving lives as urgent patients tests results were now flying across the country at the speed of light, BUT these ATOS quacks let the whole side down.
All i can say is, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. DWP and ATOS and anyone else involved in their fraudalent ways are definately under the spotlight now. Amongst other people i have emailed i found ATOS’s governing body, the General Medical Council, GMC for short. Please everybody, go to the GMC website, talk to them, email them, but most of all, get the GMC number of the atos quack who dealt with you, you can obtain this by telephoning ATOS direct and asking, they will have all of your records ie time of your appointment etc.. on their database, the telephone number is 0113 2309175, you have to give your national insurance number etc.. then they will release the information after making security checks on your name address etc… I just did it and am now in the process of
1) complaining to the GMC online using the ATOS ‘doctors’ GMC number, the gmc will ask for access to your medical records so that they can make a comparison between ATOS’s report and your GP’s medical evidence, ( ha ha good luck to ATOS, arguing against a GP when your nothing but a Healthcare Examiner is a brave thing to do!)
2). getting my medical report from the ATOS idiot that ‘examined’ me so my doctor can examine it. You can obtain the medical report from your local DWP benefit office as you are legaly entitled to it, they cant give any excuses not to give you it as its illegal not to. Also if ATOS refuse or dont give you the GMC number, telephone the Care Quality Commission (03000 616161) who monitor private health care organisations along with the General Medical Council. They will then! lol.
finally, NAME and SHAME these so called ‘doctors’ paste their malpractising ways across the internet for the net is the power! ~The Pen is mightier then the sword! or nowadays, the keyboard is.
Bless all and keep up the good fight, we didnt fight as a nation to defend our blessed country against all ill doers for nothing, did we? only for the ones we have defended to stab us in our back, have we learnt nothing? never forget, once, one of our queens stated that she was married to our country and we were her children who demands the protection and love from our sovereign mother which she was glad to give, same goes for our queen now, god bless her. Problem is, the ‘cromwells’ of this life that stops the information reaching her. Nuff said.
Comment by The Crusader — August 15, 2011 @ 1:11 pm
I had my medical assessment in Dec 10 and won my appeal in April 11 during the time of my appeal I missed 6 cold weather payments of £25 it has recently been brought to my attention that I never recieved these can anyone one help me with any information on if and how I may ne able to claim these back.?
Comment by jen — August 17, 2011 @ 7:47 am
Hi Jen, its well worth writing to the department dealing with cold weather payments, after all if the decision has been reversed and the status quo restored you would have had them anyway. Give it a go its worth a call or a letter don’t you think. Also please go to http://www.dwpexamination.org where you can register with our sister forum and meet other like minded people in a similar position to yourself. There is also a mine of excellent first hand intelligence and information on how to deal with ATOS.
Comment by dwpexamination — August 17, 2011 @ 5:35 pm
The Tribunal service with my case managed under Judge Moss have obtained some of my medical records without my authority and used them at my appeals against my clear written objections, the (north east) regional Judge Mr David J Wall for which complaints against Judges behaviour should be made lacks the legal ability or fairness of mind to investigate my complaints, I see it that he is protecting his corrupt pals, he tells me that the Tribunal service have authority under my original claim form, if this is the case then they are not impartial and fair as the law requires.
The fact of the matter is they never had my authority, the way they act undermines and damages the real honest Judges that do have moral values, eventually I will get one if I just keep plodding away.
I also have a letter from a DWP decision maker telling the Atos doctors what to find as evidence. british justice is non existent, it’s hardly surprising people burn the cities when the very fabric of society is erroded by the corrupt judicial system and some Judges
Everyone has a duty to make it difficult and expensive for them to con you out of your entitlements. the DWP and Judges receive bribes every month to deny youof your entitlements, they dont call them bribes they are called wages but it’s the same thing in my view.
Comment by Anonymous — August 21, 2011 @ 5:29 pm
Hi Anon.
The tribunals are packed to the brim with corrupt Judges and so called Doctors, the whole system stinks to high heaven.
We have a new forum, please click on below and help us fight them, this forum is under Icelandic law and is not under the jurisdiction of our Government.
http://www.dwpexamination.org
Comment by dwpexamination — August 21, 2011 @ 5:39 pm
I have been on benefits since 1979 due to continuous severe pain and poor mobility after an accident in which I suffered a fractured spine. Since then I have been deemed incapable of work for several reasons related to my condition.
During this time I have taken increasing amounts of analgesia which leaves me in a constant daze whilst not really dealing with the level of pain I experience. If I wish to go out I have to prepare myself by not eating the day before (as I have bowel problems) and take larger amounts of analgesics than I am prescribed. Even then I can only cope for approximately 2 hours.
I have in the past been so depressed about my condition that I have attempted suicide on two occasions.
I have recently been called in for an ATOS medical assessment and received a decision notice stating I have qualified for ESA and been placed in the Work Related Activity group. I am aware this group has the benefit stopped after 12 months and I am quite beside myself with worry. I know I will be unable to attend regular interviews or be fit for any type of work as my condition has lasted over 30 years and worsened over that period. How can I now be expected to re-enter the job market in my condition and at the age of 62. To make matters worse, my GP has also stopped me driving so I`m housebound as I cannot walk more than a few steps.
For those in the know, on a normal day I take 600mg Tramadol, 240mg Dihydracodiene, 4000mg Paracetamol as well as Baclofen, Ametryptoline and Ibuprofen. This I take with other medications for my diabetes and blood pressure. If I know I am going out I increase the amounts by as much as 50% to ensure a degree of mobility. Both the DWP and ATOS advisor know this.
This is what I would be expected to do in order to attend interviews or be allocated work. In other words, I would be expected to overdose on a regular basis even though the DWP and ATOS are aware of this and the effect it will have, and yet appear to be insisting that I endanger myself regularly.
I have written to the address on the notification asking for copies of the medical assessment and written reasons for decision, also asking for my case to be reviewed and / or appealed. After three requests for the reports, and my letter (sent by registered post), I have not even received a letter of acknowledgement.
I admit to feeling extremely anxious and depressed about this and really cannot face a prolonged and intensive period dealing with this further. I genuinely do not know where to turn and what to do especially after reading the letters on this site. HELP !!!!
EM.
Comment by EM — August 26, 2011 @ 11:28 am
Hi EM.
The purpose of this site I hope you appreciate is not to frighten anyone, but to inform people of the hell that is ATOS/DWP and what they have in store for us. To be foretold is to be forewarned, could you click on to the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org and copy and paste your story which is all to familiar into the horror stories page.
You will receive any advice you need swiftly
Comment by dwpexamination — August 26, 2011 @ 12:58 pm
I dont think they have any idea or dont care of the damage they are doing to people and society and I notice that more and more postings are turning up on many more sites.
I used to respect doctors and judges but lets not kid ourselves these are not proper judges they are just bad lawyers who could not crack it in the real world and became chairmen then judges by name and not by nature.One word some them ALL up…SHAMELESS…
Comment by Anonymous — August 29, 2011 @ 4:11 pm
Well as you’ve found anon the tribunals are corrupt as well, these judges know fine well the ATOS reports are fabricated but they come away with nonsense like we prefer the ATOS Doctors version over your GPs version, and they wonder why people are dissatisfied.
We are fighting them constantly on the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org it’s our aim to bring them down by hook or by crook.
Comment by dwpexamination — August 29, 2011 @ 4:44 pm
Anne. Hi I have been fighting this shower for over a year to get my Higher Rate DLA back, and each time they claim it’s because of the report of the Doctor they sent to my home to examine me. He never examined me, we spoke for a little bit he asked me a few questions, and then asked me to lift my arms above my head. I could not do it as I have Acute pain all over as a result of having Fibromyalgia and chronic back pain. I tried and he told me to stop as he did not want me to hurt myself or tire myself out as he could see I was in a great deal of pain. He asked me if I was on any medication I said yes and my son got the boxes. In this Doctors report back to the DWP, he claimed I refused to do things he asked me and that I was on no medication. I suffer from Depression, Raynuards, Arthritis (all joints) Fibromyalgia, Agraphobia, Asthma,Spinal problems and since losing my benefit my health have gotten worse. I am unable to walk without severe pain, I fall over due to the pain which has now triggered a problem I had when I was pregnant split pubic bone. I am Chronically Aneamic where I faint and my balance is off and I suffer panic attacks. The DWP told me the decision maker would reconsider my claim if I got my GP to send in a letter in support of my claim I did this, and the Decision Maker rang me up and told me they would not change their decision as their report from their own Doctor was the report they would stick to. I am house bound, I have fallen over resulting in bursting my left eardrum because this lot claim i CAN walk and do everything for myself. I am waiting once again to hear from the tribunal. I don’t hold out much hope. I think it’s terrible that their Doctors report superceeds our own GPs. My health is getting worse and they make me feel like I’m trying to rob them. They have made me feel so desperate and alone. THOUGHT DLA WAS MEANT TO HELP ME. Instead as I watch the News I see claimants playing golf,climing ladders and they got DLA. Genuine claimants are being made to pay for those idiot decision makers giving this to anyone and his friend. I’M TRAPPED IN AGONY.
Comment by Anonymous — September 1, 2011 @ 1:16 am
I have just recieved copies of my Atos reports and wish to challenge/complain ..do I contact the DWP,ATOS or BOTH ?
Comment by carol — October 18, 2011 @ 12:21 pm
Hi Carol.
You have just found out that your ESA OR IB 85 is packed with lies and doesn’t explain your health problems ?, then you must appeal to the first tier tribunal via the DWP.
First of all get what’s called a GL 24 form from the DWP, you can even collect one from your local Job centre, or phone and ask for one.
You use the GL 24 along with some blank paper to launch your appeal, you send this to the DWP not ATOS.
You can also complain to the DWP that your functional assessment at the hands of ATOS was unacceptable etc, you can also send a seperate complaint to ATOS as well.
Please click on the link and get the best information on every step to take in how to deal with these people (what to do regarding money etc) here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org
Comment by dwpexamination — October 18, 2011 @ 1:32 pm
I think what the bank campers are doing is a good idea, perhaps if people camped peacefully outside the DWP offices this might have some effect, if a list of the corrupt Atos doctors and Tribunal so called Judges names and addresses was posted on the internet they might take a different view of shafting the vunerable as they would be named and shamed.
I think it may be time for a new political party to emerge, theres probably enough disabled people who have the ability and time to do this in every town and city, nobody has any faith in any of the political corrupt politicians we have, this could be the way to drive these bastards out, sack them all who are corrupt.
The honest mps could lead the political way.
Comment by Anonymous — October 23, 2011 @ 5:50 pm
I personally don’t know any honest MPs. as far as I can see they are all self serving creeps..!!
As for the tribunal judges, I’ve found it’s very difficult to get information on them, at least the ones I looked at, if you know a way please let me know ?, because I have some old scores I would like to settle.
Comment by dwpexamination — October 23, 2011 @ 7:24 pm
I fell foul of the DWP & ATOS because their doctor lied & put what he wanted to put in the ‘medical report’ about me…I appealed & won in less than 5 minutes at the tribunal! I also complained bitterly to the GMC & actually called the ‘doctor’ a liar, a cheat, a fraudster etc.etc. They really seem to be taking notice of my complaint & I just got a response from the ‘doctor’ that was sent to me by the GMC, in the reply to my complaint he actually admits that he lied on the report!!!!..They are really investigating my case now & with a vengance!!!…I’ll keep you posted on this as it progresses….Steve.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2011 @ 9:50 am
He admits he lied on the report ?, obviously the evidence against him was completely overwhelming and he was forced to submit to the truth, of course if he thought he could get away with it he would have lied again.
These so called Health care professionals are lying on reports continually, they can’t do the job and meet their targets and fend of constant hassle from their bosses and still write truthful reports, and that is why they resort to writing out these bogus so called functional assessments.
Well, when they signed the contract they knew what was expected of them, they are responsible for their own behaviour, they thought because they have the support of the Government and the Daily mail, Express etc, that they could get away with it.
ATOS have been doing this to thousands and thousands of people for the last three years at least, and probably getting away with it on the sly for years before that, it’s about time it ended, it’s about time they recanted, and it’s about time they just conceded and gave us what we have been demanding for the last three years which is fair and impartial assessments and an end to DWP oppression.
Steve…you will probably just get an apology and offered a bribe, that’s what they do when they are found out, offer a paltry monetary sum of money to keep you quiet, something like £50.
Politely tell them to keep it, your soul is not for sale..!! Help is available here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org
Comment by dwpexamination — November 5, 2011 @ 10:36 am
Well I’ll certainly be a little less than polite if they offer me anything less than a few grand, this farce has cost me quite a bit of money to sort out so far. As a consequence of all this & my extremely loudmouthed & embarrasing way of dealing with it, I now have some mainstream media after permission to publish my story nationally, but I can’t give it yet because it’s not finished & investigations are still continuing regarding the ‘doctor’ who is by the way a multi millionaire! I intend to kick up so much crap about this that hopefully the DWP, ATOS & the quack in question will always remember the day they were stupid enough to cross me!..lol.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2011 @ 11:30 am
I’m logged in now….In addition to my comments 94 & 96. I was warned to be careful about what I accused the ‘doctor’ of because of being sued for libel, my attitude is that, I already have nothing much to be sued for! I can also prove beyond doubt that the ‘doctor’ lied, among all the other lies he stated in his report he stated that I had no arthritis in certain leg joints, what he didn’t know at that time was that I was in the process of having MRI scans that have since proved him entirely wrong! If he’d actually physically examined me as he very clearly stated he did in the report he would have known that I indeed do have advanced arthritis in those joints, I’m now due to have more surgery because of it at the end of November & also have a statement from the specialist who says my condition is quite obviously an ongoing deterioration & has been for quite a number of years!…Yet the ATOS quack signed a report that is obviously a legal document to the contrary & he’s now admitted that lie, all of which brings into question the validity of the rest of the fiction he wrote in it. I also have a rock solid ACE up my sleeve in the form of an as yet undisclosed covert digital video recording of the entire medical inquisition of that morning!..Well you have to fight fire with fire don’t you?….I fully intend to crucify this ‘doctor’ as an example to others who are like minded within their profession!.I do hope that some of them are reading this!…lol….Steve.
Comment by steve106de — November 5, 2011 @ 12:41 pm
This not being able to use the recording nonsense is just claptrap, if they were honest in the first place there would be no need for all this subterfuge.
The ATOS Doctors all know it’s all a sham, they should be ashamed of themselves, somebody said ”How can these bastards sleep at night ?” the answer was ”Well they just put their heads on the pillow and go SNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOZZZZZZZZ”..
LOL.
Comment by dwpexamination — November 5, 2011 @ 1:31 pm
Well there’s nothing to stop me posting that video/audio recording & also publishing all the names of those involved all over the internet, then e-mailing the links to all concerned & I will if pushed hard enough! I think they’re starting to realise that I do actually mean what I say & I’m not just full of empty threats, all the doctors treating me seem to be all on my side in this too. It’s easy for me to make recordings of anything because I used to design, manufacture & repair covert surveillance equipment professionally for quite a number of years, so I’m no stranger to that kind of stuff & on this occasion I’m going to show those arrogant assholes just how devastatingly destuctive & dangerous I can be to dishonest so called professionals who cross me!…tee hee hee.
Comment by steve106de — November 5, 2011 @ 2:02 pm
Here’s a copy of my latest letter to the DWP about DLA, I won the Incapacity benefit appeal but these assholes who deal with DLA are still being a bit awkward, but no problem, it just means my compensation claim against the ‘doctor’ himself will be bigger!..lol.
Dear Sir/ Madam
I have now received a letter from the General Medical Council that contains the statement of response from Dr. So & so to my very damming complaint that was sent to them regarding this matter and I thought I would send you an update for your files. I have now also taken professional legal advice regarding this matter! A copy of the reply from Dr. So & so is enclosed for you to keep on file if you wish to.
In his statement of reply sent to the GMC and in turn sent to me by the GMC Dr. So & so actually states very clearly that his ‘Examination’ of myself was a “Completely Passive Examination” and a “No Touch” examination and that statement is once again directly contrary to his medical report about myself, where he clearly states on page 13 of that fictitious report that there was a “Physical Examination” and actually states under ‘overview’ at the top of that page that: “The details of the physical examination were explained to the customer, who gave consent for the process to proceed” and then goes on to report those completely bogus results!
Your ‘contractor doctor’ Dr. So & so also does not in any way whatsoever try to dispel, argue or refute any of the extremely damming and potentially devastating accusations and assertions I purposely made very clear about him and his conduct in my complaint to the licensing body of his profession! He does however try to hide behind DWP “Guidelines” given to him of how to conduct these ‘Examinations’ and seems to give the impression that he believes that because he is an “Independent Contractor” and “Not an employee” that he can write anything he wishes to on the DWP reports and if I or others disagree with a decision about benefit cancellations that we can simply appeal!!!! Is this really ‘Guideline Instruction’!? I think the GMC and others will be investigating this attitude to its core!
I think it only fair to warn everyone at this point that I will now be wishing to proceed to start litigation against this ‘doctor’ Dr. So & so who by his own admission in his signed reply to my complaint to his governing body now effectively openly admits that he lied in compiling a totally bogus medical report about myself and therefore as I have stated before, your decision to withdraw my DLA benefits was based on a now proven to be false & fraudulent medical report compiled by a completely dishonest doctor! Do I need a stronger reason to appeal against your now obviously flawed decision?
Yours Sincerely …………………………..
Comment by steve106de — November 5, 2011 @ 3:23 pm
They are arrogant people Steve, he probably thinks he’s bulletproof..!! LOL.
Comment by dwpexamination — November 5, 2011 @ 7:32 pm
Not for too much longer, I’m a trained engineer & former professional witness who was ripping people like him apart in court 20 years ago! Back then I was able to generate income that at least was equal to his own & I’m just showing him how logical argument actually is in progress when doing it fully lawfully & transparently, I also have 36 years worth of rock solid medical evidence & further professional back up if I need it & that certainly helps!… P.S. I do like a bit of a challenge too!…….Always have & that’s just me I guess!..lol.
Comment by steve106de — November 5, 2011 @ 8:37 pm
I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes, he better get himself in to an iron suit……LOL.
Comment by dwpexamination — November 5, 2011 @ 10:04 pm
I have to go in two weeks to a examination, I have daily severe nausea and stomach pains, I’m scared too, I was at college for 3 years and had to drop out because of how ill I was getting, I’m only fairly young, and being this ill has ruined my life and left me pretty much housebound, not to mention now I’m scared I’m going to lose my money to live, they’re really cruel to do this…
Comment by Anonymous — November 8, 2011 @ 4:31 pm
Hello Anon.
If the worst comes to the worst and you are found fit for work, you can appeal and get the assessment rate while waiting for the appeal to be heard.
The assessment rate monetary wise is the same deal as job seekers allowance, you can also get help to fill in forms and help on what to do next etc here http://dwpexaminations.blacktrianglecampaign.org/phpBB3/
Comment by dwpexamination — November 8, 2011 @ 5:06 pm
thank you for the advice dwpexamination, its great what you’re doing here, alot of respect to you… I had no idea about the ‘assessment rate’, so if I do fail my medical examination and appeal, how do I go about getting this ‘assessment rate”? I’m not sure where it is in the blacktriangle website
thank you very much…
Comment by Anonymous — November 9, 2011 @ 8:34 pm
You had no idea about the assessment rate because they don’t tell you, they try to force people on to job seekers by not mentioning it.
Anyway, when you see your GL 24 form (that’s the form you apply for to write out your appeal) you will notice that there isn’t much room to write an appeal, this is a cynical ploy by the Government to try and force you to narrow the information you give them, of course you are not going to fall for that, so write on the GL 24 that I wish to appeal against your decision that my fitness for work is not limited, I believe I have supplied enough information on my ESA 50, my recent examination at ATOS, and my own GPs report which taken together clearly shows that my capacity for work is limited, etc etc etc, and then you mention at the bottom that ”while waiting for my appeal to be heard, I wish to be paid at the assessment rate etc.”
.And on a separate piece of A4 paper you number all the descriptors that are relevant to you and explain one by one why you believe you should have received points on each of those descriptors.
The descriptors are everything, not how unwell you are, it’s the descriptors that matter, by the way, just so that you know which descriptors you are contending make sure you get tha ESA 85 report from the DWP as well.
You may have your own way of expressing yourself, and by all means that’s the way to go, there is no particular way of writing an appeal that’s set in stone, everyone is different and the DWP see thousands of different appeals every day.
Some appeals look as if they were written by Benjamin Franklin, and some look as if they were written by an eight year old child, so don’t worry about it LOL.
Comment by dwpexamination — November 9, 2011 @ 9:31 pm
I have provided soo much evidence to prove i am not fit to work. I have had xray examinations, rhumatology and doctor reports who state I am not fit to work and asked the dwp to approve my appeal.. They did not and I am awaiting a tribunal hearing soon.. I dont know if I should attend or not because i am young looking and do not look like i suffer the amount of pain i do with ankylosing spondylitis unless i am doing things which I wont be at the tribunal meeting where I will be sitting down throughout.. what should I do.?
Don’t forget to always ask for the name of every person you have dealt with and make notes of tim and dates and of who you have spoke to.
Comment by Anonymous — January 4, 2012 @ 1:31 pm
My friend you must go to the tribunal, I am in the same boat as you, I have degenerative disc disease and other things going on it took me 2 nealy 3 years to get my tribunal heard but I did it and won my case. About 2 months after my tribunal I received a letter from the DWP saying they want to know if I am fit enough for work and sent me for another medical board with Atos. The DWP will never leave you alone unless you die of course????
Comment by Anonymous — January 4, 2012 @ 8:49 pm
Thanks for that. i will go but I am going to make a complaint and claim compensation from the DWP for their continuous neglect. please everyone complain..
I will also find out about each of the persons name and make sure I get revenge one way or another.. i pray to whoever is out there that all the dwp people who make sick people sicker will die a slow and very painful death much sooner than you or I. i really want to beat and burn them and show them what pain and suffering is really like.
Comment by kmkog@hotmail.com — January 5, 2012 @ 3:53 pm
you know I feel your pain, I was in the same mood as you are when I was going through hell because of DWP and Atos, but then I thought I am not going to waste my life getting so upset about these people, the hate I had after I received the DWP letters was bad, really bad. The truth is these people dont have a bad feeling about you, they are doing what they have been trainned to do, and that is get people into work, they dont care about what pain or medical problems you have, you are just another piece of meat in the grinder just a number not a human being going through pain, stress, and medical problems. Try to find people who will support you like family or friends and please dont get angry at the DWP Or Atos because this will really make your life shitty afterwards, I got angry at DWP on the phone once swearing and ever thing,after that I could’nt get any info, or reports, I was targeted as a volitile customer the final result was my life got harder, be polite and then scream and swear when you put the phone down. Take care ok.
Comment by Panthar10 — January 5, 2012 @ 4:26 pm
Also you will not get any where trying to take legal action against the DWP or Atos, I tried all that and thought that the treatment I received from DWP was definatly against the Disability act, but the real life fact is they are like god’s untouchable, no solicitor will help you, but if you want to try and do get a positive result they people let me know and I shall do the same.
Comment by Panthar10 — January 5, 2012 @ 4:30 pm
Thanks for that Panthar10. I shall try my hardest to not feel bitter and angry etc,,,
i have no family and friends and have become a recluse but I will wait for my tribunal hearing and let you know how it goes…
Comment by kmkog@hotmail.com — January 6, 2012 @ 12:20 pm
It is good to hear you are not going down the nasty bitter path, that can chew you up in side and it will only affect you. Do you have a reprecentative to help you with your tribunal?
Take care ok.
Comment by Panthar10 — January 7, 2012 @ 12:47 am
no, i have no-one. People tell me to get a care worker, or the CAB to help etc but I am a very private person and am sick to the teth having to explain all my problems again. …
will posy my tribunal result here..
the lone ranger.
Comment by Anonymous — January 7, 2012 @ 2:11 pm
I know how it is you have explain over, and over, and over again what is wrong with you, I received my 10 form to fill out for the DWP only last week, every time you must go back to the start explaining all the in’s and out’s if really P***’es me off, but if I am to live and pay the bills the forms have to be filled out. You take care and let us know how it goes ok. ^ The Panthar^
Comment by Panthar10 — January 8, 2012 @ 12:09 am
I have just received my reports from the medical examination from the person who saw me who was Shauna McKeon at Irene House Balham. i want to make a complaint because she lied in her reports and said I put my coat and jeans on without any problems but for me it was very painful!! Who do i write to with my formal complaint and my reviews about the unprofessionalism of this supposedly doctor! Trust me, NOONE wants to mess around with me because I will get justics and people WILL be punished for there blatant wrong-doings.
Shauna McKeon
Bourne Hall Health Centre,
Chessington Road,
Ewell,
Surrey,
KT17 1TG !
Comment by kmkog — January 15, 2012 @ 12:48 pm
Hello kmkog.
If you feel she had lied in her report to the DWP (Which is probably 99% of us by the way) then make a complaint to ATOS and your local DWP office as well as your local member of parliament.
You will almost certainly get the usual dross reply from ATOS/DWP along the lines of ”We are sorry your functional assessment was a negative experience for you, we at ATOS pride ourselves on delivering a first class service to our customers, if you are not happy with our reply you can contact bla bla bla” and so on and so on.
You will soon find out like the rest of us that these people are totally deranged and actually believe the drivel they write, don’t let that put you off though because on the letter is that contact address for the next bozo you have to go through if you want to keep the complaint going.
It’s a long road but some of our forum members http://www.dwpexamination.org are experts at dealing with them and have beaten them as well, that’s right they can be beaten and have been beaten, but ATOS don’t want anyone to know so they cover it up, some of the complainers have actually been offered money to keep it in the dark and not take it further, but as I said it’s a long road to get there. If you need help then log in to the above forum and ask any questions you like.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 15, 2012 @ 3:38 pm
Thanyou for your message. It has given me confidense to make a complaint and persue it even though it causes me unnessasary stress related pain and I will make sure I get justice because I have to remember that others could be also complaing about shawna mckeon and my complaint will add to it and hopefully she will be struck off or if she was in another country, she should be given a 1000 lashes with a whip and to personaly apolgize to me for her blatant lies! Thats my reviews about this ‘doctor’.
will keep u posted..
Comment by kmkog — January 16, 2012 @ 12:36 pm
I have just recieved an ATOS form in which i have pointed out my fibromyalgia,ibs etc with a link to the NHS website about fibromyalgia but i am wondering if i will have to have an assesment. I have told them that due to pain i can not make any plans to go out as i do not know from 1 day to the next if i will even be able to get out of bed so they will have to come to me and that as my memory is bad i will have to record the assesment for my own piece of mind as i had an assesment where i told the moron sorry atos health proffesional that as it was not safe for me to even try to cook food (if i was mobile enough to do it) therefore i survived on items such as sausage rolls and scotch eggs but on his report it said i ate ready meals. This was after he had lost my first report and came out to see me again to do a new one so i know about how they twist (lie?) your answers. At that time his second report stopped my DLA and i appealed with no new evidence and had it reinstated thankfully.
Comment by Adam — January 17, 2012 @ 6:44 pm
Hello Adam.
They will almost certainly demand you attend another assessment and you must insist on a domiciliary visit. It’s the same old rigmarole, they will refuse and you will insist etc.
Then after the assessment and you get the report you will see the lies again and it will be time for the GL24 form, if you need help Adam log in here to the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org and they will help you best they can.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 17, 2012 @ 8:27 pm
The idea of telling them that i shall be recording the medical is to show the lies that they will make (been through a few of their tests) and ofcourse if they do make false comments they are open to legal action lol.
Comment by Adam — January 18, 2012 @ 12:37 pm
Adam I think you will find that if you tell them you are recording, then the assessment will be abandoned and they will put the blame on you if the DWP stop your benefits, better to record it surreptitiously.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 18, 2012 @ 3:15 pm
hi i have been through the mill for the last 12mths first i challenged my dla to be raised from low to middle so i could get some help.i had to wait 9 mths for appeal 10 yrs back date of medical notes a home visit from atos whom i must say did do me a good report or should i say truthful.report.i had my dla changed to middle rate.i won my case now i have just had a medical with atos again for my ib benefit.1st i knew was on reciept of my p45 no medical no notes ect.so i telephoned ib at the dwp to be told i was found fit for work.so i should claim jsa.i stated im not prepared to commit fraud by signing saying im fit for work when im not..so i was advised i could appeal i asked for my med report was told it was issued must of been lost oh well lost eh well who as got it and who now knows of my medical problem..oh well they aint bothered why should i be..i was last paid 3 weeks ago and i have been told while im appealing i have to have the low rate esa.i have to submit a sick note no probs done that 2mth sick note still no pay..i have since rec my copy of my medical reports and if i could see that nurse i would punch her lights out for the lies she as told…ect i have no problem hearing ..ie i wear to hearing aids reg deaf and i lipped red all her questions.i even asked her to face me not the computer as i was lip reading.scored 0 i have depression and have suffered 10 yrs or more but worked through it as i worked with a good group of lasses ..i dont sleep im scared to sleep my medication makes me drowsy but i fight it…scored 0 …i can not use a kettle as i have to wear straps as my hands are swollen and ache got arthritis.scored 0 ..got blood disorder cause me to sweat and go all red.scored 0.had a stroke and left me with tingles and a numb finger scored 0.got asthma breathing problems.scored 0 ..was well dressed on arrival of medical apologetic as i had my pajama top on lol…i looked well presented..i hadn’t had a wash i explained that as my friend didn’t come to help me shower till 10 and my medical was at 9 ..she stated i carried to bags with no trouble ..ie what bags….i took my jacket of and put it back on again ok…i never took it of….i asked the examiner to open the door for me to leave as i couldn’t turn the handle.. asked if i had a mobile phone i said yes but i dont use it as i have a son who is self harmer i feel safe with it ….she stated uses the phone ok to send and rec calls…im disgusted with the lies she as told no wonder my benefits have been stopped that stupid pathetic cow as caused me to want to commit suicide but then again one less to pay
Comment by im not a scrounger — January 20, 2012 @ 8:38 am
Hello I’m not a scrounger.
You are where I was 3 years ago, nothing seems to have changed at all, it’s the same old nonsense, losing sick lines, losing appeal submissions et al, the DWP must be the most incompetent Government department of all time.
NOW I just go with the flow, I refuse to give myself an ulcer or any type of mental problems because of these fools.
So now I just appeal like yourself, of course they are saying the ESA 85 is lost goodness me, there’s nothing for it but to write them a letter asking for another copy so that you can get on with the appeal.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 20, 2012 @ 11:51 am
If they refuse to give me a medical because of me saying i want to record it then they had better have a good reason or they will be breaking their contract with the DWP.
Comment by Adam — January 23, 2012 @ 5:28 pm
Hello Adam.
Yes they will have a good reason, your benefits will stop..!! If you catch my drift, but if you wish to record it then why not do it covertly ? after all who is to say whether you covertly or overtly recorded it ? will there be any witnesses ?.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 23, 2012 @ 8:46 pm
I have been in touch with the DWP and it seems an email was sent out to all their staff saying that people WERE allowed to record the assesment and that ATOS can not have your benefits stopped as the rules are,if the form does not give enough information for the person to stay on the benefit then ATOS MUST give them an assesment before any decision can be made. The person told me that ATOS has no right to refuse to give an assesment if ATOS deems that the form does not give enough information for the benefit to continue. I said to the person that if ATOS does refuse then they are in breach of contract to the DWP lol. Anyone else heard that the GMC have started investigating some of the ATOS doctors (12 at the last count).
Comment by Anonymous — January 27, 2012 @ 8:03 pm
If anyone is interested check youtube for a BBC Scotland programme called ‘Who’s cheating who’ has some very interesting statistics.
Comment by Anonymous — January 27, 2012 @ 8:05 pm
I am 32 and have had in total, 50 different doctors including Shawna mckeon who was mentioned, AND is not the most kindest and others who are kind but VERY unprofessional like doctor Annetta Monaco from the same practice.
I guess you get good and bad in all walks of life.
Tony
Comment by Tony — January 27, 2012 @ 8:37 pm
Hello Anonymous.
ATOS cannot have your benefits stopped but their very action of assessing you as fit for work stops your benefits because the decision maker blindly rubber stamps everything the ATOS bozo says even though (Well so Professor Harrington claims) they have been told not too. So the DWP person you spoke to is right but wrong and is just another indoctrinated drone who hasn’t a clue.
Yes there has been talk of ATOS HCPs been brought before the GMC for malpractice, I believe it is on the GMC website.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 27, 2012 @ 8:49 pm
Yes it’s a very interesting programme and is nearly two years old, about time a new more up to date version was filmed and released.
There’s also this interesting news programme regarding the revolving door appeal system http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsR0Oqb2E2g&feature=related
Chris Grayling gets taken apart.
Comment by dwpexamination — January 27, 2012 @ 9:14 pm
hi
my sister had her medical yesterday, the atos professional seemed very nice, i was quite shocked as from all the comments made on the forum. but was that what their game plan is.??
He mainly spoke to me regarding her health problems,as my sister has communication problems too. He made her do some hand movements and made her do an eyetest, which she failed, he also asked if she can stand and walk, i actually forced my sister to show how she does manage on a daily struggle to get out of bed. she did with great difficulty.
although i would like to mention that after the assessment, the Dr did say ‘hopefully you will get an increase in benefits, but the decision isnt up to me.’
how long do you think i will hear back from the DWP?
any advise will be great.
thanks
Comment by Anonymous — February 15, 2012 @ 3:25 pm
Hi Anonymous.
All ATOS HCPs are nice and yes that’s part of their game plan, sometimes some people get some luck and let’s hope your sister is one of those lucky ones. There’s no normal time to hear from the DWP because it all depends on how busy they are but you are looking at around a couple of weeks, and really could be any time, I never heard from them for 7 weeks once then the envelope arrived informing me that I was fit for work.
Things are getting a little better because they need to get the appeal figures down and has lead to them puting people on to the work related activity group, so as I said wait and see and good luck..!!
If you don’t agree with what you see then you can do something about it, she doesn’t need to sign on for instance, if it’s bad news then let us know and we will help.
Comment by dwpexamination — February 15, 2012 @ 4:18 pm
Dear sir Madam
I am making a complaint regarding medicals and the medical reports conducted by and Dr Dipak Mallick2010- Nurse Jackie Simson2011. I believe they did comply with their duty of care obligation their professionalism code of practice. Regarding the medical in 2010 I inquired by phone to social security as I wanted to appeal medical. They informed me that the appeal process was for people “who had not passed their medical”.
I have always felt aggrieve regarding what I went through at the medicals I have since been informed that I could ask for my medical report’s which I have done so. The inaccurate content has distressed somewhat. Im upset with the inaccurate statements the lack information about my disability’s moreover what was not taken into account, Perhaps and a good reason why I am asked to come back every six months for a medical, though my complaint is likely to change. AndI have not worked for 20 years as a direct result of my medical condition IBS. I have been attending Atos for the same with the same condition. That should have been a good indicator.
The the false statements by Dr Mallick what he claims client said in his report example pg.4 which is impossible and does not follow through my medical questioner or what I say in my dyslexia screening report. Further criticisms regarding both continue on separates sheets.
My Medial conditions…….
Autoimmune disease and continued in medical questioner.
I have a skin autoimmune disease that attacks frequency the flare distorts my appearance its painful had it for years and I don’t always respond to the treatment I feel I have become resistant. I have attended it hospital when I cannot control it which limits me.
About my IBS, and continued in medical questioner.
I have IBS Irritable bowel syndrome, a functional disorder. I agonize mentally and physical I’m impaired am always in chronic pain I associated problem with depression and anxiety as I have an inability to handle stress As a suffer of Irritable bowel syndrome physical I cannot control the function of my bowls the whole watery substance goes down my clothes, it’s embarrassing and upsetting, the substance squirts out while standing getting up from sitting. I repeatedly visit the toilet in the optimism of any release, and release of pain. I have difficulty every day managing the pain breathing through spasms that take my breath away; I get panicky and anxious, lose focus on my day. I fear going any ware in case I lose my bowls. The problem is acerbated dyslexia I’m agitated everyday recurring chronic pain I’m regularly discomfort fatigued and tense I find myself having to sleep in the day as im inspired by the medication.. It’s difficult to concentrate on any one thing. Every day I hate waking up I’m curled up in a ball., I can’t eat from the extreme discomfort, the fullness and extreme trapped gas, I’m often sick, I wake up tied from lake of sleep, having to get up with the pain in the night. I have to regularly have to move position, with a continual urge to defecate, an urgency to get to a toilet.
The assessors did not consider I had a long standing syndrome. “Long term” should be clear that the disability has lasted at least 12 months or is likely to last at least 12 months or the rest of the person’s life, as in my case 20 years. Tha it has “substantial adverse effect” are more than more than minor on my ability to carry out normal day to day. Joinely as a direct result have a stress related illnesses. None of my conditions were acknowledging. Not taken in to account.
About my Dyslexia
About my Dyslexia and all is continued in my medical questioner. I have severe dyslexia, an intellectual disability which is substantial the definition. Mental Impairment, specific Learning Disability/Difficulties: Chronic Fatigue. I have substantial limitations as a consequence unforeseen physical changes in the brain, affecting my attention memory function motor ….. I have a hard time keeping my mind on any one thing. I can’t control attention and I have a tendency to ruminate. My disability has huge adverse effects sec, minute by hour of my daily life, and that will not change in the future, continued in my medical questioner.
The assessors did not understand I had a hidden disability often poorly understood. I could not make myself-understood which was a good reason why I filled out the medical questioner. I brought a diary this being my aid to remember this was declined. The diary was declined as I did not write it up by my on hand.
When I complained to Atos regarding Dr Mallicks they said Dr did not remember the diary. It seemed to me it was too easy for them to say he did not remember. The diary was a few pages of A4 paper stabled to the dyslexia screening that I gave the Dr while in the room and he read the first page. I complained about his conduct but told it was my word against his.
Noteworthy in their letter they mention they received the information, and that Dr Mallick conducted a function test on my Dyslexia. But wrote in his report no proof I had dyslexia. Test how was the function test conducted is it an approved function test for dyslexia?
I also would like to inquire regarding Dr Mallick and Nurse Jackie qualifications. Have both assessors attended regular courses on Developmental Dyslexia, and when what year and date what country did they take the qualification, and does the qualification apply here in uk.? Is the qualifications suitable for neurological brain disorders such as dyslexia. I ask this because Nurse Jackie and Dr Mallick did not recognise I had a disability. Dr Mallick mentions this in his report, quote, no evidence of client having dyslexia there was no evidence to say otherwise.Surly that’s what Dr malliks qualfide and to ask or see how im affected. Dr Mallick was handed the dyslexia screening report and a copy was attached to the questioners the diary was a few pages long and attached to dyslexia report along with the doctors notes. Atos mention in their letter they received the information. I also brought along that day a lecturer a friend from the university of Bedfordshire who support me with application and who had brought along copies that day.
I should not have to prove I have a disability as it’s already knowledge Severe dyslexia has “substantial and long-term adverse effect” it is necessary for a person to have had an assessment carried out by an “appropriate person, this did not happen. They did not understand the information before and equally both spent the interview pulling the information apart disproving instead of giving me the benefit of the dough. They hindered me instead of helping me. They shouldn’t expect me to remember dates times of my head as this part of dyslexia difficulties .Both assessments were without the case file resulting in judgments made without full discovery and disclosure.
2011 and 2012 medicals i passed on unrelated, and on “misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication to the existent of causing me distress on a daily basis”. This diagnoses conveniently worked for DR Mallick, as it must look though I misunderstood him.
If im not mistaken “misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication to the existent of causing me distress on a daily basis” is a support group descriptor.
I should have been considered under the descriptor and this never happened why? As a result I was hounded by phone and constant threatening letters that I was going to lose benefits because I was unable to attend the work focus group. Unwell and not managing I had to go through am appeal process and letters telling me money was being deducted and I was already in depth. I found the whole process with my disability distressing, it affected my wellbeing I I was suicidal.
Mirrored again in 22/11/11 I was asked to attend a work focus group but unwell had to go through the whole unbearable process again with special needs difficulties. I found finding help not always ready available, even understood, for others support me. Unable to manage I was referred by the doctor to the crises team at Luton and Dunstable Hospital.
I would like to bring to your attention 2 years now I have been ask to attend a medical every 6months though I have 2 longstanding disabilities and is unlikely change in the foreseeable future. . I do feel I have acceptingly circumstances I have a mental a neurological disablement which is risking my mental health I suffer with depression.
My conditions have been long standing substantial, and have long term adverse effects together on my ability to carry out normal day to day activties1(1)An effect is defined as long-term” for the purpose if it has lasted or is likely to last at least 12” where it has not already done so or the rest of my life1.para2(1) and should the impairment cease to have a long term averse effect ,it is nerveless !to be treated as continuing to have that effect if that effect is likely to recur and you are obliged to consider it. B8 of Guidance issued bt secretary of state, namely” in assessing the like hood of an effect lasting for any period, account should be taken of the total period for which the effects exist.
Dyslexia is a stress related illness I have no control over the disability as it’s a brain disorder that causes various difficulties these being a snap shot anxiety, mood swings, and confusion as a result of to seriously memory problems
In the Uk Dyslexia is a registered disability under chronically sick and disabled persons Act 1970 and the disability act of 1995. Those relevant to Developmental Dyslexia is recognized as a physical and mental impairment under the disability Discrimination act of1995.1,Para2 (1) &1(1). What is relevant to dyslexia include!
• Manual Dexterity and physical co-ordination
• Speech, hearing, sight including face-to-face, telephone and written communication
• (Cognition)Memory the ability to concentrate, learning function and understanding ability to carry out normal day to day activities. The disability discrimination Act 1995 provides that a person has a disability…if he has a physical or mental impairments which is substantial (severe) and long term adverse effects for rest of life
Should the impairment cease to have long term adverse effect, it is nerveless to be treated as continuing to have that effect if the effect is likely to recur. Dyslexia falls under “specific learning disability.” The IDEA defines SLD as, “a disorder in one or more of the basic psychological processes involved in understanding or in using language, spoken or written, which disorder may manifest itself in the imperfect ability to listen, think, speak, read, write, spell or do mathematically calculations I feel should of received further points in these areas:
Dyslexia is specifically covered under the broad category of a disability which affects “memory, or ability to concentrate, learn or understand”. “A person has disability severe dyslexia they have a physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on their ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities”. Under the law Dyslexia “substantial adverse effect” more than minor and must be a limitation going beyond the commonly found differences in ability amongst the general public. An impairment is treated as affecting a person’s ability to carry out normal day to day •Manual dexterity;•Physical co-ordination;•Continence;•Speech, hearing or eyesight;•Memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand.
The definition of ‘disability’ under the Equality Act 2010 is a person who: i) has a physical or mental impairment; ii) the impairment has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on their ability to perform normal day-to-day activities. For the purposes of the Act, these words have the following meanings: i) “substantial2 means more than minor or trivial; ii) ‘long-term’ means that the effect of the impairment has lasted or is likely to last for at least twelve months (there are special rules covering recurring or fluctuating conditions); iii) ‘normal day-to-day activities’ include everyday things like eating, washing, walking and going shopping. A person, who has had a disability in the past that meets this definition, is also protected by the Equality Act 2010.Depression: Mental Impairment .Dyslexia: Mental Impairment, Learning Disability/Difficulties: Mental Impairment Chronic Fatigue Syndrome:
What I feel I should have been awarded points in these areas and should of been noted in the report.
•Mobility;
•Manual dexterity;
•Physical co-ordination;
•Continence;
•Speech, hearing or eyesight;
•Memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand; Mental function learning and comprehension in completion of tasks.
Developmental dyspraxia is a disorder which impairs ability to plan and carry out sensory and motor tasks. include poor balance and coordination, clumsiness, vision problems, perception difficulties, emotional and behavioural problems, difficulty with reading, writing and speaking, poor social skills, poor posture, and poor short-term memo I have a number of impairments that overlap and find it hard to function I will always need aiding and support every day throughout my life. Refer to dyslexia screening Dyslexia is a language and communication difficulty verbal nonverbal .so that makes it difficult for me and having to deal with other people to communicate. I misinterpret what people say or trying to communication distinguish the sounds being spoken I hear sounds jumbled like being in a washing machine. Find it hard to execute tasks I am unable to successfully complete tasks due to significant severe mental disablement. Memory concentration and focus is seriously poor on a daily basis to such an extent my day to day life I’m unable to effectively managed without receiving the encouragement. When disrupted in thought it makes it the situation worse as I can’t regain my thoughts or place. That gets me mad .I find it hard to make my self-understood through speaking I can stutter and stubble stop start as I can’t remember the whole sentence , writing, typing /key board the sequencing, reading and conveying even the simple message to others as a severe dyslexic it difficult for me . Visually moving text I cannot see clearly enough to read a reasonable amount of text at a time, what makes it worse as it a hidden disability and others don’t understand. The changes in the brain are confusing and frightening that I can’t remember where I put things what direction I should go even when reading a sentence. I have changes in mood.Daily living is hard to manage with difficulties in processing information trying to work out understand remember the sequence of events, mentally hard to function and chronically fatigued I have to work seven times a harder than a normal person I’m frequently fatigued. I’m been told my mood and behaviour changes. MY medication Impairs my mental judgment I feel moody tied that I sleep in the day but I need it for the pain. Together with a serious poor memory nothing gets started or finished I can’t prioritize I have no awareness that i switch tasks, so I cannot successfully sustain them. Even sustain a conversation I forget what I’m saying I lose track. Initiating it’s difficult to get thoughts out and in order of how I want to say them .I Misunderstand what people say I get agitated, and lose it. Daily living, counting money and change, dealing telephone I get stressed anxious, shopping all the sounds problems reading the labels … Cannot cope with every day change makes my life more difficult to manage that I can’t cope with it all. My Dexterity difficulties are related to my disability; refer to dyslexia screening, balance and posture. On request I can forward further medical notes I brought with me to both medical.
I have since been asked to attend another medical 2012 since my last one 6 months ago. I cannot cope going through the process again. I have sent a copy of this letter to my MP.
Yours sincerely
Katherine Gleeson
My Criticism regarding Nurse Jackie medical 2011
There is no mention regarding difficulties regarding“misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication in the nurse report though mentioned Dr Mallicks report 2010. “Misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication
Noteworthy, I find it hard to believe something as significant as misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication can suddenly disappear. There is no mention of the though she had all the relevant information Dyslexia screening and also thanked me for posting. None of the information in the questioner was considered. You cannot have the disability one minute and not the next, disabilities do not go away. The medical reports are alarming with regards to the inaccuracies, incorrect statements, and failings to document all evidence. There is failing in in the report to acknowledge I was special needs how the disability affects me on a on a daily bases, additionally a failing to acknowledge the content of my medical questioner, and it did not reflect what I said, rather what they thought
I’ve been of work for 20 years with IBS. In my questioner mentions I suffer intense and frequent abdominal pain. I get, cramp-like abdominal pain, and Movement. Increased gas and bloating my symptoms recur without warning. Significant enough it effects how I function and I have no voluntary control of bowls. The Stress is acerbated by both the dyslexia and IBS;
Nurse ask me if I had brought any evidence with me I gave her post and present letter from doctor and the consultant. I explained to the nurse I had been referred by GP loss of control of bowls the pain frequent and my medication was no longer working. That I had a a mental impairment which is the result of my clinically recognised illness depression anxiety which an associated problem is being a sufferer of IBS and Dyslexia. .That I was seeing a consultant at Pinehill hospital for investigation and continuing for the foreseeable future. That I had recent surgery the consultant concluded IBS, that it was explained I would have to continue wearing incontinence pads as there is no more they can do. The nurse ask how long since I last worked? I told the 20years that I had been attending a ATOS medicals for the same period.
Nurse Jackie asked was anything found as a result of your surgery giving her a letter from the consultant stating “no abnormalities found”. Yet in the nurses’ report she states “abnormality found”, this is incorrect. Refere to evidence. I have been attending ATOS medical for IBS loss of control of bowl over 20 years. Having had the syndrome for more than 12 months I do believe this should have been considered a disabilitI am unhappy with the report I am writing in response to the medical report completed by Nurse Jakie Simon, Sept
The Nurse has failed to record all the facts a continuing IBS syndrome and the loss full bowl.ibs has been a long term primary syndrome, I had been attending medicals for 20 years,
Nurse noted I was attending pinehill hospital but did not note i was attending the hospital treatment.
Nurse stated there were finding by the hospital, this incorrect nothing was found it was concluded as Ibs. The nurse did not take into account what was noted in my limited capability for work questionnaire. Overall the report did not reflect what I was going through on a daily bases with regards various difficulties Bowls, Dyslexia, Depression……
Nurse Jackie is a disability nurse however I feel she is not confident or specialised to test for dyslexia, as she declined dyslexia for what it is, a disability. Doctor and nurses do not test for dyslexia as far as ive been told.
Dyslexia cannot be officially diagnosed using one single test. That’s because dyslexia can be mild, moderate, severe, or profound. Dyslexia can impact many different areas that’s why a Dyslexia Testing Specialist will use from 10 to 12 tests to investigate every area that might impacted by the dyslexic. My dyslexia is severe and meets the criteria, and the legal definition, of a learning disability. When nurse done her assessment as I see it came to her own conclusion dismissing it from her report.
In the report the nurse had documented the wold dyslexia? Nurse did not record the dyslexia screening report the same with Dr Mallick. The nurse at the medical went through the dyslexia screening page by page and thank me for posting. Nurse did not disclose my dyslexia as being severe which is a relevant, that I had a stress related illness.. The nurse discounted the disability, and treated me as ableed bodied All the facts doctors notes were not documented, no consideration given to the questioner and the difficulties day to day. During the interview i had to leave the room to change pads, but in the report no mention of this.
Noteworthy The nurse mad assumptions without regarding the true facts stating in her report client uses no pads but Nurse did not give examination in lower body. Noteworthy Nurse was still filling out form while I had left the room and entered back in room. The nurse states she had discussed with client consciousness. This did not happen.
Pg 11 Nurse states no function problem
Dyslexia is a function disability to do with the brain ?
Nurse stated no problems mental, congnitive and intellectual function. Dyslexia is a mental, congnitive and intellectual disability that affects the function? It is quite clear they do not understand dyslexia and definition.
Pg.18 Nurse states no evidence of a learning disability or impairment?
What does nurse think dyslexia is?
Pg10.Nurse states no evidence of severe function disability?
My A disability is defind under the law she was given the dyslexia screening what does she think dyslexia is ?
How nurse conducted medical test which was not correct for the purpose of how they were carried out.It is clear to me by her answers that she did not believe after her experiment. Which I feel she is not specialist to dismiss my disability. Devere dyslexia is defined under the law defined or dismissed for what it is as listed above.
Pg21 I was ask bt nurse to look at sentence all the same sentances but different sizes to ascertain what the size of print I could see .
Noteworthy nurse notes in her report able to read print I was not ask to read print, or ask if it was blurry to me .Dyslexic a visionary difficulties but it to do with how the brain sees it,and not like able bodied .These test I was given were not correct test for me.
The content of her report had same statements which were incorrect as though copied from Dr Mallicks report or while I was not in attendance.
If we investigated the videos of both medical I could prove both where falsifying the reports at least deceitful in their report. Stating client had had a bag was wearing coat had trouble getting it off. I did not have a coat I never carry bag, and this is the case for both medical.
And test carried there not suitable for dyslexics but for normal bodied enquiry. My disability is to do with the brain how it visualy sees words sound a dysfunction of brain.
Nurse gave me eye test also inappropriate for Irene’s syndrome moving text this test which took a few seconds was not suited for purpose.
Test’s for dyslexia are tested only by a specialist, and this nurse was not a specialist in this area. Its important to note that dyslexia has huge inconsistency in the brain each second min each hour.Going through the report has upset me and I would like to discuss all of it but what I’ve gone through has traumatised me. The whole medical was as complete shamble an embarrassment.
My Criticism regarding Dr Dipak Mallick medical 2010,
The report stated it was unlikely I could be affected by dyslexia or every day?
Dyslexia is a disability that you don’t have one day and not the next it’s a brain disorder, and the brain does not make a choice which day it going to affect me. You don’t have a disability one day and not the next. Dyslexia affects you every second minute every hour everyday unexpected. It’s important to note that dyslexia has huge inconsistency in the brain each second min each hour.
Regarding IBS it was not even talk in the reports or as main condition. suffer a great deal of distress the syndrome has been long standing for 20 years I have been off work for the same amount of time and attending medical for the same amount of time, and his unlikely to change. I had investigations done which were not in report. Under the disability act of 1995 that in assessing the like hood of an effect lasting for any period, account should be taken of the total period for which the effect exists.
With Irritable bowel syndrome I’m agitated and irritated by the everyday recurring chorionic pain I’m regularly fatigued and tense. It’s difficult to concentrate as I’m regularly in discomfort. Every day I hate waking up I’m curled up in a ball., I can’t eat from the extreme discomfort, the fullness and extreme trapped gas, I’m often sick and fatigued, I wake up tied from lake of sleep, having to get up with the pain in the night. I have to regularly have to move position, with a continual urge to defecate, an urgency to get to a toilet. I lose the bowl at least three to 4 times a week; the whole watery substance goes down my clothes, it’s embarrassing and upsetting, the substance squirts out while standing getting up from sitting. I repeatedly visit the toilet in the optimism of any release, release of pain. I have difficulty every day managing the pain breathing through spasms that take my breath away; I get panicky and anxious, lose focus on my day. The inconsistency I fear going any ware in case I lose my bowl. I have been attending medicals for many years because of the disability. The pain is acerbated by learning impairments, A stress related illness.
The Dr was arguing there was nothing wrong with me or my voice
In addition, i took medical evidence with me to an examination but the health professional he refused to take it into account when I complained he denied lather stating he don’t remember but, notes were stabled to the dyslexia report I seen him read 1front page of the report and drop it to the table . The docter was making assumption
The Dr told me I was uneducated stating it was only a spelling problem.
The doctor did not understand dyslexia and made assumption that I was uneducated stating it was only a spelling problem, Dyslexia is not defined by intelligence .The doctor inquired with staff regarding dyslexia and said it was the first time he come across dyslexia while working at the ATOS and admitted he did not know much about it. The he inquired with staff regarding dyslexia that failed then he rang a professional on the phone about dyslexia but the doctor inquired regarding voice dyslexia totally misunderstood the information given to him This is arrogant of a professional who should know dyslexia is a language and communication based disability .The doctor came back in the room and argued with me that there was nothing wrong with my voice It was upsetting to me. The doctor totally flouts the disabilities laws
The doctor took 20 mins out of my interview to inquire on the phone and with staff about dyslexia and took up my medical time.
Then mention in report there was no need to get up from chair but I was ask to leave the room twice this was not mentioned in the report, or that the time I spent in toilet at least 15mins each and total the time he had to fill in form. In a letter from Atos it stated I refused an examination which is not correct. He later stated I was given a function test that was a first I heard about this. I ask to leave he would not stop the doctor kept saying he had not filled out his form and that it would be a few minutes more but this continued throughout. I was told I was happy with interview, I crying throughout, and in pain.Not offered support,I was not allow time between thoughts or direct the questions, I was questioned in such a way I could not get my words out and stumbled over my words.Refused diary though I was told by cizience advice to write adiary and hand to docter. The doctor refused to look at my diary because I had not written with own hand. This diary was to be my communication. I find it hard to retrieve information from my brain and remember due to seriously poor memory.
Page 12. Dr Make no mention of Mental, cognitive and intellectual Function and I have dyslexia
Page 3 Dr failed to document I have Severe dyslexia the function that have effected with that type of disability day to day.The docter was aware of the information as he read the dyslexia screening paper and had inquired by phone additional the information was in the questioner.noteworthy Dr stated in his report that I said dyslexia is getting worse for several months and the condition started many years ago, is fulse. I have developmental Dyslexia, you are born with, it does not start in the middle of your life as Dr Mallick stated I said Dyslexia is neurological to do with the brain I have no control over my disability. I was horrified by these false statements
Page 3section 1, Dr documented Dyslexia as a condition it’s a syndrome, and Blames mental health on the family.
Dr Reported today was a bad day is false. Dyslexia is a disability effects are min to hour every day.
Dr states mental health problem was caused by my family is false.
Page 20 Dr states: Client’s memory is adequate, false. Refer dyslexic report I have very serious memory.
Page 11 Dr states Activity 12,13 ,14,15,16, does not apply to my disability. Severe Dyslexia is a disability understanding and focusing .learning and comprehension, memory and concentration awareness,
Page 4 Dr stated kitchen accidents were due to misfortune, this is false. NotworthyDr reported kitchen accidents are due to misfortune. But on the same page in the report accidents around the home are due to poor concentration. Not what I said in questioner.
Related to my disability balance and posture difficulties and seriously poor memory refer to my questionnaire, and the Dyslexia assessment. Dr states that I had no problems following is verbal direction is false. Relevant to dyslexia severe is not being able follow written or verbal direction owing to memory and tracking with great incontinency’s. Dyslexia is a learning disability impairs a person’s fluency and comprehension being able to read, and spell, manifest itself with difficulty with refer Phonological awareness, decoding, orthographic coding, Orthography, auditory short-term memory -working memory, concentration Cognition. Refer to Dyslexia sreening.Dr Reports I have no difficulty with activities and watching TV. This is an assumption and not the the answer I gave and does not reflect what i said in the questioner .Relevant to me being dyslexic is my memory I often ruminate i regularly lose concentration and go over thought of things I’ve forgotten. Sports ive never taken part in due to difficulties with poor balance I loose direction easily. TV I lose concentration and ruminate. Refer to balance poor posture and memory in the Dyslexia assessment. Dr reported that I receive visits from friends. Was an assumption I don’t have friends. I have difficulty with people, difficulties socialising getting my thoughts out Dyslexia is a communication difficulty verbal and non verbal Dr states unable to fill out form due to poor literacy. I have a disability that affects writing it has nothing to do with intelgence.Dr reported the client says she has no problem communicating and he makes false staments like this throughout, and refer to my questioner. Dyslexia is a Language communication verbal nonverbal disability with vast inconsistency due to the brain, verbal and non verbal and is recognized under the Dyslexia Discriminating act of 1995 as above. but yet I paas the medical on Misinterpret verbal or non-verbal communication to the existent of causing me distress on a daily basis.
Dr states client is able begin and continue to complete tasks and appointments without help. special needs I will always need help, with a wide range of tasks everyday tasks . Writing letters, Reading instructions Reading manuals, timetabling and prioritizing activities completing tasks. I have difficulties with a seriously poor Memory remembering spoken instructions, remembering messages, passing on telephone messages correctly, remembering codes and numbers, remembering appointments, and tasks. The difficulties with organisation and memory extend into everyday life Managing household tasks, household finances and
money. Reading instructions, and letters keeping track of possessions. Organisational Skills appointments I get the times and places wrong and generally live in a muddled or disorganised way. Timetabling tasks and prioritising activities, Completing tasks in a logical and efficient manner, managing and organising incoming information, keeping control of paperwork bills, keeping on top of work tasks, expressing my ideas clearly, difficulty directions and finding my way. Poor hand-eye co-ordination (slow and untidy handwriting, poor presentation of written work, and inaccurate sequence and use of mouse, keying on key board, calculator or telephone. speech I struggle to find the right words and to express my ideas clearly in sequence , especially if I’m ‘on the spot’ or on the telephone i fumble over worlds . Feel, embarrassed, anxious frustrated.
Dr states I have no problems with social interaction or travelling on own to location, due to mental function is fusle. Dyslexia is a communication difficulty refers to questioner.
I do react dyslexic people have to deal not only with their own frustration about their various inefficiencies but also with other people’s lack of understanding of our difficulties. As a result I feel a mixture of emotions – despair, anger, embarrassment, anxiety, lack of confidence I get defensive or aggressive.
page 18 Dr states client is unlikely to be distress every day by misinterpreting communication.
Ihave no control over my brain and its not as if its a condition like the docter thinks that you have one day and not the next, its a disability which has immense unpredictable nature.. Dyslexia is a stress related illness I’m unaware of the changes it’s frightening; it’s confusing, and unexpected. I have difficulty expressing what I want to say in an organized and logical way. Pronouncing certain words with correct pitch volume, speed worlds are delayed with inconsistencies difficulties with processing & memory (refer) . halted phrases, goes high, I leave out words out. I can’t remember whole sentence or sequence its frustrating and tiring. I panic in situations making it worse I feel inhibited entering discussions because of the effort involved.
Page 5Dr states stood for 3 min is false. There was no reason why I should have had to stand still I recived no medical examination. notworthy Dr states examination was not appropriate due to clients back pain. But on Page 20 he states client refused examination. He has made false staments and am angry.
Notworthy Dr states I did not need to get up from chair, is fusle. I was ask to leave the room by the doctor on 2 separate occasion while the doctor inquired about dyslexia Dr inquired with staff about dyslexia. The second time Dr made phone inquiry. On another 2 separate occasions I left the room, I was not asked by the docter why I had left or what was wrong, it was assumed it was the back. Dr had taken up 25 minutes of my interview has made it appear there was no reason I should of got up and the time I was given was the whole time.
Dr admitted he never encountered dyslexia that he thought it was a literacy problem that upset me. The second time was to phone a professional about voice speech totally the wrong inquiring to what I said, which was dyslexia effected speech patterns ,sequence order of speech not voice speech? He returned to the room arguing with me. Dr was arrogant, which was upsetting.
Page 11 norworthy Docter states none on the page apply to me :Activity s12,13,14,15,16, what does the docter think a dyslexia and learning difficulty’s ? I’m so fatigued I’m accident prone regularly have accidents around my home, I lose concentration affecting daily life is greatly. Pick up pots not realising their heavy and full of boiling water, and scolded myself, as well hot stove, reaching into an oven without a oven mitts. I regally forget and leave stove burners on under empty pans, brush pans knocking them off, I forget to attend to the oven. Misjudge when cutting I’ve stab myself. Docter also states I said minimal damage is done to home fulse refrere to questioner tells as it is.Dyslexia Memory and concentrationcommunicating Learning, thought the sequence and order of thoughts ,short term memory the concentration I often feel dethatched . I have no awareness I’m switching tasks, this effects me socially I get trouble and causes arguments. I’m occupied with thoughts of what I have forgotten daily. I ruminate lose all concept of time. Have issues following more than one set of instructions and directions at a time. Difficulties with establishing my speed and occasion. Understanding to learn, understanding the routine, maintain and sustaining what I’ve to learn.. Correlated is a stressful illness mentally affecting my health and wellbeing. My lapse in concentration causes regular accidents It takes me 7 times longer in time it would take another to complete a task. These have to be repeated over and next day. Dyslexia and IBS the elegies affects my life greatly.
Dyslexia effcts execution to tasksTasks take longer 7 times longer of a time it would take another to complete. Significantly impacts on my life making it more difficult, stressed, and acerbated by medication. I can’t manage tasks normally because I have difficulties with my memory thoughts and comprehension in learning. I have a lapse’s in memory, lack concentration and consistency. I get overwhelmed by the tasks that should be completed. I overlook tasks I have issues following more than one set of instructions and directions at a time; I switch tasks with no comprehension. I struggle with routine difficulties organising planning myself. I have a tendency day dream and lose all concept of time. I get occupied with thoughts of what I have forgotten daily. Trouble getting started I’m unable to prioritise. I have to be shown repeated demonstrations in learning which is physically fatiguing I avoid tasks clearly beyond my capabilities. Reading witting and visual, visual stress, using a pen, digits on phone, setting an alarm; dials on washing machine & cooker.
Dyslexia Initiating and sustaining my actions I’m not aware at the time I need reminding.My mood changes regularly I’m hyper one moment then I’m down the next, can’t get rid of the thoughts, affects my relationships. Everything is an effort I find it hard being so fatigued to get up and get washed, even cooking or washing.Fear going anywhere where I feel at risk of soiling myself because of the unpredictability nature of the syndrome. I don’t feel equal to other in society I feel a great sense of sadness and guilt that I cannot perform like others and consider myself worthlessness and I find it difficult to be happyDr stated client had Reduced expression I may be depressed and unable to define that I was depressed? I was I pain and taking medication for depression, and not for dyslexia as stated by Dr on page 12
Page 11 Dr states section 23 of same page she has accidents around home due to poor concentration. On the same page states Activity 14 concentration does not apply to me. page
18 Docter states client has given no evidence of a severe mental problem or impairment of cognitive. Surly Dr is experienced to recognise a disability when he sees one that’s what he’s trained for. It should not be up to me to prove I have a disability? The doctor read the dyslexia screening report he inquired on the phone regarding?dyslexia his impairment of cognitive ability; dyslexia is a physical and mental impairment.
Page 12Dr states I have no recurrent persistent of thoughts. My Memory is seriously poor and refer dyslexia screening it is a constant battle going over recurring thought of what I have forgotten, and moment on a daily bases . I have difficulty thought the sequence and order of thought and writing.Dr states client does not experience perception or “misinterprets” what’s seen or is hears or things not there, no difficulty with cognition .I suffer with Dyslexia IBS A stress related illness related anxiety and depression Learning disability that impairs that I feel detached and comprehension, so I often require prompting to get thoughts out. language communication difficulties misinterpreting what I hear I have limited function of memory lot of problems Attention, visual processing speed, reasoning, forming the ideas and working memory, misinterpreting communications. Page 15 however Dr states activity 29 misinterprets, does apply.
Page 12Dr states dyslexia medication is of average strength.
I never heard of tablets for dyslexia.
Dr made an assumption regarding tablets were for Ibs. But they were for spasms /depression.
page 13Dr states client does not have impairment that I coped at the interview. I was crying through out.What does doctor think dyslexia, depression and pain is?
Dr stated himself in his report the client was crying. This is not a client that was coping I was in pain I ask the Dr to stop the pain was so intense and he would not I wanted to go home. I was crying as he said himself client was crying throughout , I was told I would fail if I refused to finished with the interview, Dr continued looking at the screen and simple said stop stop crying the sooner Iyou cooperated sooner I could leave. Noteworthy Page 21 client at interview.
Page 13Dr states client does not have impairment.
Dyslexia is cognitive impairment of the brain, impairment of memory an impairment of processing language focus concentration your impaired in reading the impairments are a a snap shot. coping with change is relevant to my disability frame of mind, change means my whole day is out. I get overwhelmed by the tasks that should be completed I cannot cope with unforeseen and expected changes in my routine changes with appointments Time, Planning, finances, shopping, meals, writing maintain organising lists, it causes me anxiety I get bewildered with it all and I get upset. I avoid dealings with others as I can’t cope with problems get Interrupted abdominal pain, and lack in sleep. It is a constant repetition of remembering routine’s and what i have forgot impacting significantly on my day to day life. page 13Docters states none apply activertiy 17,18,19,supporting evidence is given if the When you have a leaning difficulty it obvious that im going to find it hard to cope with change to my disability I’m misinterpreted people and get into Social conflicts, Im often involve in some misunderstanding. I have difficulty with my social cues, expressing myself, holding a conversation is stressful.I’m often in pain, I fear going anywhere were people are looking at me I feel at risk of soiling myself because of the unpredictability nature of the Ibs. People are too critical, I hate it. I don’t feel equal to other in society. Dyslexics have difficulties finding places i panic when i get lost. Coping in socially Coping with social pressures can be overwhelming I find it difficult holding a conversation, additionally because of my memory and mood, and I get in to Social conflicts I often involve some misunderstanding. I have difficulty with my social cues, expressing myself, which upsets me and my whole day is out. My behaviour i get hipperativerty Can’t cope with socially pressures Bills appointments going to the local post office doctors i panic if there is people around or waiting upset me and ruines my day. If I get the wrong item of shopping I have tendency to erupt, as it’s an effort to explain again. Don’t like people criticising me I react quickly i was abused at school and I was greatly failed by the educational system, affecting my life, it’s been somewhat traumatic i get frustrated and I can lose it. I’m unaware my spech pattern go up and down and I’m shouting, worse when stress. Upset l shake or go into tears Difficulty getting my thoughts and emotions out. .
Page 14 Dr states that the client does not have impairment and unlikely to have significant disability of mental function. Noteworthy I have severe Dyslexia so I complained to Atos you will see from the letter they mention the dyslexia they mention the doctor gave me a function no examination as explained above. A few question from a screen and he read the first page of my dyslexia screening then im told nothing was wrong with me . Dyslexia a Mental disorder a neuropsychological developmental disorder physical dysfunction restricting daily living, anxiety disorder, depression. Dyslexia is marked impairments difficulties in maintaining concentration due to memory. Perception, motor speed and coordination, attention and concentration, visual-motor function, memory across verbal and visual modalities, receptive and expressive speech,
Page15Dr states now that the client does have significant impairment of their health function.
Definition of Dyslexia is several different problems in brain function sensory impairment motor, impairment of the ability to read this is caused by a difference in brain function and effecting health function. The ability to decode and understand a new word is dependent on the person’s ability to break it down into phonemes, the basic units of sound. Dyslexia is the result of a deficiency in this phonemic processing.Reading disorder is a learning disorder that involves significant impairment of reading accuracy, speed, or comprehension to the extent that the impairment interferes with academic achievement or activities of daily life. People with reading disorder perform reading tasks well below the level one would expect on the basis of their general intelligence, educational opportunities, and physical health.
Page 5 noteworthy Dr states client said she does not have Dyslexia?which is fulse and you will see the should be sack? In my opium the Dr is saving ass from what he did not understand in case it comes back to to bight him It is clearly silly of him to say such a thing considering it’s in the questioner he himself argued over it he inquires about itold me there was nothing wrong twice while in the medical and he read the front page of the dyslexia screening and he inquired with staff.so it would be a bit odd of me to say I said I did not have it.
Dr Mallick also did not take into account the Ibs dyslexia so what did he ask my own Gp ?. Dr mallick incorrectly noted i was taking medication for dyslexia the medication I don’t take medication for dyslexia never heard of such a thing I take medication for IBS, and if he had read the questioner or ask my docter it would have been further understood Dr Mallicks medical report is copied by Nurse Jackie she adds the exact same mistake that in Dr Mallicks report of 2010, that I take medication for dyslexia though it is clear in my questioner this id not mentioned and I was not ask by her.
Page 3section 1,
Dr documented Dyslexia as a condition, it’s a syndrome, and Blames mental health on the family.
This is an assumption from the docter. My Mental health is due to the disability, mentioned in the questioner. Dr failed to document the client has severe dyslexia and is very significant as “severe Dyslexia” is recognized as disability.
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Dr stated client stated, I said dyslexia is getting worse for several months and the condition started many years ago.
You have to be born with born with Developmental Dyslexia it does not start in the middle of your life as Dr Mallick falsely stated. Dyslexia is a syndrome not a condition it does not come or go like a condition. Dyslexia is neurological to do with the brain I have no control over my disability. I was horrified by attitude when I ask him did he know about dyslexia that he arguing with me but he clearly knew nothing about dyslexia apart that he thought it was a reading problem and it was the first time he had come across dyslexia at the medical.
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Dr Reported today was a bad day A syndrome is always there and you have to be born with it- hence the word developmental dyslexia.
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Dr states mental health problem was caused by my family is false.
Dyslexia is a stress related illness I get frustrated as I have no control over the disability causing a large extent of anxiety ,the mood changes because I have a the seriously poor memory.
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Dr stated kitchen accidents were due to misfortune this is false. Related to my disability balance and posture difficulties and seriously poor memory refer to my questionnaire, and the Dyslexia assessment.
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Dr states that I had no problems following is verbal direction is false. Relevant to dyslexia severe is not being able follow written or verbal direction owing to memory and tracking with great incontinency’s. Dyslexia is a learning disability impairs a person’s fluency and comprehension being able to read, and spell, manifest itself with difficulty with refer Phonological awareness, decoding, orthographic coding, Orthography, auditory short-term memory -working memory, concentration Cognition. Refer to Dyslexia report
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Dr Reports I have no difficulty with activities and watching TV. This is an assumption and not the the answer I gave and does not reflect what i said in the questioner .Relevant to me being dyslexic is my memory I often ruminate i regularly lose concentration and go over thought of things I’ve forgotten. Sports ive never taken part in due to difficulties with poor balance I loose direction easily. TV I lose concentration and ruminate. Refer to balance poor posture and memory in the Dyslexia assessment. Dr reported that I receive visits from friends. Was an assumption I don’t have friends. I have difficulty with people, difficulties socialising getting my thoughts out Dyslexia is a communication difficulty verbal and non verbal. Dr states unable to fill out form due to literacy. Relevant to me with Dyslexia im special needs i have a learning disability difficulties with the Cognitive processing of the language and poor Motor Skills, impaired coordination balance. Trouble with writing, copying, pen grip, handwriting varies can is illegible. I’m clumsy, uncoordinated and as mentioned poor at sports i have difficulties with motor tasks. I often confuse left and right, over under.
Dr reported there was no problem communicating. Dyslexia is a Language communication disability with vast inconsistency due to the brain, verbal and non verbal And is recognized under the Dyslexia Discriminating act of 1995 as above. Dr states client is able begin and continue to complete tasks and appointments without help. Severe Dyslexic are special needs we will always need help, and with a wide range of tasks everyday tasks . Writing letters, Reading instructions Reading manuals,timetabling and prioritizing activities completing tasks. I have difficulties with a seriously poor Memory remembering spoken instructions, remembering messages, passing on telephone messages correctly, remembering codes and numbers, remembering appointments, and tasks. The difficulties with organisation and memory extend into everyday life Managing household tasks, household finances and money. Reading instructions, and letters keeping track of possessions. Organisational Skills appointments I get the times and places wrong and generally live in a muddled or disorganised way. Timetabling tasks and prioritising activities, Completing tasks in a logical and efficient manner, managing and organising incoming information, keeping control of paperwork bills, keeping on top of work tasks, expressing my ideas clearly, difficulty directions and finding my way. Poor hand-eye co-ordination (slow and untidy handwriting, poor presentation of written work, and inaccurate sequence and use of mouse, keying on key board, calculator or telephone. speech I struggle to find the right words and to express my ideas clearly in sequence , especially if I’m ‘on the spot’ or on the telephone i fumble over worlds . Feel, embarrassed, anxious frustrated.
I do react dyslexic people have to deal not only with their own frustration about their various inefficiencies but also with other people’s lack of understanding of our difficulties. As a result I feel a mixture of emotions – despair, anger, embarrassment, anxiety, lack of confidence I get defensive or aggressive. Dr reported kitchen accidents are due to misfortune.But on the same page reports accidents around the home are due to poor concentration. The difficulties are due to balance memory overall the disability as mentioned in questioner. Refer Dyslexia assessment. Dr states I have no problems with social interaction or travelling on own to location, due to mental function is fusle. Dyslexia is a communication difficulty refers to questioner.
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Dr states I did not need to get up from chair is fusle.
I was ask to leave the room on 2 separate occasion while the doctor inquired about another doctor aware of the disability, next the Dr inquired with staff about dyslexia. The second time Dr made phone inquiry. On another 2 separate occasions I left the room to change, I was not asked why I had left or what was wrong, it was assumed. Dr had taken up 25 minutes of my interview has made it appear there was no reason I should of got up and the time I was given was the whole time. Dr admitted he never encountered dyslexia that he thought it was a literacy problem that upset me. The second time was to phone a professional about voice speech totally the wrong inquiring to what I said, which was dyslexia effected speech patterns ,sequence order of speech not voice speech?.He returned to the room arguing with me. Dr was arrogant, which was upsetting.Dr stated I bent down to floor able to get up without assit he failed to mention. My Back locked and I held on to his table to portion myself.Dr states stood for 3 min is false. There was no reason to stand still, I did not reactive an examination. I walked to toilet. Dr states examination was not appropriate due to clients back pain. But on Page 20 he states client refused examination.
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Dr states Activity 12,13 ,14,15,16, does not apply to my disability. Severe Dyslexia is a disability understanding and focusing .learning and comprehension, memory and concentration awareness, execution, imitating and sustaining in the completion of tasks mood changes: I have a stress related illness and I’m often in pain Dyslexia a language & communication:- I have difficulties learning understanding the language verbal and non verbal . I misinterpret verbally and none verbally. The cognitive disability affects my ability to process, access, or remember and retain information and learning experience. I have a lapse’s in memory, very poor in working memory, affecting my comprehension ability to learn routines. More than one difficulties using my keyboard and mouse i.e. dexterity hand -eye coordination, visually sequencing and memory, to a normal standard.
I’m unable to prioritise, cannot effectively finish tasks minutes later or the following day without receiving more demonstrations and support. I have difficulty in my management skills and organising prioritising etc I have an unknown comprehension of me switching tasks.Others difficulties tasks are often overlooked as I’m easily distracted, I struggle to follow instruction as I have poor attention span to listening or retaining information. I get board easily unless something is enjoyablee.I have difficulty waiting for things. The telephone and listening I misinterpret what people say I can’t respond to my thoughts quickly enough take simple notes or messages. I have difficulties in remembering even short sequences of numbers in correct order using the dialling pad without it becoming a repartition. Dials on washing machine cooker and thermostat. Cooking and sequence I leave pots on and forget about them. I leave my electrical devices on. I feel unequal to others in society and a great sense of grief I cannot perform like others, I often feel worthlessness. Life for me is a struggle difficult to be happy.
Not being aware is result of the dyslexia and IBS
I’m so fatigued I’m accident prone regularly have accidents around my home, I lose concentration. I pick up pots not realising their heavy or full of boiling liquid that i scold myself regularly I forget the stove is o and I have a tendency to reach into an oven without my oven mitts. I regally forget and leave stove burners and empty pans go black. Alot of the time I brush pans knocking them off, I forget to attend to what’s in the oven. Misjudge when im cutting that tend to stab my own self. I tend to have many due to accidents Lapses in my concentration combination of medication, pain, discomfort, poor memory.
Dyslexia Memory and concentration, concentration I often feel dethatched. I have no awareness I’m switching tasks, and this affects me socially I get trouble and causes arguments. I’m occupied with thoughts of what I have forgotten daily. I ruminate lose all concept of time. Have issues following more than one set of instructions and directions at a time. Understanding to learn, the routine, maintain and sustain what I’ve to learn. A stressful illness mentally affecting my health and wellbeing. It takes me 7 times longer in time it would take another to complete a task. These have to be repeated over and next day. Dyslexia and IBS the elegies affects my life greatly.
Dyslexia effcts me execution tasks take longer 7 times longer of a time it would take another to complete. Significantly impacts on my life making it more difficult, stressed, and acerbated by medication. I can’t manage tasks normally because I have difficulties with my memory thoughts and comprehension in learning. I have a lapse’s in memory, lack concentration and consistency. I get overwhelmed by the tasks that should be completed. I overlook tasks I have issues following more than one set of instructions and directions at a time; I switch tasks with no comprehension. I struggle with routine difficulties organising planning myself. I have a tendency day dream and lose all concept of time. I get occupied with thoughts of what I have forgotten daily. Trouble getting started I’m unable to prioritise. I have to be shown repeated demonstrations in learning which is physically fatiguing I avoid tasks clearly beyond my capabilities. Reading witting and visual, visual stress, using a pen, digits on phone, setting an alarm; dials on washing machine & cooker.
Dyslexia Initiating and sustaining my actions I’m not aware at the time I need reminding.My mood changes regularly I’m hyper one moment then I’m down the next, can’t get rid of the thoughts, affects my relationships. Everything is an effort I find it hard being so fatigued to get up and get washed, even cooking or washing.Fear going anywhere where I feel at risk of soiling myself because of the unpredictability nature of the syndrome. I don’t feel equal to other in society I feel a great sense of sadness and guilt that I cannot perform like others and consider myself worthlessness and I find it difficult to be happy.Dr stated client had Reduced expression I may be depressed and unable to define that I was depressed? I was I pain and taking medication for depression, and not for dyslexia as stated by Dr states section 23 of same page she has accidents around home due to poor concentration.
“On the same page states Activity 14 concentration does not apply to me. “
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Dr states I have no recurrent persistent of thoughts is fusle.Memory is seriously poor refer dyslexia report it is a constant battle going over recurring thought of what I have forgotten, and moment on a daily bases . I have difficulty thought the sequence and order of thought and writing.Dr states client does not experience perception or “misinterprets” what’s seen or is hears or things not there, no difficulty with cognition .Relevent to me is as a dyslexic is Perception of language communication difficulties misinterpreting what we hear and by eyesight. dyslexia is limited brain function memory Attention, visual processing speed, logic and reasoning, visualization and visual memory, misinterpreting communications. Learning disability that impairs perception and comprehension, so I often require prompting to get thoughts out. Page 15 however Dr states activity 29 misinterprets, does apply.Dr states dyslexia medication is of average strength. I never heard of tablets fordyslexia. Dr made an assumption the tablets were for Ibs and the depression.
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Dr states client does not have impairment that I coped at the interview. Dr stated himself in his report the client was crying. This is not a client that was coping I was in pain with the IBS I ask the Dr to stop as the pain was so intense and I was feeling distressed,I wanted to go home. I was told I would fail if I refused to finished with the interview I was in tears throughout, Dr continued looking at the screen, more concernedfilling out his docs..Dr states client does not have impairment, Is not correct. Dyslexia is cognitive impairment of the brain, impairment of memory an impairment of processing language focus concentration your impaired in reading the impairments are a a snap shot. coping with change is relevant to my disability I have a severe learning disability, frame of mind, change means my whole day is out. I get overwhelmed by the tasks that should be completed I cannot cope with unforeseen and expected changes in my routine changes with appointments Time, Planning, finances, shopping, meals, writing maintain organising lists, it causes me anxiety I get bewildered with it all and I get upset. I avoid dealings with others as I can’t cope with problems get Interrupted abdominal pain, and lack in sleep. It is a constant repetition of remembering routine’s and what i have forgot impacting significantly on my day to day life.
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Dr states no problem with walking. Having Irritable bowel syndrome the pain discomfort can appear out of the blue Every day I hate waking up I’m curled up in a ball. The pain so intense I am doubled up, I can’t eat from the extreme discomfort, the fullness and extreme trapped gas, I’m often sick and fatigued, I wake up tied from lake of sleep having to get up with the pain in the night.Just walking a few steps the pain and discomfort can start having to walk back cause’s me allot of stress., when this happens have to keep stopping. Additionally my medication regularly makes me feel depressed and dizzy; and have no energy. I Fear going anywhere as I feel at risk of soiling myself, as to the unpredictability nature of the syndrome.
When it comes to Standing and sitting the decree of Pain and discomfort I experience having Irritable Bowel Syndrome makes my day impossible to continue sitting in one position, I often a need to move positions or lie as I’m regularly due to the discomfort.
I frequently visit the toilet in the optimism of any release. The contractions take my breath away; I have difficulty breathing and managing the pain I get anxious and panicky, and lose a focus. Anything regularly occurring or in advance, affects my life greatly.
I have dyspraxia difficulty standing for long time periods. Poor balance and posture.
When getting up a lot of the time I am in pain with the IBS my experiencing make it impossible to maintain my position for some length of time without having to re position myself; I’m regularly in pain and in discomfort
Bending and kneeling as I result of dyspraxia I have Poor balance and posture refer to dyslexia screening report. I’m clumsy I misjudge my distance until it’s too late and the object is in front of me. I regularly bump in to objects I trip over my own feet.My poor balance I’m told is related to my syndrome dyslexia.
Dr states no problem with Picking up and moving.
Frequently have neck pain from tieless bending the neck for periods to concentrate on reading writing tasks. I’m regularly focused on the pain and discomfort with I
Comment by Christine — March 2, 2012 @ 2:24 pm
I forgot to say office Atos luton bedforsdhire office
Comment by katherine — March 2, 2012 @ 2:29 pm
Im starting to wonder why they are not accepting my disability, and has this happened to anyone?
Comment by katherine — March 2, 2012 @ 2:58 pm
Yes Katherine Thousands and thousands of people, the DWP and ATOS are in denial..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 2, 2012 @ 6:43 pm
My wife recently read a report in the paper saying that ATOS have bitten off more than they can chew and at present for them to clear all the people they have sent form out to it woud take them until next year. A note to people if you have a doctors letter saying that you are unable to go to the test centre then they have to come and see you according to the DWP.
Comment by Anonymous — March 3, 2012 @ 9:31 pm
I always ask the DWP for a doctor to come to my address if a fitness examination is required, I have had 9 examinations over the past 5 years, every time the so called medical expert has said I am fit for work or shall be fit in the next 30 days. This however is going against what the NHS specialist have said ( That being), how I am still standing and walking around my home they do not know, I am on Morphein and other strong drugs, and can bearly stand, I cannot pick up any weight any more, cannot bend or kneel down, I am totaly incapable, but please remember that Atos say I am fit for work, well I was fit for work about 8 years ago when I was serving this country in the military in the gulf, but when you get booted out on to the rubbish pile serving your country means nothing. The whole of the atos staff should have their licenses removed and told to retrain in medical disabilities, but first train them in human respect, and for the people out there who claim disability benifit when they do not need it, you should be made to join the military and then sent to afganistan for a 6 month tour, for you discust me.
Comment by Panthar10 — March 3, 2012 @ 10:03 pm
Hello Anon.
ATOS are rattling through them as fast as they can, that’s another reason for all the blundering and false assessment reports, they can’t cope, that’s good I don’t want them to cope..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 3, 2012 @ 10:24 pm
Hello Panthar.
It costs ATOS money and time to do home visits that’s why they make it as difficult as possible to agree, they prefer it if you arrive at the assessment centre, that way they can denounce you as a scrounger and fit for work, doesn’t matter if you crawl in there they still find you fit for work..!!
Comment by dwpexamination — March 3, 2012 @ 10:29 pm
ive just read most of the blogs on here and i have a medical on tuesday im a bit nervous about going but i had a welfare officer come to see me today they do similar work as social workers,however ive had ear problems since i was a kid,im now an adult,i suffer with terrible ear aches due to tinnitus i have loss of hearing,suffer with dizziness,vertigo,and at times have been physically sick throwing up,now this illness has affected my eyesight ive been to the opticans on 3 different occasions and once at my gps they have found nothing really wrong with my eyelids as i was complaining about my eyelids being really puffy and my face hurting me my gp is crap i recently changed my gp but they are crap aswell make me feel like im making it up,i get a build up of pressure in my ears which is fluid,awful tightness around my head,im not sleeping im lucky if i have 4 hours sleep,have to keep a bucket in my bedroom as my toilet is too far from my bedroom and due to the constant ringing in my ears and dizziness i cant make it to the toilet,ive also been given a hearing aid to block out the dizziness but i can still hear it, i cant concentrate ears very sensitive to noise aswell its really awful as it feels like im walking around with 2 fridges stuck to my ears,thats the only way i can describe this awful illness,ive also had an operation that was about 10 years ago its made no difference,my ear nose and throat doctor is not very sympathetic aswell,last year i asked him if he could send me a letter of support for me to give to my housing as we have lots of stairs where we live as i have to move due to this illness,im slowly getting there with my housing thats only because my mps helping me,however the ear nose throat doctor did’nt want to do the letter but i explained to him i will have to go over hes head as all i wanted was a letter of support,he sent me the letter and it was a very good one explaining everything i have wrong and how it affects me,im taking that letter with me when i go for my medical,all i can say is even your own gp or specialists dont want to help you,especially your own gps, ive been complaining for ages about these terrible headaches my gp told me they dont send patients to see anyone if you have a headache,what they fail to understand this is not just a headache as the terrible puffy eyelids happened around the same time as the bad headaches,this illness can cause tumours,WHO THE FUCKING HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE,ive got a son to raise,they dont care about us,they only sit in their office getting huge salaries,IF IVE GOT A TUMOUR i know who i’ll be pointing the finger at,sif they meddle with me, therefore i’ll be going for the medical as i have arthritis in my lower back affected me after i had my son,i will be letting them know about that aswell,im struggling to get out of bed in the morning,im scared to bath,i sit in my house for days frightened to go out because of the dizziness and vertigo,i will be appealing no matter what the outcome,so all i can say is goodluck to everyone,any comments appreiciated
Comment by nik — March 16, 2012 @ 9:55 pm
Hello Nik.
I personally have similar problems with my ears and a similar problem with my back, so I’m going to give you the benefit of my experience over the last three years, because I want to save you a lot of heartache.
First of all, it’s very difficult to get something from an appeal panel with ear problems, I know because I’ve tried and failed, I lost my first ever appeal trying to do so, but you can get something with your back problems and that is what you need to try and concentrate on by using the descriptors that the Government have directed the appeal panels to follow.
Your ear problems may gain some sympathy and you can play on that especially the dizziness, but don’t bank on it, it’s not your main card yes I know it’s incredible that’s what I thought, so your main card is your back problem, if you look at the descriptors you will see that it asks if you can stand for a certain length of time, how far can you walk before you need to stop and rest before your discomfort is so serious you need to stop to rest, that is what you need to concentrate on to be eligible for ESA.
Lets look at my case briefly, I naively thought that because I had herniating dura matter in my left ear with pain and dizziness I would be eligible for ESA, I was wrong they do not provide descriptors on the ESA 50 questionnaire for ear problems except for reduced hearing and I got 5 points for that and that was all, which isn’t enough for ESA, because the dizziness and tinnitus wasn’t relevant as far as they were concerned, but in my next appeal I had learned by my mistake and found that they were interested in my back problem and I was asked how far I could walk before I had to stop etc, I replied up to 200 Yards, I got points for that, I was also asked how long I could stand for, and I replied around ten minutes, I had some supporting evidence from my GP and the panel were persuaded and I received 18 points which is more than enough to be entitled to ESA.
I hope you can grasp what I’m saying, you must concentrate on your back problems, the descriptors have changed as well, the new descriptors were introduced on the 28th of March last year http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=limited%20capability%20for%20work%20descriptors%20from%2028%20march%202011%20(pdf%2040kb)&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newcastle.gov.uk%2Fbenefits-and-council-tax%2Fwelfare-rights-and-money-advice%2Fwork-capability-assessment-descriptors&ei=4cNjT4j3LpKyhAf3oMi0CA&usg=AFQjCNHiQS6oa0lQRi3DfSQgwpxjwYEVsA&cad=rja, and are designed to make it as tough as possible, even people in a wheelchair can fail if they cannot understand these new descriptors, for instance to give you an idea, a wheelchair user will be asked if they can propel their wheelchair a certain distance, and since most can and will reply yes, then they will find there is no points for that and will not be entitled to ESA unless they have something else up their sleeve, like No I cannot propel my wheelchair that distance because I have arthritis in my hands.
Everything is darkness and fog with these new descriptors, one person on the forum who didn’t even use a wheelchair and just had a back problem was asked by the appeal panel that if you did use a wheelchair how far do you think you could propel it ? by chance he happened to have arthritis in his hands and said well I’ve never used a wheelchair but I don’t think I could get very far because of my arthritis, it was just pure chance he did have arthritis, because if he didn’t then I strongly suspect he would have been denied ESA.
So beware of the new descriptors and watch what you write on the ESA 50 or appeal submission.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 16, 2012 @ 10:32 pm
thanks for your response i looked up what you have how does that affect you?i have something called menieres disease which causes dizziness,vertigo,nauseas aswell i also wear a hearing aid as it affects my balance,my welfare officer came round yesterday and he did’nt seem reasurring neither,i do have a degenerative disc disease (arthritis)most days im in pain ive had physio about 5 times,accupuncture,chiropracter aswell this has been ongoing for over 10 years my gp gave me some other pain killers and said if i need to go for more phsio then i just call the number she gave me,im at my wits end and im thinking of calling them up and getting them to rearrange another date as my dads just passed away,i dont think i cant handle to be interrogated at this moment in time,im not sure how they would deal with that or be symphathectic also i use to get carers allowance and it got stopped in 2008 which i was not aware of as we had moved from one address to another and i did not tell them ive had letters from income support though and dla since me and my sons payments were still being payed into the bank though as your bank account dont change,i only found out that my carers allowance had stopped when i received the review form about 3 -4 weeks ago,my son gets dla as far as im aware but when i called carers allowance they said my sons dla ward had stopped when i received a letter from income support it says in black and white that my son still gets it,im really worried as i dont think i should be going to the medical as i thought i was classed as hes carer
Comment by nik — March 17, 2012 @ 8:45 am
Hi Nik.
Unfortunately the Government decided three years ago that anyone who receives any kind of sickness benefit will be assessed on their fitness to work, remember if you have been keeping up with the latest news you will know that Cameron has promised the public that he will put an end to the something for nothing culture and with a cheer from the crowd he announced that by hook or by crook he will remove 1 million people from sickness benefits,he forgot to tell the crowd though that he meant whether they were ill or not, and if they can’t do it legally they will carry on doing it illegally by fabricating functional assessments.
We all need to go, the assessment itself is not a problem, it’s just a bunch of questions that are so obviously stupid that a child can see they are just asked to try and catch you out. No the real problems start when you receive the brown letter from the DWP informing you that you are fit for work, if this happens to you then keep in contact with welfare rights and also log in here at the forum http://www.dwpexamination.org and get support there as well.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 17, 2012 @ 11:12 am
i will go to the medical and i will take all the nescecary paperwork my ent did me a good letter last year its dated july 2011,ive already photo copyied it, but i will take the original aswell i have got a paperbag of medication aswell but reading alot on here it does’nt seem to make any difference if you take letters medication etc as atos dont even look at it,oh well if they dont i will mention that, if i get knocked back and taken off my benefit,this site has had some interesting information,i suffer with vertigo and dizziness how is someone going to examine me when im swaying side to side,im wondering do they examine you or just ask questions,does anyone know?my welfare officer said he would come with me if i have to appeal,he told me that they are looking to see if you can physically move your arms and legs,my friend wants to take me there and wait outside for when im finished,does anyone know if that goes against their rules aswell stupid people,and another thing ive heard that atos are a french medical provider what i have wrong is a a french name menieres,i was getting scared about going but now i think im looking forward to it,
Comment by nik — March 17, 2012 @ 11:48 am
I’ve been for the medical, failed, notified by post over a FORTNIGHT after the event and subsequently, failed the medical, yet, at the same time, I’m in constant pain and on strong pain medication, my diet HAS to be low-fat and compatible with my IBS and yes, if I stand still for long periods without moving, it hurts.
I’m waiting to go back into hospital under the care of a specialist to determine the cause of the pain and discomfort (I can’t wear tight clothing as it aggrevates the pain and have given up my voluntary work at a theatre as a consequence) as I had my gallbladder out last year and found out since then that pancreatic issues can rear their ugly heads. I’ve had an MRI scan and a CT scan so far to find stones – thankfully, there are none, but my ability for my body to process fat coupled with the IBS leads to some really scary moments when they collide – usually involving a lot of washing – but I can’t do that as I’ve no washing machine and I hand wash everything – which I can’t do as it means bending and that means after just a couple of minutes, I’m in absolute agony.
For the same reason, I can’t bend over the bath to wash my hair.
Add low blood pressure to the mix – the warmer it gets, the dizzier I become and yes, it affects my SPEECH!!!
While everyone else is out enjoying the sun in summer, I’m praying for rain and cooler temps… I use my ankles as a barometer as they like to swell up in warm stifling environments for the fun of it. Yes, I’ve been on courses in the past where my ankles have resulted in my being sent home – at least on four ocassions. Once while I was at ‘Standguide’. The manager didn’t think I should go home at all, but when I tried to walk across the floor, I couldn’t.
SO yes, sometimes, my health is weather dependant! Where is that question in ATOS’s magic computer? ah yes, nowhere.
How often do I have to wash underwear I have soiled? at least three times a month. My diet is a nightmare at the best of times and I pay the price sometimes for experimenting as to what I can and can’t eat – we’re all prone to mistakes like that, right? doesn’t help I’m allergic to eggs too – so diet is bloody important!!
Yes, the ‘doc’ from Atos took my blood pressure – I had warned it would be on the low side and lower on standing – proved right again! Her room wasn’t exactly a fridge but you could’ve proved a bloody loaf in there.
As for the whole bending your arm up your own back – yes, I can with the left hand, but NOT with the right… it’s all to do with the centre of pain on my right side as to why. Apparently, according to her, I can reach my back with both hands. Yes, she could see that stood ten feet or more away from me. HOW ABOUT UP CLOSE? obviously, too much effort for her to check by using her eyes rather than her imagination :-p
So, I failed the medical. I am in the process of appealling because I have to. My doctor has said she will continue to provide sickness certificates because I don’t know how long I’ll be waiting to go back into hospital – which I have been told will have plenty to do with anaesthetic and a couple of procedures.
No, the pain isn’t subsiding and to a point, it feels like the painkillers I’m on aren’t touching it. I’m also on Lansoprazole as a MUST because without that, I have no appetite at all and become fairly weak quite quickly.
I’ve also got a history of depression too, so, the phone call I got this morning from my councils housing dept asking where the rent is set me back on what had been a good day mentally.
I’m also doing a lot of sleeping lately – regular 2-4 hour naps on top of what sleep I get at night time. I’m surrounded by pillows in bed as it’s the only way to get comfortable – if anything touches my right side, I’m awake.
I have to go and make a claim for zero income at the housing office when they reopen at 2pm.
As the advice centre is at the same desk, I’ll enquire about the other too.
You’re right! the appeal form doesn’t give you much space to write down the issues – even in small tiny writing – some things need to be explained in detail! How the hell can everything be put there? it’s ridiculous!
As it stands, no, I don’t get out much, but I do visit my mother and a couple of other people all in this area – within a mile radius anyway and it depends on how I feel when I wake up as to what happens. I’d like to get out a lot more, but my health prevents me.
Sorry for waffling, but there are things on that stupid ATOS medical that aren’t even vaguely associated with day to day living.
I am affected badly. As too are countless others I know too.
I’ve spent some time reading the comments here and agree – the medical is a waste because the ‘one size fits all’ doesn’t really fit everyone.
I’ve had to shuffle several times and walk around while writing this out and take a painkiller.
Comment by AAF — March 19, 2012 @ 12:51 pm
Hello AAF.
One thing I will say to you is this, make sure you get some kind of medical report from your GP to support your appeal, and don’t forget to contact your local welfare rights office or CAB, you can get help here as well http://www.dwpexamination.org I believe you will win your appeal no problem, especially with that report and some help.
The appeal panel want to know how your illness affects your functional ability to work, so that’s what you need to concentrate on, and that means the descriptors that apply to you.
Comment by dwpexamination — March 19, 2012 @ 1:39 pm
I have had problems with Dwp for 7 years – i won a tribrunal in 2005 and had same problems in 2010 – now i am having the same problems! yet again i am ill at the moment and am struggerling to get the help i need – as i believe the Nhs have been told miss leading and false information by the Dwp about me so people that i try to get help from treat me very bad indeed. I have witnessed this over the years and NO for a fact when the social talk to people that try to help me as these people turn NASTY, all ov a sudden and i have proof. I believe LIARS!! get found out in the end, my MP does not like me using the word LIARS!! but that is also a fact that they are LIARS, AND FRAUDSTERS!! i have witnessed various documents being EDITED so now i copy EVERYTHING and keep EVERYTHING to prove my INNOCENCE. Last time i took them to a tribrunal it nearly killed me what they put me thro, i am in no fit shape to go thro it again – BUT i have to as i have been denied treatment as well as Benefits that i am entitled to – I WILL FIGHT to the end even if it does kill me, I am confident that i will win as the letters that i have kept from them do not make sense and there are alot of mistakes on the letters from them – SEE LIARS get found out in the end, I have ALWAYS told the TRUTH.
People say to me its not personal towards YOU….. it is a personal HATE campain against me i do not care what people say!. A TRIBRUNAL decision should be the end of it (it should stand)…. it does not and it does not make any difference at all. I have now been living off an overdraft, family for the past NINE months, i have NO life they have taken that away from me, I am see my MP soon and taking it to Parlimentry Obudsman! i will continue to fight even if it kills me, THEY HAVE TO CHANGE, i am not an animal I AM A HUMAN BEING.
Why are they allowed to make so many mistakes? And thats what people call them, i call these mistakes they make FRAUD!!, if me or you make one mistake on our claim forms its call FRAUD!! and thats another FACT.
They can not catch the REAL FRAUDSTERS so they PICK and Bully people like us on this PAGE…..
DO NOT LET THEM WIN – DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT, ABOVE ALL COPY AND SAVE EVERYTHING when dealing with these fraudsters that work at the DWP.
Comment by susan — March 21, 2012 @ 3:23 pm
ATOS discharged me from follow up post treatment for a brain tumour, my Neurosurgeon is furious! I’ve had an apology from ATOS and they have stated that they should have stated it differently!?!?!?!. I had a copy of a letter from my MP which he received from the district manager of Jobcentreplus this letter is full of pure discrimination! I had asked for my discharge letters but they have been unable to give them to me of course they do not exist!
I am currently awaiting an appointment with a further specialist due to possible damage caused to major structures surrounding the in operable tumour – I had Life saving Gamma Knife.
The Atos we’re changing our name to “Medical Services” doctor stated that I could do a great many things and actually made up a “typical” day for against DWP guidelines of the requirement to take into account fluctuations. Apparently the burnt marks on my hand left from “small” accidents in the kitchen means I can prepare and cook meals!
I am at present awaiting my tribunal
I too intend to keep up the fight cos this is FRAUD!
Comment by Pipit — March 22, 2012 @ 10:37 am
Hello pipit.
What they are doing to people is an absolute disgrace, good to see you are appealing, you do know they get a bonus for everyone they advise the DWP decision makers they find fit for work ?, please make sure you get help from welfare rights or the local CAB, you can get help here as well http://www.dwpexamination.org
Comment by dwpexamination — March 22, 2012 @ 11:01 am
Hello! My partner claims ESA and has had to appeal for the first 2 claims. For his most recent claim we were stunned to discover that he actually passed his medical (yes we were amazed) but as he was on contributions based ESA, his money will stop at the end of the month. However he is not allowed to claim the income based ESA as I work, I have a small handmade craft business which does not pay a lot, but I love it and get working tax credits and my working from home means I can care for him. But because I work over 24 hours a week he is not allowed to claim the money he is entitled to. Now we have to appeal the decision ESA have made to try and get him onto the support element of ESA. Failing that, we will have to hope that his plummet in income will at least increase the tax credits. I was particurally amazed when I spoke to one of the DWP staff who told me to quit my business and apply for job seekers so that my partner can claim ESA! My partner has severe spinal degeneration as result of working in heavy lifting for most of his adult life! Gotta laugh at the irony, hes passed but he cannie have it!
Comment by Cosmic V — April 13, 2012 @ 8:03 pm
Proof of the plan to condemn claimants to a time limited benefit to avoid the cost of an appeal. I take it you are appealing immediately and asking to be placed on the assessment rate.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 14, 2012 @ 7:44 am
Oh yes I fully intend to as soon as the weekend is over, I’ll fight them as long as it takes. I was told that to get him on the support group then we have to prove that he will never recover, as far as I know, no one recoverers from a degenerative spine, plus the nerve damage and muscle waistage hes suffered as a result. Im baffled how they can say he has passed, but cant get it anymore because of my business, especially as Im on low earnings myself and what I make does not in any way limit his entitlement to benefit!
It stinks!
Comment by Cosmic V — April 14, 2012 @ 1:33 pm
Of course it does and the general public are walking into a nightmare world where they are now voting their rights away, what will our kids do in the future? Spread the word about our fight, this blog and our sister forum, we need to help more than we are.
Comment by dwpexamination — April 14, 2012 @ 6:37 pm
I agree, Ive joined your forum too, people need to be made more aware of whats happening.
Ive tried to explain what is happening to a lot of people who just dont want to hear it, its easier to believe lies than wake up and accept whats really happening.
Comment by Cosmic V — April 16, 2012 @ 9:33 am
I agree with the poster above who said it is a personal attack. I feel exactly the same, people say don’t take it personally its not personal, but I will take it personal when the attack is on me and lies are being told so that my benefit can be stopped.
Comment by twinkletoe — May 8, 2012 @ 12:46 pm